Make the base a can of mashed tomatoes and call it shakshouka
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I saw them run a blind-study on Netflix where they had two football teams drinking and eating. One got alcoholfree beer, the other beer with alcohol. The alchol consuming group consumed, on average â and this is just food consumption, not including liquid calories â 500 more calories.
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Yup, drinking definitely gives you more room for food, plus when you factor in that even a cheap, watery-ass bud light has 145 calories per beer and big guys can put down 12 of them without a problem, youâve got another 1740 calories right there.
I wonder how much of the general population is in an energy deficit during the work-week and make it up during a binger during the weekend
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Which general population? The American general population is in a surplus during the work week and an extreme surplus at the weekend. Thatâs why so many of us are enormous.
Iâd say most people trying to diet down and are convincing themselves that ânothing worksâ are doing what you describe, though. I mean, thatâs just a bud light. Some frozen cocktails are nearing 800 calories and people can knock several of them back, and then down it with some good olâ greased up âMurican burgers nâ fries. Now donât get me wrong, some drinks and some greased up food is second to none, but I wouldnât be surprised if some people were knocking back 4-5000 calories in a night while convincing themselves it wonât be enough to affect their progress. Man, if only everyone had been taught to monitor weekly calories, I think a lot more people would understand what theyâre doing. Then again, perhaps not.
People, for some reason, have it in their heads that liquid calories donât count. Theyâll live off a diet of carrots and celery, then drink a 4000 calorie coffee from Starbucks and wonder why they canât lose weight. Itâs crazy how brains work.
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No matter what, for people who are struggling to eat more, âliquid caloriesâ should always be a top 3 answer. Thatâs why itâs so funny that people donât count them.
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Good question. The âgeneralâ population that I observe, evidently.
We have this as part of our general education, early teens. Itâs a bit problematic, because this is an age when a lot of kids start developing disorders.
Now, with posters everywhere telling you to wash your hands (and how to wash your hands) I wonder what societal impact itâd have if we had posters saying âone drink is enoughâ (just making an example here). One consequence of the hand washing is a seasonal stomach bug we have went away completely this season. Zero cases. Can normally wipe out a significant portion of a classroom as it spreads. I mean, everyone recovers alright, it just sucks.
This might have come off slightly ass-holey. It wasnât meant to. Itâd really behove me to visit the US. Itâd help my understanding about a lot on these boards. Thatâs not to say my country doesnât have an obesity problem, we most assuredly do. However, cities tend to be filled with younger and fitter people and the 50% of the population that qualifies as obese is more likely to be found living at a distance outside of town. Not to mention there being some geographical variability to boot.
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Reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy at the gym a few weeks back. I normally shut up in these instances, and hardly ever give advice unless explicitly asked, but I have been talking with the guy for a few years now soâŠ
He hired a personal trainer, and heâs currently dieting down. Not that heâs fat. The diet consists of him having virtually no carbs the whole week, and then on Sunday lunch he has been given the instruction âeat all you want.â
Basically he was describing how the whole week is awful and he feels like shit, and then he stuffs himself on Sundays and he feels like shit. And apparently heâs not losing a bunch of weight? I mean, with a zero carb diet if youâre not losing weight youâre doing it wrong.
So I tell him, you know, you can totally undo half a weekâs worth caloric deficit if you eat unreasonably even at a single meal. The lady that works at our gym, who competes (admittedly has an impressive physique for a woman) and works with the guyâs PT walks past and lets out a âbullshit.â
The guy was also trying to argue that âthe diet worked like that and blah blah blah.â I excused myself out of the conversation and promised to myself Iâll never get engaged in that topic with them again.
But really, itâs amazing how many people donât get itâs a math game and calories donât âcount lessâ just because you eat them at a single meal.
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The whole â30g of protein in one sittingâ thing always blew my mind. âYouâll just poop out the rest: body canât absorb itâ
Man, if that was true, why are there fat people? Wanna eat all you want and not get fat? Eat all the steak you want.
Itâs weird the myths that perpetuate. Just like how if you eat after a certain hour it all turns to fat. Like your body knows what time it is.
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Iâm definitely guilty of this. Friday to Sunday evening I usually have at least one meal out, often more, and I usually go for the biggest meaty thing I can find, something like a double burger with toppings and fries then eat half what my girlfriend had too. At one point Iâd have a desert most times too and wonder why I would gain weight when eating relatively little through the week.
I remember for about a month basically only having mince, gravy and peas for dinner because I read it was bad to have carbs late in the day and I thought eating that would make me lose weight. However, I was eating crazy amounts every weekend and drinking a fair bit most of them too. I was living in a student house at the time and my old housemates still make jokes about that to this day, calling me pea boy, haha.
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The âit all turns to fatâ thing is silly, but your body definitely knows what time it is - circadian rhythm and all. Your body reacts differently to eating late at night and when youâre âsleepingâ your body is trying to produce the endogenous substances it makes at the opposite time that it normally would. There is evidence of adaptation to night shift (though I worked it straight for 2.5 years, 7pm-7am from anywhere to 4-7 days a week and saw none) but for rotating shift workers - and I gather youâre one of them - it can be really bad for you. There are a lot of really fascinating studies on night shift and rotating shifts in terms of lipid panels and other things you might not think of, but I donât know you to have ever eaten badly (outside of cheat meals), so I wouldnât be surprised if some of that had a tiny bit of an impact on your own stuff.
That being said, where I think the âall turns to fatâ thing comes from is that people usually eat absolute SHIT when theyâre on night shift and donât get up to move during the day. You have to work to adapt to night shift and some people canât get over that hurdle. When I think back on it, my weight gain and insomnia really only came on when I stopped exercising because I was getting more tired, but Iâm not willing to go back to night shift to find out, haha. Plus, my wife would either murder or divorce me if I opted to go back, so thereâs that.
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I more bring this up in the pedantic sense of the aforementioned night shift workers who sleep in the day and work at night. And for sure, they still have a circadian rhythm, but if you wake up at 2000 to start work at 2200 and youâre told âDonât eat after 1800 because it all turns to fatâ, itâs just goofiness.
My go to line about it is, if it were true, weâd solve world hunger by feeding starving children after 1800 and letting them get fat, haha.
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This made me think of a work Christmas party from 20 years ago. It was a sit down roast dinner with bowls of veggies and potatoes on the table to help yourself. After about two full plates of roast dinner someone asked me if I could eat all the potatoes, there would have been about 1kg (2lb) left in the bowl. I pulled the bowl over and slowly ate them one after the other. All the plates has been cleared and people had finished deserts and were on coffee and I was still going. Mate snapped a pic of me mid potato. Stomach hurt for 2 days after !! 
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Dem curtains thoâŠ
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Lol they are classy right !
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One of the biggest hurdles Iâve found for myself and others to losing weight is the âmicroâ cheat. The little biscuit every day, the 2 beers on a Wednesday night, the full fat coke on Thursday as all the diet stuff had gone, a dessert over dinner on Sunday.
I added up all my micro cheats in a week once. It was about 4000cals. Which sounds like a lot. But thatâs less than 600 a day which is like 4 cans of larger.
Its not enough to make or break a diet. But its enough to really slow it down. No progress - people give up.
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I recently reintroduced milk + protein powder to my eating days, now that I am getting pretty close to my goal weight of 160lb.
Probably ~600 calories worth.
Stopped my weight loss completely.
Honestly blew my mind.