First Cycle Running Test E, Dbol, and Equipoise

Definitely.

This is a case where I like to sit back and watch the show. He’s been warned and still proceeded. He’s happy with his results, so IMO who gives a shit at this point what others think. He’s not a kid, sure sounds like he’s made a lot of other questionable decisions in life, but hey it’s his life to live.

Maybe he gets jacked beyond belief? Time will tell. It’s certainly a harsh run on the body but again, he was warned. Popcorn time!

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Just to illustrate why visible abs is a murky goal, take a look at Eddie Hall.

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This meets your definition. However, it is not what I’d want my mid-section to look like. His waist at navel is probably over 45".

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Really… ?
What do Eddie Hall and OP have in common?

I am going to start with 250mg of Tren Ace 50mg M W F Sa Su if I take well to it I will up it to 50 mgs everyday

Nothing in particular. I’m just saying that visible abs can mean different things. I’ve had visible abs at 215, but they were not to my liking. It would have been a mistake to think I was very lean, or jacked. Certain lighting made me look good if I flexed them, but candid photos told a different story.

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Really bad idea.

Just because you can get gear doesn’t mean you should take gear.

This is a dumb fucking idea.

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I respect your opinion but I will continue to take gear

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Man I’m down to 205 I think I’m going to get below 200

I have literally lost 15 lbs in the last week

@Frank.N.Stien
Throw up some pics. If you haven’t mentioned already what does your training and diet consist of?
15lbs in a week is a lot to lose mid cut.

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4char

I wish I know but the scale doesn’t lie

Monday and Thursday
Chest and triceps
Tuesdays and Friday
Back and Bis
Wednesdays and Saturday
Shoulders and legs

First one I go heavy the second I go for reps and contraction
I’m eating around 250 grams of protein and 3 to 4000 calories a day I’m eating no sugar or processed foods I haven’t been hitting my calorie goals vary often over the past few week to be 100% honest

Can you elaborate a bit? Which exercises, sets and reps, how do you progress week to week, roughly how many reps in reserve do you typically have on a set?

It doesn’t have to be for every exercise you do, but I think it is a good idea to have a few exercises you make progress on.

I’ll use my own workout that I’ll be doing tonight as an example.

Start with incline treadmill. 3 MPH, at least 8 incline, 20 minutes with a 5 minute cool down.

Incline bench 4 sets, 4:30 rest between sets. 205x10, 225x5, 240x3, 205 AMRAP. Last week I did these for 200, 220 and 235.

Weighted chin ups, 3 sets for 7 reps, 4:30 rest between. 30, 40, 50 lbs. Last week I did 25, 35, 45 lbs. Once I get to 50 lbs (today), next time I do 25,30,and 35 at 8 reps. Once I get closer to the 50 lb reset, I spread the weight jumps a bit. I do this with incline as well (more so based on difficulty).

Shoulder press machine, 3 sets, 2:30 minutes rest between. I am starting to get fatigued, so I just try to do each set with 2 RIR (reps in reserve). I should be tracking and trying to improve this lift a bit more than I have been.

Chest supported row, 3 sets, 2:30 minutes rest between. Same approach as with the shoulder press machine. Again I should be tracking this better.

Finish with 3 sets of Biceps and 3 sets of Triceps, each with 1:30 rest. These I just try to go hard. By the 3rd set, I am gassed, and usually finish each lift with a drop set to failure (so 4 total sets). I start the first set with 2 RIR, second I try to match the reps (but usually can’t), third set is a several reps less.

You can see that I am mostly focused on improving the incline and weighted chin. Those are big bang for the buck exercises. Improvement on those long term I believe will drive growth and strength. It’s why I track them more than the other lifts.

I get home and have a protein shake, take the dogs on a walk (40 minutes), then play drums (kinda exercise), shower and make and eat dinner and then finally relax.

This is about as unstructured as my training has been. I’ve worked with a coach and followed programs in the past. Probably a bit more optimal that way, but I think being able to lift more (weight or more reps) over time is the key.

For chest I do 4 sets to failure of dumbbell press incline dumbbell press inclined bench press bench press flies both High mid and low and the peck deck for triceps I do overhead pull Downs I do Straight pull Downs with the rope and with the angled V bar all these everything I do for sets to failure I also will do the tricep extension machine and the dip machine for shoulders I do overhead press I also do cable lateral raises Arnold press for biceps curl bar curls dumbbell curls single hammer curls for back I do lat pulldowns seated single arm rows and single arm pull downs and all the lat machines and back extensions or dead lifts for legs I do seated leg press both front and back leg extensions and squats for abs I will use most of the machines then a decline sit up with a 50lb weight or a 45lb plate

Are you able to progress week to week? It doesn’t have to be a weight jump each week (although it can be, and what I aim for when blasting AAS), it can be just doing an extra rep with the same weight on one of the four sets.

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so you do 7 exercises, 4 sets each, all to failure?

I do 2 exercises, 2 sets each, to failure for each muscle on any given day… Why do I get the impression that your failure rep, and my failure rep, look unrecognizeably different?

Some weeks it goes up some weeks it stays the same

I don’t know to me failure means I can’t budge the weight and I will usually take a few second break then try to crank out two more

I’m sorry I don’t do all of those in the same day I only do 4 exercise a
day

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