Just my opinion here, but I think you’re better off with a SERM like Nolvadex. Prevents gyno but still allows the other benefits of estrogen to work in your body.
Yeah, I was on the fence between one or the other. I decided on the AI because of the other symptoms that accompanied the puffy itchy nipples (bloating, puffy face, bitchy mood, lethargy). Can Nolva be a remedy for those other symptoms as well besides binding to E receptors in the tits?
While we are on the subject, I saw several people mention Nolva solving other high E2 issues besides incoming gyno. What are those other issues that Nolva solves?
I’m not really an expert on Nolva, I just know that killing E2 is not a good idea when we can block the receptor sites where E2 can cause us the most harm. Estrogen in all its forms are needed for bone and muscle growth, libido and erection quality to name a few.
Here is a search for nolva that may give you more info.
https://t-nation.com/search?q=nolvadex
The problem is that Nolva doesn’t block all the E2 receptor sites. It’s tissue specific and acts as and antagonist in breast (good when you have gyno) and in the pituitary/hypothalamus but is a agonist in other tissues, for example liver and bone.
He did the right thing
PIN # 11-14
Today was the first day I attempted to wear a dress shirt since the start of this cycle. My shirts no longer fit. I can squeeze into them but look completely retarded. I’m afraid to flex my arm because I’ll rip right through the fabric. I need a new wardrobe for my upper body. The last bulking cycle required a new wardrobe from the waist down, so this is a welcome change I suppose.
I’m gonna get bloods this Friday to see where my levels are at.
All in all, testosterone is not a magic solution to an elevated state of mind, which is a bit of a letdown since I, like most people had unrealistic expectations. It does however boost one’s confidence level. And the morning boners are starting to get ‘out of hand’, so to speak.
Grasp it harder 
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PIN #15, 16
Lifts are starting to stall a bit so I need to fine tune my programming some more.
Blood work is in!
SHBG 35,4 nmol/L (reference 16,5 - 55,9)
FSH < 0,1 IU/L (reference 1,5-12,4)
LH < 0,1 IU/L (reference 1,7-8,6)
E2 138 pg/ml (reference 11,3-43,2)
Total T >15 ng/ml (reference 2,49-8,36)
Free T >2,62% (reference 1,53 - 2,88)
From the looks of it, my gear is legit.
My total T is undetermined, but is definitely over double the highest number in the reference range. The same goes for my free T. I would’ve preferred to have an actual number but it is what it is, it’s laboratory standards. FSH and LH are non-existent, as expected.
My E2 is over 3x the top of the reference range number, which is a bit worrisome. I realize it’s expected for E2 to be double the top reference range, but maybe this seems to be a bit excessive.
Finally, my SHBG, the bastard that drove me to drug use, remains on the higher end of the spectrum. I was certain it would be much lower, but the asshole doesn’t want to go down. I can only imagine it returning with a vengeance once I seize with the exogenous test.
Even though there isn’t a defined number for my free test, is there anyway to guesstimate a ballpark figure in relation with my E2 being over 3x the top reference number?
I’d love any and all input on the above from anyone that wants to comment. @blshaw @lordgains I think you both commented on my original SHBG numbers so if you have any thoughts on the new blood work, I’d love to hear them.
You might want to consider some Nolva for the E2.
How did you go about determining this?
Don’t worry unless there are symptoms.
IMO, this is a good number. Something many don’t consider is SHBG will allow the Test to stay in your system longer.
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Hair-splitter 
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Reference range is 2,49-8,36.
8.36 x 2 = 16.72
If they valued my total test at over 15 (>15) I can only assume it could be above 16.72. It could be between >15 and 16.72 for all I know. It could be much more but…well…I just don’t know now and there’s nothing to convince me otherwise. Thanks for killing my positive misinterpretation of my lab results and with that my pre-workout mental pump @mnben87
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I was just giving you a bit of ribbing over the use of the word “definitely” LOL. I think based on your E2, that you are likely right.
Do you have other labs with TT, FT and E2. You can make a educated guess using those labs on what your TT is using ratios.
If it makes you feel better, at one point earlier today you believed something that you were not justified in believing. You now are more correct than before. Take it as a win.
Take a deload week if you need one. It’ll help you more in the long run.
Just FSH, LH and SHBG this time around.
I don’t think nolva will help lower my E2 and my tits feel fine at the moment.
I missed my deadlift again today so I think I’ll do just that. Maybe focus more on volume to take advantage of the enhanced recovery.
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Sometimes delusion is a blessing. Especially when thinking your T levels are enormous!
Ok, so I’m entering week 10 tomorrow and so far it’s been a smooth ride. I started taking 30mg of Tbol and am looking forward to seeing what effects that’ll bring.
Here’s my predicament:
Do I continue with the intended 12 weeks of test injections or extend it to 15 weeks?
So far I’ve gained 18lb in body weight
Added for reps:
60lb to my deadlift
40lb to my bench
32lb to my press
If I stick with the original plan I will have 3 more weeks of pinning, plus 3 weeks of Tbol, before entering PCT.
If I were to extend to 15 weeks, that would be 6 more weeks of pinning test + the Tbol, followed by 3 more weeks of nothing and then PCT.
I feel the progress has been good strength-wise, nit so much appearance-wise. But that’s subjective I guess and mostly related to not being able to see my abs in all their glory. Maybe once I lose some water weight post cycle, this may change as well.
Otherwise, I feel I may have hit a wall concerning progress and I’m starting to stall on the main lifts.
What do I do?
I’d do as intended then. It’s a well known phenomenon that during cycling progress at some point stalls (after a reasonable amount of time). That’s the indicator to end it then.
Also your progress strength wise is tremendous and nearly must translate to more muscle. I’d bet it’s your perception that’s fooling you.
Thanks, I think I’ll end it at week 12 like I initially planned. I noticed I’ve been having a tough time gaining weight the past two weeks even though I’ve been eating at a large caloric surplus. The scale hasn’t budged and I’m usually the type that gains 5 pounds just by walking down the junk food aisle at the supermarket.
I think I’m going to have to resort to the nuclear option and reach for the peanut butter…