I’m 28 6’1 and walk around at 215lbs w/ around 10% bodyfat.
Benching 315 for 5-6, rowing 315 for reps as well. I have a really solid base and plan on doing my first classic physique show next year.
I lift diligently 5-6x a week, and I am hitting my daily protein goal of approx 350g a day. Extremely consistent; My diet and training are bulletproof and there are no holes in my work ethic and or plan.
I’ve been on TRT (200mg) weekly of Test Cyp administered 3x a week for six months now accompanied by a pregnyl dose 2x a week subcutaneously. I put on around 10-12 solid solid pounds and my lifts improved. My physique is noticeably more impressive and I have not experienced any unwanted sides.
I was going to up my test to 400-500mg along with 200-250mg of Deca per week for ten weeks and continue my TRT protocol in conclusion.
Ive been told if It’s wiser to switch to Test Enanthate for my 10 week cycle and raise it to 400-500mg rather than continuing the Cyp as I will hold more unwanted water with the Cyp.
I have no problem switching to Enanthate if there are more benefits, but I’m inquiring as I have a lot of Cypionate still left. It’s what my body has been used to the last 6 months and I’m not sure if it’s worth changing or not.
Any advice, insight, or perspective is greatly appreciated
Testosterone esters matter much less than you think. Other that deca dose being so low im not sure it will do much for someone with your development, not much else to add.
I wouldn’t add a new compound and increase dosage on something you’re already running. Too many variables.
10 weeks isn’t very long for a blast of slow esters… you serum concentration won’t even ‘stabilize’ until around week 4-5. I’d recommend 16 weeks minimum for slower esters (this isn’t a ‘safer’ route, but more effective IMO).
Mess around with steroid plotter and see if you want to adjust your plan any.
Nandrolone has a tendency to make folks more estrogen sensitive (stronger reaction to changes in E, compared to when not on nandrolone). So bumping your test that high might give you some pretty rough issues with Estrogen, which can lead to Gyno or Deca Dick.
I’d actually recommend what I did/am doing. Find the lowest dose of Test you can run without encountering sides (about 80mg/wk for me) to supply ample estrogen and DHT (this is your “test base”). Then run your deca as high as you’d like (I went up to 600mg but a more intelligent number would be 400mg/wk).
This gave me zero deca dick issues. Libido is sky high, but it takes longer to bust FYI. Could also add in 5mg daily Cialis if it was a concern for you.
You’ll want to consider taking B6 or P5P daily to keep prolactin in check. I’m taking 250mg B6 daily.
I’m not sure how accurate this statement is.
Consider running NPP instead of Deca so you can bail faster if you encounter issues. Plus, everyone seems to like NPP more for some reason - don’t ask me why. Dosing could be more or less the same.
I appreciate the feedback.
I’m not sure it’d be wise to drop my test from 200-250 down to 80…
As far as NPP goes, I’ve gone a good amount of research and have spoken to a handful of people. I’m going to go the Deca route first as I’ve seen and have been told NPP is a harsher compound and there’s a higher probability of encountering prolactin issues on my first cycle.
NPP has a much shorter half life than Deca, but I don’t know if it’s necessarily ‘harsher’. The prolactin issues you might face on NPP could be resolved within a few days on it’s own due to the short half life, whereas the prolactin issues you could face with Deca will last for weeks. Pick your poison lol.
Either way, it sounds like you came here looking for a green light - not critiques. Good luck with your cycle.
I said that test esters dont matter much.
Well you see, deca and NPP is the same drug but a different ester. Its still nandrolone. Its either decanoate or phenylpropionate. Its the same as test prop or cyp or sust…
If you measured by equilibrium dialysis you would come back between 16 to 20 ng/dl. Very low probability you were hypogonadal to begin with. Like zero.
Good example of malpractice.
What is your measured peak/trough TT on 200 mg/week?
Exactly. I don’t really care one way or another what drugs a fellow forum member uses, but this bother me. It discredits the legitimacy of TRT in general. Some of us that are stuck on it for diagnosed hypogonadism still have to deal with the stigma that it’s a lifestyle choice rather than medicine.
I got a chuckle out of his statement. I’m guessing he’s got zero to limited stage time and is already talking “pro card”.
I wonder what percent of genuine medicinal use ends up going to lifestyle choice. From my personal interactions (skewed toward the gym world) it is reasonable percentage. Appears he just skipped to the front of the line haha. Just don’t call it TRT .
Doc, I gotta problem. I need to get my Pro Card soon. Hey probably as valid as some of clinical use of hormones in today’s world.
Looking forward to my non TRT shot tomorrow. Repent you muscle sinners.
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