Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 1)

It irritates me when people park really close to the front door of the gym.

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My conflict is that there are animals I want to eat that involve hunting, and I don’t want to hunt them.

I really want to try bear, for instance.

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Haven’t had bear meat.

Can attest that bear paw is nothing more than fat and collagen- nothing special. Might as well have braised cow skin or chicken feet

Bear gallbladder is just very very bitter.

I don’t either, but I thought my post might be a bit depressing / preachy.

I would like to think if the opposite was true (eating a happier animal was worse for me), that I would choose that option. The fact that it is probably healthier and the animal was happier is a win / win.

After some research it seems cattle live one of the better lives for livestock (both grass and grain finished). I have been eating more of that. From my research on pork, I am starting to feel a bit guilty eating it.

I would also like to understand how much more it actually costs to raise animals in a way that we think they are happy vs current.

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Pigs DEFINITELY know they are food, haha. Skittish creatures.

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Once COVID is over and I can go home and pick up my rifle, I will be so happy. I missed hunting this year.

There’s something so… incredible primal about seeing an animal, killing it yourself, then cleaning it, and eventually eating it.

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It definitely changes your perspective on food and animals in general. I both enjoy and dread various parts of the process. Last deer I shot I even had the hide tanned so I could make leather goods out of it.

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The only moral reservation I have against hunting is me doing it. I’m a bad shot. I’d wanna give an animal a clean death, vs winging it, letting it be terrified and having it bleed out somewhere.

It’s why I wanna sponsor a hunter. Or ride along and just drag the carcass back to the truck: put my skills to use, haha.

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I am a softy. I still feel a bit guilty about shooting a chipmunk as a kid (just a BB gun and it lived). There wasn’t a reason to shoot it. So hunting would probably be an embarrassing thing for me to do.

I actually think hunting is fine in many circumstances. I think it can reduce animal suffering if done properly. In my state deer starve to death if hunting numbers are down.

I have heard that bear hunting is often a problematic form of hunting since you basically bate them and shoot (this is how most do it at least in my state). Part of the issue is that if the bears are getting bate food while you aren’t there, you are training them to eat people food, and that generally makes them more dangerous.

I am not a fan of trophy hunting but if one is going to eat the kill or donate the food (as many hunters I know do) it’s all good. That’s why I like the show Meat Eater - everything he hunts/fishes etc he consumes. It’s the only hunting show I have seen that isn’t purely trophy hunting.

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If you’re sponsoring a hunt, I am in, lol. Also - you’re going to drag it - win, win.

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Such a despicable practice. Mounting the head of a deer or whatnot that you plan on eating, that’s one thing (as you mentioned). But just killing for a photo-op? Disgusting.

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I don’t have an issue with almost all hunting. Trophy hunting is silly IMO, and hunting rare animals is just a jackass thing to do.

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You have no idea how serious I am about that, haha. With how much meat I eat, if I could get a hunter to go halfsies with me on the kill I’d be in.

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I think you should look into endurance hunting. No shooting involved. You just chase a deer for miles until it lays down and you finish it with a knife or spear.

Although you did mention not wanting the animal terrified, so on second thought it might not be a good fit.

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My brother in law takes orders for tags for all of the different seasons for deer in 2 states. There’s the buck and doe seasons, then the different methods-bow, rifle, muzzle loaded, etc. so he stays busy all season.

Anyhow, if you know someone who hunts avidly ask them if you could make an arrangement-buy the tag, pay for dressing, etc.

My buddy called up the state trooper’s office, and is on a road kill notification list. They let him know when a deer or other game animal gets killed and is salvageable. He used to take a couple deer a year.

I think this is only really viable in the winter in a cold state, unless you are really fast so the meat doesn’t go bad.

I have eaten road kill deer. Tasted the same IMO.

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I bet it is tender

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LOL, he just basically scraps the hit areas. He tries to get stuff like the backstraps and roasts out of them.

Geez hope you had a lot of coffee… Oh and can you tell them to ride single file on the roads? It’s annoying when they are 3 abreast…

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