I’ve felt really bad for a long time, no energy, complete loss of libido, brain fog, and pretty much every other symptom of low T.
Been trying to get help from public healthcare (UK NHS) but my doctor said I’m okay and my bloods are normal, getting them to even take bloods has taken months, they are not interested.
It seems like they don’t know much about this area and are not willing to help, they said I am fine. I don’t feel fine.
From my research I think my bloods aren’t normal and might explain why I feel so shit or be a sign of an underlying problem…thoughts please?
Background info:
20 years old: Did a short cycle, Test E, Anavar, Tren (stupid I know), was only on for 4 weeks ish then my parents found and took the gear. Took PCT for a while (can’t remember the protocol, guy who sold me it advised me what to do).
I got fat over the next few years, gained 35kg/80lb’s.
24 years old: Started dieting and training for 1 year, lost the 35kg/80lb, felt okay, still felt fatigue and tiredness often but put it down to low cal diet for prolonged period of time.
25 years old: Stopped training, diet stayed decent around maintenance calories, occasionally eating a bit more, nothing crazy…no exercise. Gained back 35kg/80lb over next 4 years
29 years old: Feel tired and sleepy all the time, feel like shit, no sex drive, brain fog, got bloods and testosterone level was quite low 9.51 nmol/L Total T, 0.273 nmol/L Free T. I wasn’t sleeping enough (4-5hrs a day) and eating shit takeout food all the time, tried to fix sleep and diet over next year, take vitamin supps etc, be a bit more active (no gym though)
30 years old: lost 10kg/22lb’s by eatier healthier and being a bit more active, still 20kg/44lb overweight though. Still feel tired/shit/no sex drive, feel like it’s getting worse, I’m having issues with memory. My sleep is much improved like 8-9hrs a day+, diet is healthy and around maintenance cals, I have started working out again since last month. I thought these changes would help boost my test level, but did a test and it is showing as 8.41 nmol/L Total T, 0.219 nmol/L Free T.
Is there anything you can tell by my results, do you think I can naturally fix my T somehow? I read research studies that being overweight greatly reduces T levels, I am not sure if I take another year or 2 to lose 20kg/44lb that will make a huge difference…it is also a struggle to live to be honest and has been for like 2 years now, I feel too tired all the time to do anything and now my memory is going downhill randomly, so I am struggling with my job and day to day life a lot. I am really hoping there is something I can do as I don’t feel ready to commit to lifelong TRT if I don’t have to and can do something naturally. Thank you for listening…
You are low, no doubt, the Free T is below the threshold (0.225 nmol/L or 12 nmol/L) based on the british sexual medicine guidelines for the NHS to cover treatment. I don’t get your doctors malfunction!
I’ll bet your doctor is anti-TRT.
A lot of young guys are ruining their HPTA by using steroids before their HPTA’s are fully developed, which continue to mature long into your 30’s. This is one reason why steroid cycles are typically reserved for men into their 40-50’s, because the risk of damaging the HPTA is lower.
You did only a 4 week cycle and already have a broken HPTA, for 10 years now and that’s telling in of itself. You seem to fall into the group of men who wreck their HPTA on their first cycle, and based on that I think it’s a high probability you won’t fix it naturally.
In your case the chicken came before the egg, the weight gain is the result of a broken HPTA from a steroid cycle, not the body fat which is a secondary side effect of your steroid cycle.
You probably have damage to your testes as well as your HPTA.
it pains me to see your Free Test as a calculated result.
If possible, get this checked via Equilibrium Dialysis. That would be your best indicator of ‘need’.
Balance My Hormones should be able to help if you’re willing to spend money out of pocket… You probably don’t want NHS taking care of your hormonal profile.
Don’t blame yourself here. This didn’t hurt you. Four weeks at age 20 is nothing. I would guess you were low to begin with.
I doubt it, however I don’t see a problem with getting into a good diet and exercise program and see how it goes, then if you move to TRT you’ll know you tried everything. However, if you were in my office I’d likely give you TRT.
What, “reserved” for men in their 40s and 50s? No, guys in their 20s and 30s run cycles. Typically, they are athletes, though more and more do it just so they can get jacked. If they are smart they run cycles. Guys in their 40s and 50s don’t run cycles, they get on testosterone, and stay on. Granted, some run “cycles” which means they will increase the testosterone and add a couple other anabolics. They never stop test.
Do you have the same chart for men who are in the OP’s age range and low test? (This one is for 50 to 86 years old’s?) As a 58 year old I can confirm there’s a LOT more going on physically that just low test.
Also a follow up on that would be interesting please. I.ve been reading a bit about cycling and or TRT “plus” and I’m pretty sure that what I’ve read points to cycling being a young mans game. However if you have proof otherwise I’d love to see it and will order my tren straight away
(Honestly, I really want to do tren so please any further info gratefully received)
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