Thank you I’m very dedicated improving my heath
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checking in on you.
how did you decide to move forward? you still making good progress?
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Not to be an asshole but the most mass is on the stomach, no matter the progress in some other muscles and i wouldnt recomend doing test, dbol and eq for bulking when half your weight hangs over your pants already.
If your goal is bodybuilding, then no one ever will care about some fat biceps measurement, if the midsection could use good 24 weeks of a serious cutting.
The weight increase at your age is hard on the body and if you want to be healthy, you should first make some room for muscle. Just bulking on top of what already looks like 10 years of bulking is an overkill.
Its harder for you to carry more weight and honestly, all the attention is on the stomach. Yes you have bigger arms now, but thats not really a big whoop cuz everyone who knows anything can tell that when you lean out enough that you will have abs, there will be no arms left anyways. I mean bigger arms on a fat guy is like big boobs on a fat girl. No one cares.
Im not trying to offend you - im trying to give you the bodybuilding perspective. In order to gain the most from training and all this lifestyle you need to first eliminate the thing that takes away the most from your look.
You would look twice as good with 0 biceps but a skinny ripped stomach and that can be accomplished on TRT.
Even if you skip this step, you will still lose almost all the muscle if you ever decide to stop being fat because the amount of time on a deficit and the hours a week you will spend doing cardio, will burn away everything anyways, so there is really no point to just shortly rent some bloat muscle(bloatscle…)
On dbol, the most size is not actual tissue anyways. You will piss it out in 1 night as soon as you stop eating 12 big macs a day.
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I only eat grass fed grass finished beef and I don’t eat any seed oils or processed foods I haven’t eaten a big Mac in over 10 years LoL
This is so important if looking good is your goal.
I am fairly lean, but have dedicated more of my training time to being leaner. Losing fat is the best bang for the training / diet buck if looking good is the goal.
I know you are not a fan of the guys who just walk for “cardio”, but it can work. I average around 45 minutes a day. most of it in the neighborhood, and about 80 minutes a week on a treadmill at an incline. It has improved BP, heart rate, and has trimmed me down without impacting the lifts much.
I think you are placing too much importance on these “small” details. How many calories you’re eating is by far the most important thing regarding being jacked. You also need some protein, but I also think a lot of guys shoot themselves in the foot trying to get 200 grams or whatever, because doing so results in them perma bulking. Get the right amount of calories and 120-150 grams of protein and you are 80% there regarding looking good.
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checking in on you. you still making good progress?
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Yes sir I am I’m done with my Dbol now I’m just doing EQ and Test and I’m going to finish with 4 weeks of Anavar
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When i said big macs i ment - fat food… I dont think it matters what the animal ate when it was alive - if a meat has many calories, just the fact that the animal ate something different before it died, doesnt change the amount of calories.
This might shock you but one can actually get fat eating rice, and one can get shredded eating big macs. I actually do eat Big Macs and i have had a full sixpack all the time. The point is - problem is not in where the calories come from but in the calories.
With u being in that shape i take it your artheries are also prone to clogging and doing stuff like EQ enhances that risk 10 times. Your blood is basically pure fat as it is from all the “grassfed beef” and now you also thicken it up with RBCs.
Its just pretty risky. Again, i am not trying to make u feel bad, im just saying - you are putting yourself in unnecessary risk for a bulk that is the last thing you need if you care for “bodybuilding”.
No, i am a fan. And it definetly works. 10k steps a day definetly helps also.
I am not a fan when people dont want to train their cardio and improve it, but the fact that walking a treadmill does wonders for fatloss is sure as hell. And also, walking is great when you just start cardio.
Im just saying that if we wouldnt settle for benching same weight for years, why do many people settle for cardio being same level and same speed for years.
I agree with this alot. I also get around 120g a day on most days and i havent seen the difference between me eating 200g. And yea, if eating super fat meats put you in a surplus by getting in extra protein, its definetly a waste. Beef is a horrible choice for cutting imo. But the guy doesnt really wanna cut, he is bulking for some more fatceps(biceps that look big because the person is fat) and needs steroids to do so.
What a horrible waste of Anavar. Anavar works when you are in very low bodyfat %. What you will gain from a large dose of Var in your case is just a weaker dbol effect that costs three times as much for the same dose. You can just aswell not finish with anavar and just finish with 10mgs of dbol for the last 4 weeks.
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I find the typical American diet with a few modifications to actually not be too bad for bodybuilding. If you get rid of the worst elements, stuff nobody should eat, then it isn’t terrible and modifying portion sizes can work pretty well (I think because it has a lot of protein). Modification really only involves getting rid of junk food (sugar drinks, deserts, fried food, things in the snack isle).
Stan Efferding once said something like if you eat like you’re a farm boy, you won’t be too far off. It won’t get you to the Olympia stage probably, but I am not worried about that haha.
I think of it as specializing in strength while maintaining a baseline of cardio.
I tried to be a lifter and runner, I’ve tried being a lifter and a mountain biker. I didn’t make much progress lifting. I did make progress on the running and biking though. Probably because I was worse at those things.
I am more naturally inclined to be an endurance athlete. I just don’t like it as much. When I was a runner, my running buddies were frustrated at how fast I got in a short period of time.
I think it is one of those things that is better to do, but not as big of a deal as a lot of people make it out to be.
I agree. I just think that whats “baseline” for those people is below the standards. And also, the bigger you get, the higher your baseline should be. Its like you want to have this racecar, but your baseline for engine is from an electro-scooter. And while you cram on more parts on the racecar, you are only interested for the engine to remain to be able to be like the scooter was. Sooner or later the engine either wont be able to move the body or it will break down in a process(what happens to bodybuilders alot nowdays).
You have to upgrade the engine if you put on more and more fancy car stuff on the frame.
And i have been there and i am still kind of there. When i quit high intensity work to focus on my bulk - i havent been able to come back ever since. My cardio abilities have dropped 60% and in some cases even more.
What i could run for 20mins, now i can barelly do 3, and i am doing the cardio… And if what i have now, is a “good cardio” for most lifters then fuck me man, its horrible. I feel like an invalid now but for most people thats called intense cardio.
There also is this thing about just walking, that when you are having a heart attack, your heart is in super high HR. So you being able to tolerate 130bpm does nothing for you surviving an attack of 220… Thats why higher intensities are needed for your heart to be able to be healthy. Its like doing 20rep maxes all the time and then without a warmup go for 1rm. One will probably snap all his shit. And thats what happens to a heart.
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Coming from a fighter this makes perfect sense. For most people it makes perfect sense. For a powerlifter though, many see it as less strength, which is all that matters in their sport. For a bodybuilder, if walking can burn the fat off, and they can train with weights harder, they can holder more muscle at the same leanness as if they did higher intensity cardio, that’s what makes sense to do.
Since I am not really powerlifting anymore, I should switch things up to be more well rounded. Move my baseline up a bit.
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Good point. Having that extra capacity helped me most likely survive ventricular tachycardia (220-240 bpm) while in AFIB. Watch and look out for your sinoatrial node.
HIIT + AAS may be asking for trouble.
Myocardial fibrosis or scar is characterized by the accumulation of collagen in the extracellular matrix as a result of myocardial damage from a range of pathologies. The patterns of fibrosis can be broadly classified as reactive or replacement fibrosis.1 Reactive fibrosis is characterized by the synthesis of collagen by myocytes in response to cardiac stress from aging, pressure or volume overload, reactive oxygen species, or the renin-angiotensin aldosterone system and beta-adrenergic system. In replacement fibrosis, myocytes damaged by ischemia or viral infection are replaced by collagen. Reactive fibrosis may progress to replacement fibrosis.1 Replacement fibrosis can be localized as in myocardial infarction or can be more diffuse following systemic conditions such as viral myocarditis.
Myocardial fibrosis reduces ventricular compliance, the downstream effects of which include heart failure with preserved or reduced ejection fraction, atrial enlargement, atrial fibrillation, and ventricular arrhythmias. Replacement myocardial fibrosis can be easily identified using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) after the injection of gadolinium-based contrast agents (late gadolinium enhancement [LGE]). The presence of myocardial LGE is an emerging risk factor for future cardiac events and mortality in multiple pathologic states in the non-athletic population.2 Reactive fibrosis, on the other hand, is a more diffuse process and may not be easily detected using LGE. Recent developments in nonparametric cardiac MRI techniques such as T1 mapping (myocardial T1 and extracellular volume [ECV] measurements) allow for identification and quantification of diffuse reactive fibrosis. T1 relaxation time varies in relation to the composition of the myocardium and rises with any increase in fibrotic tissue. T1 maps can depict even relatively small variations of T1 within the heart to highlight tissue pathology. T1 mapping performed before and after the injection of a contrast agent allows measurement of ECV, which quantifies the relative expansion of extracellular matrix as a result of diffuse reactive fibrosis.3
Emerging data in athletes suggest that prolonged, high-intensity exercise may also cause cardiac damage and fibrosis even in the absence of predisposition to cardiac disease.4 One animal study looking at rats that were forced to run for 16 weeks (equivalent to 10 years of endurance exercise training in humans) demonstrated the development of eccentric cardiac hypertrophy, myocardial fibrosis and inducible ventricular tachycardia in 42% of the rats. Interestingly, the fibrotic changes were reversed after an 8-week exercise cessation.5 Not all studies, however, support this hypothesis.6,7 Athletes with LGE tend to be older than athletes without LGE. The prevalence of LGE also increases with years of competitive exercise training and the number of completed endurance events.8
Can you quantify or guesstimate how much exercise would get one to the bottom of the U? Minimizing risk is a priority. I have tried to quantify that with BP and heart rate reduction from the walking. Maybe that isn’t a great metric, because the guy on the right side of the U curve may have really low BP and heart rate?
Also, is that only for Afib, or do other cardiac events follow that curve for risk?
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I have excellent blood pressure always have even when I was obese and I do cardio after every workout I will usually do 2 miles in ten minutes on the row machine and I walk at least 3 miles a day
I’m going to finish this cycle with Anavar
Decent review:
Somewhere between soccer and running 
True Tabata probably dumb but hey there’s no free lunch for Elite Athletes. Wonder what the Crossfit people will turn up?
Live longer but risk arrythmia and manageable atherosclerosis?
Why?
Delusional.
Explain the reasoning so I can understand if you don’t mind.
A met is Kcal * BW (in KGs) per hour, right?
That table must be for some large individuals haha. Housework at 350 kcals an hour?
But, good info to know. Basically for a 90 kg individual like myself, I max out my benefit at 900 kcal/hour for the intensity of exercise.
How many hours would one have to do that type of exercise per week? I am guessing 2-3?
I currently do about 5 hours per week at about the 5 met rate (some a bit above, some a bit below). Does doing lower mets for longer give a similar result? Not counting the weight training in those numbers.
I think tabata is not something people typically do for an hour, but the met rate would be very high while doing it.