[quote]seekonk wrote:
40 lbs in a year does not sound realistic, no, unless they mean fat. 10-15 lbs muscle mass a year might be more realistic for a beginning natural lifter, less for a non-beginner, unless again they mean fat (which is possible, judging from the pictures of many of the “just eat more” crowd). [/quote]
Please get the fuck out of here with this negative bullshit
LOL, well said, if thats you in your avatar, you should be giving the advice. Notice the loud mouths never have pics
Ya that’s me im nothing special but I only try to help, negative people just suck
Update:
I hadn’t maxed Squat and Deadllift in quite some time. Tried my 1RM’s in the past week and achieved these without a ton of difficulty so might have potential for more if I aim for it on that day.
squat-325
deadlift-330
Goodstuff, in all honesty, if you want to run the test, go nuts, but if you get a little more out of your natural training first, you will then get more out of your cycle latter, not to say you couldnt run another cycle latter :) Anyway I personaly would use it as a reward system, set a goal for yourself, and say when I get here Ill run the test.
I know 531 has been overplayed here it seems, but in your case I think it would teach you tons about, exercise selection, and progressive overload. mabey try 531, and set a goal of 400lb squat-450dead and reward yourself with the test at this point, if you think you still need it.This shouldn`t take more than a year from where you are. Anyway, thats my 2 cents, Goodluck
Thanks bro I appreciate all the input I’m going to make a post of my new diet I plan on sticking to in that section soon. Interested in getting more feedback on the updated higher calorie diet. In addition, I’ll continue another rotation of the 5/3/1 and see where I’m at afterwards. I had to use a less than satisfactory gym for the past month because of moving. Thanks again.
Remeber the guy that can squat 600lbs, can diet down and see his abs any time he wants, but the guy that worries about his abs, will never squat 600lbs
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
Sorry I was in a rush yesterday, and was trying to get the point across That you had some really experianced posters, all basicaly saying the same thing, and you were getting deffensive. My point was with 2-3 yrs of hard training you should be in a better place, and the reasons why your not there need to be adressed before you jump to test.
Once you have training and diet in order, you will be able to reap much more from a cycle. If your goals are size and strength i would loosen up my diet, your diet looks good for a competative BBer, but when your trying to get big and strong, calories are king, and lean chicken , and fish don’t cut it.
Right now I’m in a gaining phaze, so i added a pound of ground beef + 4 cups of rice a day to my regular diet. This already includes dozen eggs - bag frozen mixed veg - 200g oatmeal - 3 litters milk - full size lunch - full size dinner. lunch is usually a 12’'sub, and dinner is roast and potatoes, or such. On days i work out I eat 2 peanut butter, banna, and honey sandwich (500 calories each) one before workout, and one after.
This is around 5000 total calories, and would be ecsessive for you, but gives you an idea of what it takes to get your body to grow.
Realize once you start using gear, you’ll be using for life, or as long as you workout. This isn’t up for debate, you may think you’ll do one cycle to get past plateau, but thats what everyone thinks. The best practice is to get as big and strong as you can, know your body, have training and diet that maxamizes gains for you.
Then use the gear to gain an edge, this will work well. Trying to use gear to fill in the holes, won’t work, you might, and thats a big might gain a littlle size from the cycle you planned, but with out fixing everything else. You’ll quickly end up right back where you were.
I say hold off on gear for atleast 6-12mths. Up calories to 3500-4500, get on a basic program, prioritizing strength (531) and work on the basics, get them mastered. I would aim for 200lb body weight, at 15ish % BF and a double body weight squat and dead, then think about the gear. This is easily attainable in a year from where you are now, with consistant effort or take the easy way out, and stay skinney and weak.
Sorry to be harsh, this is the reality, The big guys around here are all going to all give similar advice, but you’ll probably find some skinney kids that will tell you there’s a different way, whatever. goodluck[/quote]
This is good advise. It’s refreshing to see some real constructive criticism without being an asshole.