Finish What You Started

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If I got anything good from the genetic department is wide shoulders and good quads(thanks Dad, you were good for something after all!) Growing up I felt awkward, cause I always looked bigger than other girls and was taller than most everyone until about 10th grade… I’ve never been a petite girl, thats for sure.

I’ve often wanted to train for a bb’ing comp(mebbe I’m built for it??) but then I start thinking of all the details and I shy away. I want the experience and its something I cant picture myself doing, which is why I would want to do it, if that makes any sense at all…
I had someone helping me prep actually, back in the Spring, but I chickened out and decided I wasn’t ready. Plus I wasn’t finished getting down to where I want so I could build it back up. If I were to do this it would be next Fall around this time. I want to do the Yorton Cup.

Training: (supersets/tri sets, giant sets etc as usual)

3x12
bb row-95
push-ups into planks(12 pushups, 30s plank)
rdls- 95

db bench
3x10x45s
v-grip cable row
3x10x95

Incline db flies
3x12x20a
1 arm row(elbow out)
3x12x45
walking lunges
3x12x70
Hanging knee raise
3x12

hypers,2x25 ab machine 2x15x105, bicep curl machine(lolz)
GG/BG- 2x20x120

dang thats a lot. Hubby called while I was benching and we chatted for 20 minutes while I rode the bike :slight_smile:

No energy drink…got a headache too, grrr…
Little girl is almost home and it’s lunch time!

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
Rise n Shine!

I always go to bed and wake early. My brain is very sensitive to sleep and I need exactly 8.687543869 hrs. I was fighting to keep my eyes open watching a movie at 830 last night!

Tucked my son into bed and I was asleep by 915. And if you really want to know I woke at 1115pm to pee, and then back to sleep all the way through til 530am.

I don’t take any supps. Feeling ok this morning. Brain fog comes in waves I guess.

I have to schedule a checkup at the clinic on base within the next couple weeks. Get blood taken, wait a week for results and I’ll go from there. Hopefully before our thanksgiving trip I’ll know. If anything is the matter I have to request a referral, wait a week for the acceptance letter and then schedule an appt with them, which last time took 3 months because they were so backed up![/quote]

I’m pretty sure you know what I have to say about your hypo and brain fog. Make sure they test your FREET3 and FREET4 not just your TSH. And get a copy of your labs including the ranges I will look at them for you.

will do…and thanks!

Actually I’m going to get a copy of the last test result today because I lost mine and Im curious…I’ll let you know!

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
will do…and thanks!

Actually I’m going to get a copy of the last test result today because I lost mine and Im curious…I’ll let you know![/quote]

sounds good.

well that didn’t go as planned… the medical clinic was closed for ‘team building.’ wtf?

And they took away the cloths donation drop off place. :bangshead: I’ve been working on getting all our junk out of the spare bedroom, so that maybe soon it can actually be a spare bedroom.

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
well that didn’t go as planned… the medical clinic was closed for ‘team building.’ wtf?
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Med clinic + ‘team building’ = STDs guaranteed…just sayin.

Training is looking great girlie, just like your back!

and i totally think the V taper you could get could take you a long way in BB…you may want to give it some thought!

lookin good Mim :slight_smile:

hope the blood works turn out ok.

I feel so domesticated…

I spent the afternoon spot cleaning my carpet, cleaning out the spare room, taking daughter out to play, and made cookies and dinner at the same time, whew.

Cookies are buckwheat choco chip…and I use applesauce instead of butter.

And I’m torturing my kids with this healthy home cooking, but they better get used to it. tonight I made mac n cheese…(whole grain noodles, shredded cheese a bit o butter and milk) its look a little beige, lol…but it’s tasty! at least I think so…I had about 1/4 cup worth of bites…but it seemed to quell my insane craving for carbs…I blame hormones. I can do that right? :slight_smile:

Alpha- I literally LOL’d! funny stuff
And thanks for the nice words…it means a lot (even over the internetz) I’m definitely thinking more about it. But thats my problem. I think too much. But I won’t do anything unless Im fully committed to the idea. I think it would be good and it’s not forever. I worry about resenting the gym by being a slave to training my ‘parts.’
Im too much of a free bird in the gym. But maybe some actual structure would be good. Im babbling.

Hey N!! Thanks!

Ok Hallowed, my number cruncher…here are some stats from April of last year…and then September.

A bunch of words that are long, but the one that is high is Thyroid PERO AB 27 (0-20)
Thyroglobul…57 (0-80)
Thyroglobulin…9.3 (2.0-35.0)

T3… 125 (60-181)
FT4… 0.90 (0.89-1.76)
TSH… 5.304 (0.350-5.500)

Ok, that was April…then in May-June time frame I started cutting out all gluten…the only thing they tested though in September, was…

FT4…1.00 (0.89-1.76)
TSH… 5.282 (0.350-5.500)

I TRIED TO QUOTE YOUR RESULTS BUT THE POST GOT FUCKED UP. HERE’S MY RESPONSE ON YOUR BLOODWORK

Hi hon,
okay so I’m sure you know those are incomplete tests and not quite the right ones. Here’s the breakdown of what you’ve got tested so far:

[quote]Thyroid PERO AB 27 (0-20) - Thyroid PERO AB is one of the thyroid antibodies. Positive antobody tests indicate hashimotos thyroiditis (autoimune thyroid disease). you have a slightly eleveated level of this ONE antibody. You are not too far outside the range so its not a conclusive diagnosis. you will need to be tested for the other antibody which is anti-TPO. Here is some information from the Stop The Thyroid Madness book on Hashimotos:

Did you get a diagnosis of Hashimotoâ??s Disease, or someone has just suggested you might have it?? Itâ??s a very common form of thyroid disease, and can also be called Hashiâ??s or Thyroiditis. See here for a more thorough explanation of thyroiditis.

WHAT IS HASHIMOTOS? Hashimotoâ??s Thyroiditis is an autoimmune thyroid disease in which your thyroid is being attacked by your own immune system via antibodies, attempting to destroy your gland as if itâ??s some vile enemy. It may start out silently, but the attack will eventually cause an inflammation and gradual destruction of your thyroid gland and can go on for years with miserable side effects to match. It can also cause nodules or lumps. It may be the most common thyroid disease, especially with women.

WHAT ARE SYMPTOMS OF HASHIMOTOS? For many, the symptoms are silentâ??the early stages of the autoimmune attack. But eventually, you start to notice the same symptoms of hypothyroid, including poor stamina, easy fatigue, feeling cold, gaining weight, dry hair and skin, constipation, etc. As it progresses, you may feel very hypo one day, and very hyper another, which is caused by the destruction of your thyroid.

Additionally, since the cells of your thyroid become inefficient in converting iodine into thyroid hormones, your thyroid compensates by swelling or enlarging, and you can have a feeling of tightness around your throat or a sore throat as a result.

The swelling can be called a goiter. You might also see variations in your lab workâ??high one time, low the next, high the next, etc. Symptoms are different from individual to individualâ??some can have the swelling; others may not, for example.

HOW DO I CONFIRM HASHIâ??S LABWISE? Hashiâ??s is confirmed by two antibodies labs: anti-TPO and TgAb. The first antibody, anti-TPO, attacks an enzyme normally found in your thyroid gland, called the Thyroid Peroxidase, which is important in the production of thyroid hormones. The second antibody, TgAb, attacks the key protein in the thyroid gland, the thyroglobulin, which is essential in the production of the T4 and T3 thyroid hormones.

Note: it is unfortunately common for a doctor to only do ONE test, and you need BOTH tests, since you can be normal in one and high in another! We have also noted that saliva does not always accurately detect Hashiâ??s as well as blood tests do.

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO KNOW IF I HAVE HASHIâ??S?? As the attack increases, you will tend to swing between hypo and hyper, making dosing by labs, and especially the TSH, impossible. Your labs will be high one time, and low the nextâ?¦back and forth. The hyper is caused by the release of thyroid hormones into your blood due to the destruction. The hypo is caused by the lessening function of your thyroid due to the attack.

If you do have Hashiâ??s, you may have to insist to your lab-obsessed doctor to let you raise by the elimination of symptoms, not labs, due to this reality.

NOTE: when uninformed doctors fail to do the antibodies test on you, or donâ??t understand the swings of the attack, you can be wrongly diagnosed as having bi-polar, which is simply the hyper swing of the attack!! Or as on Australian gal called it, the â??Yeehaâ?? of her swing.

IS IT A GOOD IDEA JUST TO â??WATCHâ?? IT, AS MY DOCTOR WANTS TO DO? In the opinion of a large body of patients who followed this advice, â??watchingâ?? your Hashiâ??s is akin to watching a dog chew off your leg. Allowing the attack to continue on your thyroid can not only last for years, but cause all sorts of problems along the way of its destruction, including adrenal fatigue.

And once you add adrenal fatigue to the mix, youâ??ve got more problems to tackle. Instead, why not just stop the attack and all the consequences, as explained below. Makes a whole lot more sense, says a patient who suffered through what she calls the â??insane watchingâ??.

HOW DO I TREAT IT? You treat Hashiâ??s the same way you do just plan hypothyroidâ??with thyroid medications. Why? Because if raised high enough, they can stop the attack. We have seen those on thyroxine T4-only (aka Synthroid, Levoxyl, etc) have some success in stopping the attack, but patients who switched to Armour or other prescription desiccated thyroid noticed even better results, especially if they dosed by symptoms rather than labs.

Some doctors have unwisely recommended non-treatment until labwork â??stabilizesâ??, but that could take months and years, and you continue to suffer.

The attack can happen over a few weeks or extend into years. It has been stated that antibodies can be present for years even after you counter the attack with thyroid hormones like Armour. But patients on Armour have noted that antibodies greatly fall if they dose high enough.

IS THERE A CONNECTION BETWEEN PREGNANCY and HASHIâ??S? Pregnancy can be a strong precursor to developing Hashiâ??s, since the increased activity of your immune system can either worsen an autoimmune disease you already have, such as thyroiditis, or cause it to appear.

WHAT ELSE MIGHT I NEED TO AVOID WITH HASHIâ??S?? Research shows there can be a strong connection between having Hashimotoâ??s disease and gluten intolerance, or Celiac disease. Celiac disease is a digestive disorder that results in an overreaction to gluten, a protein found in most grains like wheat, rye, oats and barley, which can be found in breads, cereals, pasta and many processed foods. The overreaction, in turn, causes autoimmune damage to the intestines, which results in poor absorption of nutrients.

Gluten can also trigger the very autoimmune reactions that cause you to have Hashiâ??s. As a result, some Hashimotoâ??s patients experiment with eliminating gluten from their diets, and with good results.

BOTTOM LINE?: Patients have learned that Hashimotoâ??s is not a condition you let take its course (as some doctors will recommend), but that you treat, and with desiccated thyroid. See the Things We Have Learned page. And during that treatment, you raise according to the elimination of symptoms, not labs.

And if a doctor tells you that your Hashiâ??s is â??mildâ??, yet you have a sore throat, swollen neck, or the sensation of â??wowâ?? one time, and â??whoaâ?? another, you are much farther along in the attack than you know! Time to insist that you be put on Armour, insist to raise high enough to control the symptoms, and be your own best advocate!

***There is some evidence that taking Selenium can help reduce the TPO antibodies, but itâ??s not recommended as a â??replacementâ?? for desiccated thyroid, but as an additional help.[/quote[

BOTTOM LINE - Have your doctor run both of THESE TEST at the SAME TIME “Anti-TPO and TgAb”

Thyroglobul…57 (0-80)
Thyroglobulin…9.3 (2.0-35.0)
OKAY, these two tests confuse me. Why did your doctor run these tests? These aree tumor markers. Have you had thyroid cancer? Do you have a goiter? Is your thyroid gland swollen? Usually these tests are run on thyroid cancer survivors to test for recurrence not sure why he ran these. The good news you don’t seem to have a thyroid tumor but I wouldn’t think that you did in the first place.

T3… 125 (60-181) - this is a test of your TOTAL T3. It is pretty meaningless. You need a test of your FREET3 meaning the unbound “usable” T3 in your body. T3 is the thyroid hormone that runs your metabolism and makes you feel well. T3 is nothing to mess with and nothing you’d want to live without. GET THE FREET3 test.

FT4… 0.90 (0.89-1.76) T4 is the thyroid hormone that your body uses to MAKE T3. that is all that T4 does. Your body turns T4 into T3. You have VERY VERY LITTLE FREE (usable) T4. Ideally this lab result should be at least halfway up the lab range you’re is BAREY in range. To me this indicates a problem. Your more recent result is barely better FT4…1.00 (0.89-1.76) still BARELY in the range though slightly improved.

I’m now going to talk about your TSH results. TSH stands for Thyroid Stimulating Hormone. this is the hormone put out by your pituitary gland to tell your Thyroid to make more thyroid hormones. It is your pituitary telling your thyroid it needs to pick up the production pace.

First of all the lab range your doc and your lab are using is INCORRECT. The standard lab range was changed nationally to be .3 - 3.0 in 2003. Your doc and your lab are SEVEN YEARS behind in just test reading. My OLD GENERAL PRACTITIONER would treat ANY TSH ABOVE 2.0 as Hypothyroid. Yours is over 5.

I’m a pirate, not a doctor… but I believe you are hypothyroid. Please get the correct Hashi’s tests and also a FREET3 test. You need to know if you have autimuno hypothyroisim or not. The treatment will still be the same for each you will need hormone supplmenetation preferrably T4 AND T3 but you need those tests to confirm. And the FREET3 test will let us know how bad your “active” hormone levels are.

Welcome to the community.

WOW…I’ll be honest, I didn’t read all the info, but I will…

THANKS!

I’ll take notes from now until I request some more lab work. They only test the bare minimum of course. Although,if it’s the same Nurse Practitioner who told me I was hunting zebras, then she probably will still only order the bare minimum. And send me back to the endo later…

No WONDER, I can’t seem to exist without caffeine. But I thought I was ‘cured,’ because my levels were ‘within, range’.

I was diagnosed as hypo more than 2 years based on my tsh alone…I was handed some synthroid and was sent on my way. Then I started doing more reading…

I think they tested the weird ones because my thyroid was a little swollen…And did NOT test for Hashi’s because I said it doesn’t run in my family as far as I knew. :confused:

Now I wonder whats going on because of the recent ‘attack,’ of fatigue. Don’t Hashis have periods of ups and downs? Could also explain why I feel better without gluten?

aghhhhhhhhh

Actually, I’ll just print that whole page out.
And I DID have a gluten intolerance when I was a toddler, but the Doctors back then said I would outgrow it. My Mom told me she gradually introduced it back into my diet in small doses and I was fine.

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
WOW…I’ll be honest, I didn’t read all the info, but I will…

THANKS!

I’ll take notes from now until I request some more lab work. They only test the bare minimum of course. Although,if it’s the same Nurse Practitioner who told me I was hunting zebras, then she probably will still only order the bare minimum. And send me back to the endo later…

No WONDER, I can’t seem to exist without caffeine. But I thought I was ‘cured,’ because my levels were ‘within, range’.

I was diagnosed as hypo more than 2 years based on my tsh alone…I was handed some synthroid and was sent on my way. Then I started doing more reading…

I think they tested the weird ones because my thyroid was a little swollen…And did NOT test for Hashi’s because I said it doesn’t run in my family as far as I knew. :confused:

Now I wonder whats going on because of the recent ‘attack,’ of fatigue. Don’t Hashis have periods of ups and downs? Could also explain why I feel better without gluten?

aghhhhhhhhh[/quote]

yes yes yes yes yes to most of it and no to some of it LOL.
yes no gluten can help feel better
yes you are tired because you are hypo
no, being barely in range does not mean you are cured
no the nurse that told you you were “hunting zebras” does not have a fucking clue about thyroid
yes you are going to need to get the right tests

synthroid alone won’t necesarily do it you may need supplmenetal T3 also brand name cytomel

no hashi’s is not necesarilly hereditary it runs in family but something like one in ten women in the US has it.

Check out stopthethyroidmadness.com for more info

Sorry the quotes got screwed up in my post!

You can get your own lab work at healthworkusa.com enter discount code 12345 at checkout I think the thyroid panel II has the antibody tests and the FREET3 and FREET4 that you need.

My thyroid was TERRIBLY swollen (see attached pic) before I got proper treatment and I do not have hashi’s. Any hypothyroidism can cause this to happen. doesn’t have to be cancer.

sweet…thanks!

ya, that was a pretty swollen neck you had!

Could this also be why this crazy controlled ‘crash diet,’ has allowed to lose the weight? And why I gained 10lbs super fast after I went gluten binging over the summer? lol

Can I just pretend nothing is wrong? no? damn.

Betty, good luck with getting everything sorted out.

OMG! i completely forgot about trading applesauce for butter in recipes–thank you for reminding me! they come out softer, i think :slight_smile: ooohhh…yumm

sorry to hear about your thyroid or misc endo weirdness :frowning: that stuff NO JOKE. my family line has it, luckily so far i’m fine. but it whacks you out. hope things get cleared and you get some answers.

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
sweet…thanks!

ya, that was a pretty swollen neck you had!

Could this also be why this crazy controlled ‘crash diet,’ has allowed to lose the weight? And why I gained 10lbs super fast after I went gluten binging over the summer? lol

Can I just pretend nothing is wrong? no? damn.[/quote]

Actually you are very lucky to be able to lose weight at all. I gained thirty pounds over eight months. While eating an average of 1200 cals a day. I would alternate between 1800 cals and 500 cals every other day. this was basically without any treatment and was totally outside of my control. HypO will increase the tendency to retain water also… and therefore going in and out of ketosis (on and off carbs drastically) will cause huge bounce ups in weight. Again lucky to get away with 10LBs. Because you ARE able to lose I think yours hasn’t gotten horrible yet. You WILL feel so much better treated though. For me it was really not knowing how bad i felt until I got better.

no pretending!

I’ve lost about 65 total pounds since last Summer, thanks in part to a pretty lo-calorie diet.
Went off the diet completely in March of this year…lost an additional 10 lbs April-May, by cutting fruit and other carbs and doing cardio…added the carbs back
and …gained 10 back this summer(baking)

I’ve been dieting again since Sept. Could also explain why refeeds don’t work for me.

First inkling into all this was when I was 5 months pg with my daughter…'high/low normal, but kept an eye on it. 6 weeks after she was born it was checked again and I was within range. Never saw the results, just trusted my midwife.

When my daughter was about 1 and I was tired all the time and still having trouble losing weight I got tested, and ‘congrats, you have hypo!!’

Thanks Kimba- I hope so too!!

Brute- yep…I discovered though, its not equal parts apple sauce to oil/butter…I made cookies last week for the kids, but it was more like cookie cake! :slight_smile:

Halo- thanks again, lady…100 points for you! :slight_smile:

Check this out…specifically the 3rd paragraph.
http://thyroidtalk.org/hypothyroidism/exercises-for-hypothyroidism

But seriously, should peeps with thyroid stuffs train differently? silly, I know…probably not a good idea to take fat burners neither?

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
I’ve come to realize that baked goods are not meant to be eaten on a weekly basis. Gluten is NOT my friend and I really DO LOVE my protein n veggies <3!!![/quote]

I guess that’s just the way life is for us girls. We need to learn to love the stuff that makes us look glam.

I like it that you have kids and still manage to be in such an awesome fit.