Figure Competitors w/o Boob Jobs

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[quote]GymJenn wrote:
Thankfully most of us are undeniably secure with who we are, and the silly little shit just doesn’t matter.

big love
Jenn[/quote]

On that one point, people really believe that some guy who walks around with 20" arms is INSECURE? I get looked and stared at so often that there is no way someone who was truly “insecure” would be able to make it through a day if they got the same reaction.

If you walk into a room and all eyes are on you, the insecure person would be the one who doesn’t ever want to stand out. They would be the ones who like to go unnoticed in a crowd.

For most people, it is only logical that they would have to have greater than average “security” with who they are in order to face that daily.

It isn’t like we can’t hear the fucking whispers when we walk past whether you be a guy or a girl.

Unfortunately, guys get way more respect for it in society than women.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
GymJenn wrote:
Thankfully most of us are undeniably secure with who we are, and the silly little shit just doesn’t matter.

big love
Jenn

On that one point, people really believe that some guy who walks around with 20" arms is INSECURE? I get looked and stared at so often that there is no way someone who was truly “insecure” would be able to make it through a day if they got the same reaction.

If you walk into a room and all eyes are on you, the insecure person would be the one who doesn’t ever want to stand out. They would be the ones who like to go unnoticed in a crowd.

For most people, it is only logical that they would have to have greater than average “security” with who they are in order to face that daily.

It isn’t like we can’t hear the fucking whispers when we walk past whether you be a guy or a girl.

Unfortunately, guys get way more respect for it in society than women.[/quote]

Darlin’ you just summed it all up. Thank you for saying what I was thinking.
I’m a fan.
Jenn

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Not to defend Sifu, I think he is way out of line (despite being entitled to his opinion) but the moment you all begin to bash him on his size in terms of being an under-achiever, you immediately fall into doing exactly what he is doing.

He isn’t under achieving. He is achieving. His focus is just different than yours. Yeah yeah T-Nation, body building, blah blah blah. I think most of you are intelligent enough to move past that and actually read and have opinions pertinent to the conversation at hand.

Sifu is a martial artist, that is his focus and that is his drive. He by all of his self accounts is very accomplished in this arena and whatever his goals are here, he has stated them; he is accomplished, his weight is appropriate, he is not under achieving.

No reason to debase your arguments and opinions by utilizing the same off-point argument construct that he was using in this very thread to debase women with implants. It gets you no where. If you were attempting to use sarcasm by emulating him, you failed.

There is enough on point and obvious garbage coming from his mouth, you don’t need to validate his point by using the same bullshit he did.

Fact is, it is their choice, their decision. You don’t like, cool. You don’t have to. They don’t have to care.

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[quote]JohnnyNinja wrote:
Not to defend Sifu, I think he is way out of line (despite being entitled to his opinion) but the moment you all begin to bash him on his size in terms of being an under-achiever, you immediately fall into doing exactly what he is doing.

He isn’t under achieving. He is achieving. His focus is just different than yours. Yeah yeah T-Nation, body building, blah blah blah. I think most of you are intelligent enough to move past that and actually read and have opinions pertinent to the conversation at hand.

Sifu is a martial artist, that is his focus and that is his drive. He by all of his self accounts is very accomplished in this arena and whatever his goals are here, he has stated them; he is accomplished, his weight is appropriate, he is not under achieving.

No reason to debase your arguments and opinions by utilizing the same off-point argument construct that he was using in this very thread to debase women with implants. It gets you no where. If you were attempting to use sarcasm by emulating him, you failed.

There is enough on point and obvious garbage coming from his mouth, you don’t need to validate his point by using the same bullshit he did.

Fact is, it is their choice, their decision. You don’t like, cool. You don’t have to. They don’t have to care.[/quote]

Please. We have a “martial artist” who just called out BODYBUILDERS. And you don’t think his lack of size would be pointed out?

How many of us have jumped into Combat Sports to degrade martial artists?

I would fully expect for them to ask about my background in martial arts training if I did.

No one was at fault for pointing out that the guy who is criticizing those who like big muscles has NONE of his own making his opinion pretty fucking invalid.

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Okay, heres my opinion.

Keep in mind i’ve never been close enough to a fake breast to comment on touch/feel/movement and the like.

Making blanket statements that cover a large group of people is almost ALWAYS going to leave you with a ton of holes. Saying, “man figure competitors looks stupid with fake tits” can easily be countered with a bunch of people that surely DONT look stupid with their brand new boobs.

But, lets take a look at this girl. I’m sure this is what the OP was refering to when he made this thread, and I’ll try to convey his message in a less assholey way.

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Obviously having a body like that takes hard work, and a lot of time and effort, but personally her implants look down right silly.

Maybe they don’t look so bad when her bodyfats higher, maybe the do, who knows, the OP was simply saying that he does not like the way they look, although I’m sure many of the people here do. It would be pretty easy to find many cases of implants looking good, and bad.

Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Also, to make the blanket statement that women either do, or do not, get their implants for men, other women, or themselves, is also a bit silly. Different people get them for different reasons, and I tend to agree that it isnt “right” that some women feel pressured by “society” to get them.

As for the thread being pointless, yep, it is. But thats why its in the get a life section.

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[quote]Defekt wrote:

Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

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Bullshit. That is like saying none of the guys here should respond with any emotional attachment at all if someone were to log on and tell us that everyone with arms over 16" uses steroids, is a cheater, and is generally mentally ill.

This activity takes a certain level of passion. Why the hell would someone not respond if someone degrades the activity?

Maybe you wouldn’t mind it because you don’t stand out much.

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[quote]Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.
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Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…

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[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…
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That they care about the subject matter?

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[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…
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no… it would be one thing if this was a casual statement. This is trying to get a point through someones very unkind and biased opinion on a website where HERE they should not be facing that kind of insulting postings. This isn’t BBW world.

Here is where they should not have to have random guys taking potshots at them when these men should have a respect for the work.

It isn’t over-protesting. It is continuing to speak to the deaf.

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[quote]Obviously having a body like that takes hard work, and a lot of time and effort, but personally her implants look down right silly.

Maybe they don’t look so bad when her bodyfats higher, maybe the do, who knows, the OP was simply saying that he does not like the way they look, although I’m sure many of the people here do. It would be pretty easy to find many cases of implants looking good, and bad.
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I think the OP is too god damn picky, that’s what I think.

I can’t think of ANYBODY in my social circle that would turn down a chance to get with that, low BF percentage or no.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
That they care about the subject matter?[/quote]

That could be true too. But why even continue arguing with someone after making it perfectly clear that you couldn’t care less what they think? It gets to the point where people start to wonder who they’re trying to convince. Him (sifu, etc.)? Or themselves?

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Way to miss the point Professor X. If there was any anti muscle size bashing coming from Sifu, it must have been so minimal and irrelevant in a thread concerning fake breasts on figure competitors, a thread with very big and obvious negative opinions concerning the very said thing;

I must have missed the muscle bashing (concerning mass), seeing as how it wasn’t relevant. If that is what you want to focus on and argue against in this very thread (as opposed to the many many threads where such an argument makes sense), I won’t tell you otherwise.

You obviously will do what you want. But it has no pertinence to my post and very little to no pertinence to this thread as a whole. You chose to see it how you wish. I suggested bashing Sifu on his weak argument in context to the thread at hand.

But most of you here seemingly prefer to just bash. So be it, I’m done. I gave my opinion.

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[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That they care about the subject matter?

That could be true too. But why even continue arguing with someone after making it perfectly clear that you couldn’t care less what they think? It gets to the point where people start to wonder who they’re trying to convince. Him (sifu, etc.)? Or themselves?[/quote]

Maybe you should stop wondering and just ask. Sifu insulted quite a few women on this forum with his posts here and you think they shouldn’t feel anything?

WTf?

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…

no… it would be one thing if this was a casual statement. This is trying to get a point through someones very unkind and biased opinion on a website where HERE they should not be facing that kind of insulting postings. This isn’t BBW world.

Here is where they should not have to have random guys taking potshots at them when these men should have a respect for the work.

It isn’t over-protesting. It is continuing to speak to the deaf.

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Shit, I look at it this way. If I had colored contacts, and someone made a thread calling everyone with colored contacts an idiot faggot peice of shit, I wouldnt care. I’d loko at my contacts and think “well, I like them” and not give a fuck what some random retard said on the internet, since like most claim, its for myself.

Same thing goes for implants, or even muscle mass, anyone who makes a thread calling anyone wanting to be big, any sort of retarded names, I simply ignore it.

I life for whatever reason I lift for, not to impress people over the internet. I’m comfortable enough, get enough comments, move enough weight ECT, that it honestly does not matter, and I don’t care.

My main point is that this thread wouldn’t have gotten as much attention, had you not been offended, and simply ignored it. Although, I will agree that the way in which things were stated was less than complimentary.

Anyone who makes a thread

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[quote]JohnnyNinja wrote:
Way to miss the point Professor X. If there was any anti muscle size bashing coming from Sifu, it must have been so minimal and irrelevant in a thread concerning fake breasts on figure competitors, a thread with very big and obvious negative opinions concerning the very said thing;

I must have missed the muscle bashing (concerning mass), seeing as how it wasn’t relevant. If that is what you want to focus on and argue against in this very thread (as opposed to the many many threads where such an argument makes sense), I won’t tell you otherwise. You obviously will do what you want.

But it has no pertinence to my post and very little to no pertinence to this thread as a whole. You chose to see it how you wish. I suggested bashing Sifu on his weak argument in context to the thread at hand. But most of you here seemingly prefer to just bash. So be it, I’m done. I gave my opinion.[/quote]

His posts about how his friends look funny with big muscles was enough to imply his stance on the issue. Yes, it does appear you missed something.

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[quote]Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…

no… it would be one thing if this was a casual statement. This is trying to get a point through someones very unkind and biased opinion on a website where HERE they should not be facing that kind of insulting postings.

This isn’t BBW world. Here is where they should not have to have random guys taking potshots at them when these men should have a respect for the work.

It isn’t over-protesting. It is continuing to speak to the deaf.

Shit, I look at it this way. If I had colored contacts, and someone made a thread calling everyone with colored contacts an idiot faggot peice of shit, I wouldnt care. I’d loko at my contacts and think “well, I like them” and not give a fuck what some random retard said on the internet, since like most claim, its for myself.

Same thing goes for implants, or even muscle mass, anyone who makes a thread calling anyone wanting to be big, any sort of retarded names, I simply ignore it.

I life for whatever reason I lift for, not to impress people over the internet. I’m comfortable enough, get enough comments, move enough weight ECT, that it honestly does not matter, and I don’t care.

My main point is that this thread wouldn’t have gotten as much attention, had you not been offended, and simply ignored it. Although, I will agree that the way in which things were stated was less than complimentary.

Anyone who makes a thread
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It’s on a BB website… what aren’t you getting?

see… you want everyone to get your side of it, but you really are just breezing past what anyone on the other side is saying.
I get it is the OP’s and Sifu’s opinion. But why express such an insulting opinion on a website that is devoted to that endeavor? That was pure maliciousness, or stupidly unkind.

and it keeps going because it isn’t YOUR issue so it isn’t a big deal for you

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…

no… it would be one thing if this was a casual statement. This is trying to get a point through someones very unkind and biased opinion on a website where HERE they should not be facing that kind of insulting postings. This isn’t BBW world.

Here is where they should not have to have random guys taking potshots at them when these men should have a respect for the work.

It isn’t over-protesting. It is continuing to speak to the deaf.

Shit, I look at it this way. If I had colored contacts, and someone made a thread calling everyone with colored contacts an idiot faggot peice of shit, I wouldnt care. I’d loko at my contacts and think “well, I like them” and not give a fuck what some random retard said on the internet, since like most claim, its for myself.

Same thing goes for implants, or even muscle mass, anyone who makes a thread calling anyone wanting to be big, any sort of retarded names, I simply ignore it.

I life for whatever reason I lift for, not to impress people over the internet. I’m comfortable enough, get enough comments, move enough weight ECT, that it honestly does not matter, and I don’t care.

My main point is that this thread wouldn’t have gotten as much attention, had you not been offended, and simply ignored it. Although, I will agree that the way in which things were stated was less than complimentary.

Anyone who makes a thread

It’s on a BB website… what aren’t you getting?

see… you want everyone to get your side of it, but you really are just breezing past what anyone on the other side is saying.
I get it is the OP’s and Sifu’s opinion. But why express such an insulting opinion on a website that is devoted to that endeavor? That was pure maliciousness, or stupidly unkind.

and it keeps going because it isn’t YOUR issue so it isn’t a big deal for you

[/quote]

My point is, that you shouldn’t take everything to heart so quickly, and chalk them up as being assholes. You’re not going to fix they way they feel via a discussion on a forum, and it only serves to show that maybe they ARE right about people doing it out of insecurity.

My opinion is that if you truely were comfortable with your body, you would be able to ignore random people on the internet much more easily. This is simply my opinion, and I realize that you feel different, this is just how I feel about the way you feel, and I’m sure you feel that I am wrong.

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[quote]Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…

no… it would be one thing if this was a casual statement. This is trying to get a point through someones very unkind and biased opinion on a website where HERE they should not be facing that kind of insulting postings. This isn’t BBW world.

Here is where they should not have to have random guys taking potshots at them when these men should have a respect for the work.

It isn’t over-protesting. It is continuing to speak to the deaf.

Shit, I look at it this way. If I had colored contacts, and someone made a thread calling everyone with colored contacts an idiot faggot peice of shit, I wouldnt care. I’d loko at my contacts and think “well, I like them” and not give a fuck what some random retard said on the internet, since like most claim, its for myself.

Same thing goes for implants, or even muscle mass, anyone who makes a thread calling anyone wanting to be big, any sort of retarded names, I simply ignore it. I life for whatever reason I lift for, not to impress people over the internet.

I’m comfortable enough, get enough comments, move enough weight ECT, that it honestly does not matter, and I don’t care.

My main point is that this thread wouldn’t have gotten as much attention, had you not been offended, and simply ignored it. Although, I will agree that the way in which things were stated was less than complimentary.

Anyone who makes a thread
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I see what your saying, but that’s a pretty bad analogy. You can always take colored contacts out or change a haircut. It’s not so simple with implants or big muscles. It’s a more personal thing to criticize.

Plus, when you consider the work it takes to get big or have the body of a fitness athlete, it’s hard not to be offended or insulted by someone being critical of it.

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[quote]Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…

no… it would be one thing if this was a casual statement. This is trying to get a point through someones very unkind and biased opinion on a website where HERE they should not be facing that kind of insulting postings. This isn’t BBW world.

Here is where they should not have to have random guys taking potshots at them when these men should have a respect for the work.

It isn’t over-protesting. It is continuing to speak to the deaf.

Shit, I look at it this way. If I had colored contacts, and someone made a thread calling everyone with colored contacts an idiot faggot peice of shit, I wouldnt care. I’d loko at my contacts and think “well, I like them” and not give a fuck what some random retard said on the internet, since like most claim, its for myself.

Same thing goes for implants, or even muscle mass, anyone who makes a thread calling anyone wanting to be big, any sort of retarded names, I simply ignore it.

I life for whatever reason I lift for, not to impress people over the internet. I’m comfortable enough, get enough comments, move enough weight ECT, that it honestly does not matter, and I don’t care.

My main point is that this thread wouldn’t have gotten as much attention, had you not been offended, and simply ignored it. Although, I will agree that the way in which things were stated was less than complimentary.

Anyone who makes a thread

It’s on a BB website… what aren’t you getting?

see… you want everyone to get your side of it, but you really are just breezing past what anyone on the other side is saying.
I get it is the OP’s and Sifu’s opinion. But why express such an insulting opinion on a website that is devoted to that endeavor? That was pure maliciousness, or stupidly unkind.

and it keeps going because it isn’t YOUR issue so it isn’t a big deal for you

My point is, that you shouldn’t take everything to heart so quickly, and chalk them up as being assholes. You’re not going to fix they way they feel via a discussion on a forum, and it only serves to show that maybe they ARE right about people doing it out of insecurity.

My opinion is that if you truely were comfortable with your body, you would be able to ignore random people on the internet much more easily. This is simply my opinion, and I realize that you feel different, this is just how I feel about the way you feel, and I’m sure you feel that I am wrong.
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I get what you are saying, and yes they and others are assholes. This isn’t a random site so that makes it NOT a random comment

why don’t you just let it drop instead of pretending like you are the only voice of reason?

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.

Good point. You know what they say about those who argue the most about something…

no… it would be one thing if this was a casual statement. This is trying to get a point through someones very unkind and biased opinion on a website where HERE they should not be facing that kind of insulting postings. This isn’t BBW world.

Here is where they should not have to have random guys taking potshots at them when these men should have a respect for the work.

It isn’t over-protesting. It is continuing to speak to the deaf.

Shit, I look at it this way. If I had colored contacts, and someone made a thread calling everyone with colored contacts an idiot faggot peice of shit, I wouldnt care.

I’d loko at my contacts and think “well, I like them” and not give a fuck what some random retard said on the internet, since like most claim, its for myself.

Same thing goes for implants, or even muscle mass, anyone who makes a thread calling anyone wanting to be big, any sort of retarded names, I simply ignore it.

I life for whatever reason I lift for, not to impress people over the internet. I’m comfortable enough, get enough comments, move enough weight ECT, that it honestly does not matter, and I don’t care.

My main point is that this thread wouldn’t have gotten as much attention, had you not been offended, and simply ignored it. Although, I will agree that the way in which things were stated was less than complimentary.

Anyone who makes a thread

It’s on a BB website… what aren’t you getting?

see… you want everyone to get your side of it, but you really are just breezing past what anyone on the other side is saying.
I get it is the OP’s and Sifu’s opinion. But why express such an insulting opinion on a website that is devoted to that endeavor? That was pure maliciousness, or stupidly unkind.

and it keeps going because it isn’t YOUR issue so it isn’t a big deal for you

My point is, that you shouldn’t take everything to heart so quickly, and chalk them up as being assholes. You’re not going to fix they way they feel via a discussion on a forum, and it only serves to show that maybe they ARE right about people doing it out of insecurity.

My opinion is that if you truely were comfortable with your body, you would be able to ignore random people on the internet much more easily. This is simply my opinion, and I realize that you feel different, this is just how I feel about the way you feel, and I’m sure you feel that I am wrong.

I get what you are saying, and yes they and others are assholes. This isn’t a random site so that makes it NOT a random comment

why don’t you just let it drop instead of pretending like you are the only voice of reason?

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I’m posting for the same reason you probably are, I have nothing better to do at the moment.