Then you’re not eating at a large caloric surplus. Simple as that. Add more food and you won’t be disappointed.
Ok, but things are going to get ugly. I can’t eat anymore clean carbs than I already am because of all the fiber. I can’t sit through one sitcom without rushing to the hallway to let out all the piled up gas in my colon. The wife isn’t too thrilled either. I think more bacon and peanut butter on top of what I’ve been eating should do the trick.
What is your carb source? A clean carb source shouldn’t cause this
Beans, barley, oats, potatoes, buckwheat, some brown rice being the main sources. Then you have your fruit - mostly apples, plums, pears and dates
beans, barley, oats, buckwheat and brown rice can all cause gastrointestinal issues, mostly gut inflammation, which sounds like exactly what you’re experiencing. If you want to experiment a little bit, I would drop all of those things, or at least cut them in half, and replace them with potatoes, sweet potatoes, and white rice (type doesn’t matter, just make sure it is white).
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My God, if I was on that diet I would be dead within a week. That’s just one giant inflammatory cancerous mess. No wonder you feel like you can’t eat any more. Get more calories from fat, man. Fat has nine calories per gram, significantly more than carbs or protein. You can easily bump calories by another 300 with one avocado and two more eggs every day.
PS none of the things you listed are clean carbs. Cruciferous vegetables are actually clean, but nobody can bulk on broccoli, so we add starches and hope that they don’t do too much damage along the way. The last ones, the fruits, are just sugar. You’re better off getting the satisfaction of eating a Snickers bar vs apples and dates, because they’re functionally the same thing as far as your body is concerned.
This is such a silly argument I hear repeated over and over. Anyone that believe a snickers bar (or any man made shit filled candy) is the equivalent of fruit or pure fruit juice is off their rocker. Fructose reacts differently in your body and gives far different hormonal responses than HFCS or whatever other fake stuff is in donuts or candy bars or whatever else.
Fructose has a place in your diet, whether it is replenishing glycogen stores or getting that pre-workout sugar kick, whereas the combination of carbs and fat you find in “junk food” (IIRC) signals your hormones for fat storage, not energy burning, and promotes lethargy.
EDIT: if he’s eating some sort of “candied” fruit, yea it’s just candy. but if he is eating fresh fruit, it’s sugar content can be beneficial to health.
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I agree here. Many people don’t understand that the difference in nutrition between something like white and brown rice is miniscule, but the brown rice will cause digestion issues in many people (including gas).
Op, one thing you can do is just add another meal in. Put it where you are typically hungry (for me it would be between breakfast and lunch). Then just eat the amounts (with the changes to make digestion easier) you have been eating. My next bulk blast, this is what I will do. I’ve been thinking a bagel with cream cheese around 9:30 at work would be a good starting place for me.
Your liver can’t tell the difference between the various forms of sugar. Inflammation is inflammation, irrespective of the cause. And as someone who very much likes sugar in various things it pains me to say that. I couldn’t eat Greek yogurt without it being sweetened by something, and I very much enjoy it. But I also know that it’s not as good for me as it would be without the sugar.
This sounds like a different statement than the first one you made. Also, I am not speaking specifically about liver processing of carbohydrates (and I don’t really know much about it) but your body, as a whole, does process different types of sugar in different ways. I think a perfect, easily relatable example of this is lactose intolerance. Lactose (milk sugar) is very poorly processed by a “not insignificant” portion of the population. This isn’t entirely relevant other than to say, this is proof that different sugars are processed differently in the body. If they were all process the same, you wouldn’t have lactose intolerant individuals, they would all just be sugar intolerant (intolerant to all of the “-ose’s”).
The original purpose of my question about carb sources was to help OP determine his issues with digestion/gut health, and I believe it is very obvious why he is having problems digesting his carbs. With that said, is it possible the sugar from the various fruits is causing his issues? Maybe, but highly unlikely.
But to compare fresh fruit to candy bars is inane. And it is an argument I hear often, but less often than I used to.
The fruit is healthier in general. However, if the goal is to gain weight, fruit is much less calorie dense than the candy bar. I still probably won’t be eating a lot of candy bars on a bulk as I think I would get power belly gains mostly.
I think fruit is a good option to include in diets where the goal is losing / maintaining weight (it’s likely not going to hurt on a bulk either). How many people really fat eating too much fruit? One of my observations is that people who eat a lot of fruit and vegetables generally are fairly fit. I don’t think avoiding fruit because of sugar is logical. Most fruit is still not very calorie dense.
Maybe I am misunderstanding this whole thing or taking it out of context, but I can’t count the number of times I hear fruits/fruit juice compared to cake or candy or whatever other junk food with regards to them being unhealthy or making you fat.
You have, on the other hand, taken more or less the opposite stance, saying they are healthy and won’t help much with weight gain, a statement with which I agree.
The way I read @iron_yuppie comment was the former, not the latter. Maybe I misunderstood, but that drives me crazy when I hear that comparison.
The other day a good friend of mine and my brother were talking. My brother was eating a banana and my buddy said “you might as well be eating that cooking sitting right next to you instead”. Neither of them are much into fitness/clean eating so I just shook my head and walked away because I knew any reasoning with them would’ve fallen on deaf ears.
A candy bar is more calorie dense than most (all?) fruit. A candy bar is better for gaining weight than fruit, but is less healthy in almost every aspect. The fruit has vitamins, minerals, fiber, and a lot of water in it.
I think the candy bar / ice cream during a bulk thing may be an okay idea for some people that have trouble gaining weight (not for me though, I would end up a tub of lard).
The reality of it is most want to lose weight, the next most want to maintain, and the smallest group wants to gain. For the vast majority fruit fits in better with their goals than candy bars.
May i introduce you to my friend Mr. Avocado
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You and me both. I have zero trouble gaining weight, fat or muscle.
What I am more specifically referring to is the hormonal response one gets from eating certain foods. The food you eat gives your body instructions for certain hormones to be released (more than just sex hormones) and in turn determines how your body will utilize the fats and carbs that you are eating. Not all carbs/fats/proteins are created equal, and not all calories are created equal. Most people look at it in a black and white perspective (calories in calories out) because they do not understand the nuance of nutrition (I don’t either, or at least not as in depth as I would like) but I know there is a lot more to it than how many calories or what kind of macro it is.
Anyway…I’ll go easier on the horse feed, eat more spaghetti and have the occasional Snickers bar.
I’ve 4 good weeks left where I’ll have supraphysiological levels of test in my system and I decided to eat pretty much whatever I feel like without going too crazy. It’ll be something between a clean and dirty bulk. Or can a clean bulk include cake?
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Looks like you grasped it all 
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I’ve tried a clean cut with cake and, um, it doesn’t work.
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What? Your body needs 200 grams of sugar per day. If it doesn’t get that sugar from food, it will literally turn protein into sugar and, failing that, will break down muscle to get it.
Candy bars are full of fat. If you want to grow, eat lots of fruity pebbles. Your muscles can store hundreds of grams of sugar as glycogen. Your liver will store another 100 grams and go through that in a day.