First Cycle, Seeking Advice

What? I can’t see the need specifically for sugar. Maybe carbs.

It can also turn fat if it gets into ketosis. Not recommending that diet for anyone looking to be strong or muscular.

I was using sugar and carbs interchangeably. It all breaks down into the same stuff in the body anyway. Fructose is a little different however you don’t find fructose by itself in nature.

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My last cycle with Test and NPP, I ate a bowl of cinnamon toast crunch damn near every night and it wasn’t detrimental to my body composition or my gym performance and I actually put on quite a bit of lean tissue.

I know this makes me a hypocrite based on my earlier posts, I probably could’ve and should’ve used fruit sources for the extra sugar… but dammit I’m a life long fat kid up until about 1 year ago. And my cravings still get the best of me sometimes.

This cycle with tren I am actually just using dextrose and fructose with 100% pure cranberry juice in the same capacity in which I used the cereal on my last cycle. So a little less hypocritical this time around

I ate huge bowls of cocoa or fruity pebbles when on tren. My blood sugar would randomly drop and that was the easiest (and most delicious) way to stop the shakes.

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Cereal FTMFW

And? Fat is pretty useful. Not from a candy bar, ideally, but in principle there’s nothing wrong with fat.

Sure it’s just that someone will often say, “don’t eat that donut, it’s full of sugar” and forget about the part where it’s 50 percent fat. Get 1 gram of protein per Kilo of weight, get at least 200 grams of sugar/carbs(120 of those are freebies because they’re used by the brain every day) and fill the rest of your calories in with fat/carbs depending on your preferences.

I would be 400lbs. I’m struggling to cut on 150c. Some of us just cannot handle higher carb diets even though it’s very satisfying. I wish I could eat that way, man. I’d stop hating food and start enjoying life again.

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That sucks. Maybe post up your macros for people to look at. Remember, carbs must be converted to fat and will do so only when glycogen stores are full. In addition, the brain uses 120 grams a day and you have cells that can only use glucose. I would guess you’re too high on the protein and fats. A good cutting diet is around 2,000 calories a day and I would split that up like this- 250c/75p/75f. Bet you’d lose about 2 pounds a fat a week if you are working out 3 or 4 times a week and doing 10,000 steps a day.

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This would explain the pretty bad brain fog I’ve been having from my low carb diet lol definitely not getting 120g a day. Might need to add a cup of white rice daily

When dieting you always have to keep in mind the forbidden zone from 50-150g of carbs. If you are in there you feel like shit. If you are under, you are Keto, if over you are low fat, but in between is bad because of the amount of sugar the brain then needs but doesn’t get.

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175p/150c/55f ~1,800cal

I haven’t been hitting that this week because I honestly don’t care at this point. If I get too wrapped up in it I turn into a total jerk and I don’t have the lifestyle that affords that particular characteristic. But prior to this week I was pretty good about hitting that range and the scale never moved after the initial first month. Unless I’ve starved myself I never have an easy time losing weight. I can put it on easily, but once it’s here it never comes off. My body fat is the Olive Garden, when it’s here it’s family.

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Yea I had no idea of this

We’re not disagreeing. If you don’t want to live the rest of your life on 30 grams of carbs per day or less, you’re going to need about 200 grams of carbs per day. 120 of those are literally just your brain’s needs and are used up daily. Nobody can get fat eating 250 grams of carbs a day as long as your protein and fat calories are in check.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22436/#:~:text=The%20brain%20lacks%20fuel%20stores,body%20in%20the%20resting%20state.

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Just a suggestion and it seems like it would better fit your desires anyway. Add 100 grams of carbs and subtract 100 grams of protein. Bet the weight starts dropping off quickly.

That feels like too little protein though. I imagine muscle growth or even retention would be difficult at that level, no? And ftr I’m not being argumentative or anything. I’m genuinely interested in your perspective here.

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Well you’re on an aggressive cut at only 1800 calories so there might be some muscle loss. You’d have to play around with the number.

But in a non-keto state, your body requires that 200 grams of carbs a day and it will get it from the protein you’re eating if it has to. So, some of the protein you’re eating might just be expensive glucose.

If you’re worried about it, I’d up the calories to 2000 with the extra 200 coming from protein so that would get you to 125 grams. Your macros would be 250c/125p/55f.

Resistance train 3 times a week to maintain muscle and walk 10,000 steps a day to burn body fat. My guess is you’d lose around 2 pounds a fat a week if you do that.

Yeah I think the in-between area is the worst. Either go full-on Keto or make sure you’re getting that 200 grams of carbs.

The reason I pick 200 is that is the magic number studies have shown produce normal glucose tolerance. There are many others but this is one of my favorites. Apparently, Sweeney produced another study that I can’t find where as long as the person ate 200 grams of carbs his blood glucose response was normal even when fat intake was high. In other words, it isn’t the added fat that produces those terrible blood glucose numbers but the absence of enough carbs.

https://sci-hub.se/10.1001/archinte.1927.00130120077005

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I’m already doing 5x plus cardio, so that’s covered. But I’ll tell you what, I’ve been doing it ‘my way’ for two months and it’s been getting me fuck-all results. I’ll give your way a shot because it’s worth it to listen to other people. Thanks for your patience, man.

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