I’m turning 19 in a few months and I just had my test tested at the doctors and it looks like I’m at 246.
Cycle Plan
W 1-10 Test Enth 500mg E3D
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg EOD (reduce to 0.125mg EOD in last week)
W 1-4 Dbol
W 1-12 Nolva 20mg/d if gyno symptoms (itchy/tender nipples) start to show
W 3-10 HCG 250iu 3x/w if you want to prevent your nuts from shrinking and make recovery easier
PCT Option 1 (SERM PCT)
W 13 Nolva 20mg 2x/d
W 14-16 Nolva 20mg/d
Hows it look?
Oh and for stats and training history-
5’10. 180-165, been training for about 4 years.
[quote]BhamTransit wrote:
I’m turning 19 in a few months and I just had my test tested at the doctors and it looks like I’m at 246.
Cycle Plan
W 1-10 Test Enth 500mg E3D
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg EOD (reduce to 0.125mg EOD in last week)
W 1-4 Dbol
W 1-12 Nolva 20mg/d if gyno symptoms (itchy/tender nipples) start to show
W 3-10 HCG 250iu 3x/w if you want to prevent your nuts from shrinking and make recovery easier
PCT Option 1 (SERM PCT)
W 13 Nolva 20mg 2x/d
W 14-16 Nolva 20mg/d
Hows it look?
Oh and for stats and training history-
5’10. 180-165, been training for about 4 years.
Lifts-
Bench-245
Squat-365
Deadlift-395[/quote]
How does it look? Terrible. 18 years old and you’re looking at running 500mg E3D, well over a gram a week. 5’10" 180-165. You should learn how to walk before you run so to speak. Put in your dues the right way and learn to grow naturally. The better results you get off the sauce, the better results you will get on the sauce
Hahah You remind me of me. I’m 19 myself. Be patient man… You still have a lotttttt of potential left in you. Not worth putting a cap on your progress and natty t production. Give it 4 more years AT LEAST. I understand exactly how difficult it is but this is your life… no reset button. Think of it longterm… I know a guy who was 18 that just did 4 weeks sus… went from 150 to 180. that was 2.5 months ago. Hes now 160. LOL. (not saying youre as moronic as him but come on lol…) Don’t be a goof. Your lifts look pretty good for an 18 yo. GET THEM HIGHER. Keep striving for more. Then when you are at your utmost peak at 24,25 and you know its what you want - make the decision. Perhaps by then your max bench will be 335… your squat will be 475, deadlift 495, etc… THEN you hop on gear and the skies the limit.
Anyways… I thought Id let you know that youre not alone but to keep at it. Maybe help persuade you a little.
[quote]BhamTransit wrote:
I’m turning 19 in a few months and I just had my test tested at the doctors and it looks like I’m at 246.
Cycle Plan
W 1-10 Test Enth 500mg E3D
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg EOD (reduce to 0.125mg EOD in last week)
W 1-4 Dbol
W 1-12 Nolva 20mg/d if gyno symptoms (itchy/tender nipples) start to show
W 3-10 HCG 250iu 3x/w if you want to prevent your nuts from shrinking and make recovery easier
PCT Option 1 (SERM PCT)
W 13 Nolva 20mg 2x/d
W 14-16 Nolva 20mg/d
Hows it look?
Oh and for stats and training history-
5’10. 180-165, been training for about 4 years.
Lifts-
Bench-245
Squat-365
Deadlift-395[/quote]
Bigger question is why your test is at 246 at 18 years old. These are levels for an 80 year old man. You need to get your doctor to perform more testing to find out the cause for this - full thyroid and hormonal panels. Doing an AAS cycle at this point will just mess up your HPTA even more and make any chance of diagnosing the problem impossible. Search the T-replacement forum for more information and post there if you have any questions regarding therapy options.
Doing a cycle at this stage in life with your already fucked up hormone system is quite possibly one of the most retarded things I have ever read on this site (and there are plenty to give you a run for your money).
Go to a good doctor and figure out why your hormones are hosed and get that straightened out before you even think about AAS.
Your lifts are good for your size and age, get your T-levels figured out. You don’t want to start a lifetime of HRT at age 19.
Lots of stuff can affect T-levels, time of day, day to day, week to week, season to season. You might have gotten tested at a bad time or recieved the wrong results.
Just as a reality check, what is your bodyfat like?
[quote]Warhorse wrote:
I agree with the two prior posts.
Your lifts are good for your size and age, get your T-levels figured out. You don’t want to start a lifetime of HRT at age 19.
Lots of stuff can affect T-levels, time of day, day to day, week to week, season to season. You might have gotten tested at a bad time or recieved the wrong results.
Just as a reality check, what is your bodyfat like?[/quote]
BF is around 13%, Abdominals are visible when I flex and thats it. I had my T levels checked twice, the second time it was still in the low 300’s. But my doctor says that I seem to have muscle so that it doesnt really mattter what my levels are, which is hogwash. Do you think I should just find a new doctor and have everything checked out one more time?
[quote]Warhorse wrote:
Do you think I should just find a new doctor and have everything checked out one more time?[/quote]
Yes…don’t be an idiot…find a doc that will take your case seriously…
Go to the TRT subforum of this site and post a non-retarded OP…you will get plenty of good advice, the most of which is going to say that the problem is likely not due to low T, but due to something else (thyroid, adrenals, iron, vitamins, etc)…you need a doctor that is not stupid to figure out what is wrong with you
[quote]Warhorse wrote:
I agree with the two prior posts.
Your lifts are good for your size and age, get your T-levels figured out. You don’t want to start a lifetime of HRT at age 19.
Lots of stuff can affect T-levels, time of day, day to day, week to week, season to season. You might have gotten tested at a bad time or recieved the wrong results.
Just as a reality check, what is your bodyfat like?[/quote]
BF is around 13%, Abdominals are visible when I flex and thats it. I had my T levels checked twice, the second time it was still in the low 300’s. But my doctor says that I seem to have muscle so that it doesnt really mattter what my levels are, which is hogwash. Do you think I should just find a new doctor and have everything checked out one more time?[/quote]
Your doctor is an idiot. Your T levels are low now, and could only get lower as you age. Low testosterone levels over a lifetime can pose serious health risks. Most likely there is a secondary cause for your low levels, and fixing that could prevent you from needing to go on TRT. Find a good doctor who is willing to take the time to find and treat the cause of your low levels.
edit: VT’s advice is correct - we’re basically telling you the same thing. We must have both hit the “submit” button at once.