[quote]Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
I get what you are saying, and yes they and others are assholes. This isn’t a random site so that makes it NOT a random comment
why don’t you just let it drop instead of pretending like you are the only voice of reason?
I’m posting for the same reason you probably are, I have nothing better to do at the moment.
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something we can agree on
I think every guy and gay woman should send a dollar to a fund to pay for implants for everyone!
Seriously though.
I find it incredibly HOT for a woman to put the time and effort into getting themselves to look the way they do.
I like all shapes and sizes and I am more impressed by and attracted to the effort than if she has big or small breasts.
I think it depends on the woman, if it is an area she wants to change, by all means change it. Heck what do we do to our bodies anyway, we change what we can.
I think some guys on here are jealous because there is no option for them to increase the size of a certain part of their anatomy.
All of the woman that have posted on this thread are gorgeous! WOW!
[quote]Sifu wrote:
randman wrote:
Sifu wrote:
randman wrote:
Sifu wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Michele C wrote:
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Well Mr. Armchair Critic. Now the truth comes out. You are a short, small person. Don’t give us this “I’m setting my own limits” crap. It’s simply an excuse for your small stature in life.
So you are only 15 lbs less than Franco Columbo? Where’s the pics to show us how buff you are? I’m sure Michele C, GymJenn and the rest of the “Fake Boob” crowd would love to see how perfectly developed you are…you are a complete tool.
The truth finally comes out? My stats have been on my profile for years. Plus I have mentioned them in my posts before. I am comfortable with myself. Like I said I am not trying to be a bodybuilder.
I got it. You’re comfortable with your underachievements. You also seem to think you got this whole fake boob thing figured out. Like you’ve been close enough to enough female fitness models that you can psychoanalyze them.
Like we already established, they wouldn’t give you the time or day.
You seem to be under the impression the only reasons girls get fake boobs is because of an insecurity. I’m sure this theory was cooked up from your armchair. News flash. Your genes determine your boob size.
In a lot of cases, it has absolutely nothing to do with insecurity why women get boob jobs. Most of the time it has to do with an ideal that fitness-minded women are trying to achieve.
Some have very small boobs to begin with and then cut a bunch of bodyfat and don’t have much of anything left. They want to achieve curves all over. No amount of lifting is going to change that.
It’s like being born with a small penis (like you for instance). If there was a safe surgery to increase it to a normal size that would complement the rest of your physique assuming you had any muscle wouldn’t you do it? In your case the answer is no cuz you don’t have any appreciable muscle mass either.
Okay I will stop the psychoanalysis of the ladies. Instead I’ll analize your fixation with my penis and desire to see my physique photos. I am not sending you photos of either so you are going to have to cruise somewhere else.
I find your stated interests in my anatomy very creepy especially when I look at your spanking Barney avatar. Did you get that with a NAMBLA membership?[/quote]
Great comeback…ummm, maybe not so much.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
I see what your saying, but that’s a pretty bad analogy. You can always take colored contacts out or change a haircut. It’s not so simple with implants or big muscles. [/quote]
Bad analogy or not, his thinking isn’t off. I don’t have breast implants so I’ll use my tattoos as an example. I’ve spent roughly $5000 over the last 12 years on ink. In other words, I have a lot of ink.
I always see idiots bashing people with tattoos. Calling them all kinds of names and insinuating they have mental problems. Are they also talking about me? Yes, they are. But I’ve never once argued with them. Why? Because of what Defekt is basically saying.
[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
I see what your saying, but that’s a pretty bad analogy. You can always take colored contacts out or change a haircut. It’s not so simple with implants or big muscles.
Bad analogy or not, his thinking isn’t off. I don’t have breast implants so I’ll use my tattoos as an example. I’ve spent roughly $5000 over the last 12 years on ink. In other words, I have a lot of ink.
I always see idiots bashing people with tattoos. Calling them all kinds of names and insinuating they have mental problems. Are they also talking about me? Yes, they are. But I’ve never once argued with them. Why? Because of what Defekt is basically saying.[/quote]
That’s you. Who the fuck cares? I HAVE responded when someone calls everyone with a tattoo an idiot because it isn’t true.
Cool, you don’t feel passionately about anything enough to respond to insults. What makes you think everyone else around you should respond the same?
[quote]Defekt wrote:
Obviously having a body like that takes hard work, and a lot of time and effort, but personally her implants look down right silly. [/quote]
Her implants look down right silly??? Are you kidding me? I’d be all over that shit. You sure you have functioning equipment down there?
I am willing to bet that if she came up to you and set “let’s fuck” and while you leaped at the chance and was doing the deed and she said “play with my boobies” I’m sure the last thing out of your mouth would be as to how silly her implants look.
You’d be bragging to all of your buddies after that you just banged the hottest chick you’ve ever have or will have laid your hands on. Puhleeze.
[quote]randman wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Obviously having a body like that takes hard work, and a lot of time and effort, but personally her implants look down right silly.
Her implants look down right silly??? Are you kidding me? I’d be all over that shit. You sure you have functioning equipment down there?
I am willing to bet that if she came up to you and set “let’s fuck” and while you leaped at the chance and was doing the deed and she said “play with my boobies” I’m sure the last thing out of your mouth would be as to how silly her implants look.
You’d be bragging to all of your buddies after that you just banged the hottest chick you’ve ever have or will have laid your hands on. Puhleeze.[/quote]
Beat me to it. She’s hot as hell.
She looks good even in contest shape there.
I can’t even imagine how great her body looks once she isn’t so damn dry, which I still find pretty impressive by the way.
Personally, I think shed look better if she had gotten a size or two smaller on the implants, but thats just my opinion. I don’t like boobs that are 100% obviously fake, to me they don’t look “right”.
Ladies,you look great.Implants,no implants,it’s irrelevant.
Don’t listen to,or entertain ,the repugnant shit being spouted here by the few negative individuals.
Those that cannot achieve,will always look for a way to pull down those that do,or even dare to try.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
JohnnyNinja wrote:
Not to defend Sifu, I think he is way out of line (despite being entitled to his opinion) but the moment you all begin to bash him on his size in terms of being an under-achiever, you immediately fall into doing exactly what he is doing.
He isn’t under achieving. He is achieving. His focus is just different than yours. Yeah yeah T-Nation, body building, blah blah blah. I think most of you are intelligent enough to move past that and actually read and have opinions pertinent to the conversation at hand.
Sifu is a martial artist, that is his focus and that is his drive. He by all of his self accounts is very accomplished in this arena and whatever his goals are here, he has stated them; he is accomplished, his weight is appropriate, he is not under achieving.
No reason to debase your arguments and opinions by utilizing the same off-point argument construct that he was using in this very thread to debase women with implants. It gets you no where. If you were attempting to use sarcasm by emulating him, you failed.
There is enough on point and obvious garbage coming from his mouth, you don’t need to validate his point by using the same bullshit he did.
Fact is, it is their choice, their decision. You don’t like, cool. You don’t have to. They don’t have to care.
Please. We have a “martial artist” who just called out BODYBUILDERS. And you don’t think his lack of size would be pointed out?
How many of us have jumped into Combat Sports to degrade martial artists?
I would fully expect for them to ask about my background in martial arts training if I did.
No one was at fault for pointing out that the guy who is criticizing those who like big muscles has NONE of his own making his opinion pretty fucking invalid.[/quote]
My choice of what size best suits me was not restricted by my upper limit of growth. I actually have fairly long muscle bellies, more than a case of mag10 in the freezer, cow pellets are still available and deadlifts are my favorite excercise.
So I could be a lot bigger than I am if I wanted to. It is not a matter of underachieving when you reach a point that you feel is optimum and deciding not to go further.
What has happened is I have challenged the more is better mentality. Which is the cornerstone of all modern physique competitions. ie If Arnold looked great at 240 then Ronnie Coleman looks way greater at 285 even though he looks like he is ready to give birth and breast feed.
The fitness competitions are billed as not being the kind of freak show that the bodybuilding competitions have become, but in their own way they have.
I usually don’t pay much attention to the “Strong Words” of the day, but today it’s pretty good.
“If you are pained by external things, it is not they that disturb you, but your own judgment of them. And it is in your power to wipe out that judgment now.�??Marcus Aurelius Antoninus”
Look dude, all you have to add is a little “IMO” after every statement where you express your opinion, and the opinion has more than a little chance of offending a significant portion of readers reading your material. Something like this:
Sifu: Bodybuilders are stupid, self-absorbed, and overcompensating for something. IMO.
We: Thou art entitled to thy opinion, wise brah!
Sifu: Figure chicks look gross. IMO.
We: Your opinion, opinionated brah!
Sifu: More than 200 pounds of lean mass is unfunctional and useless. IMO.
We: Your opinion, noble brah!
Sifu: A penis more than 2 inches erect is unfunctional and unnecessary. IMO.
We: Your opinion, little brah!
See how everything works much better…imo!
[quote]Sifu wrote:
What has happened is I have challenged the more is better mentality. Which is the cornerstone of all modern physique competitions. ie If Arnold looked great at 240 then Ronnie Coleman looks way greater at 285 even though he looks like he is ready to give birth and breast feed.
The fitness competitions are billed as not being the kind of freak show that the bodybuilding competitions have become, but in their own way they have.
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too be honest I prefer my woman with a bit of curve, not veins etc
however there dedication is actually going to lend in there favour, if she came up too me I wouldn’t knock it back.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
Okay, heres my opinion.
Keep in mind i’ve never been close enough to a fake breast to comment on touch/feel/movement and the like. [/quote]
I’ve been so close that I thought a girl had a ring of freckles aroune her nipples, then I realized it wasn’t freckles but her areola’s were so stretched so tight that they were thinning out at the edges. She had a nice body too because she had done gymnastics all her life but her breasts were a little distorted. [quote]
Making blanket statements that cover a large group of people is almost ALWAYS going to leave you with a ton of holes. Saying, “man figure competitors looks stupid with fake tits” can easily be countered with a bunch of people that surely DONT look stupid with their brand new boobs.
But, lets take a look at this girl. I’m sure this is what the OP was refering to when he made this thread, and I’ll try to convey his message in a less assholey way.
http://www.T-Nation.com/forum_images/a/2/a2e9e-Nena_Cortes.jpg [/quote]
I am probably going to stir up some shit with this one, but she looks good. Those implants are spaced wide though and do look obvious. I would like to see what she looks like with a little more bodyfat. A before shot would be interesting to see.
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Obviously having a body like that takes hard work, and a lot of time and effort, but personally her implants look down right silly.
Maybe they don’t look so bad when her bodyfats higher, maybe the do, who knows, the OP was simply saying that he does not like the way they look, although I’m sure many of the people here do. It would be pretty easy to find many cases of implants looking good, and bad.
Personally if I had breast implants, and they truly were just for me, as most of the people in this thread are claiming, I wouldn’t be nearly as defensive when some random guy on the internet makes a thread stating his opinion on them. Thats just me.
Also, to make the blanket statement that women either do, or do not, get their implants for men, other women, or themselves, is also a bit silly. Different people get them for different reasons, and I tend to agree that it isnt “right” that some women feel pressured by “society” to get them.
As for the thread being pointless, yep, it is. But thats why its in the get a life section. [/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That they care about the subject matter?
That could be true too. But why even continue arguing with someone after making it perfectly clear that you couldn’t care less what they think? It gets to the point where people start to wonder who they’re trying to convince. Him (sifu, etc.)? Or themselves?
Maybe you should stop wondering and just ask. Sifu insulted quite a few women on this forum with his posts here and you think they shouldn’t feel anything?
WTf?[/quote]
X you are one of the wiser, cooler people on this board, I do respect your opinions and your chivalry. I was untactfully blunt to the point of being rude. I am sorry ladies.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
JohnnyNinja wrote:
Way to miss the point Professor X. If there was any anti muscle size bashing coming from Sifu, it must have been so minimal and irrelevant in a thread concerning fake breasts on figure competitors, a thread with very big and obvious negative opinions concerning the very said thing;
I must have missed the muscle bashing (concerning mass), seeing as how it wasn’t relevant. If that is what you want to focus on and argue against in this very thread (as opposed to the many many threads where such an argument makes sense), I won’t tell you otherwise. You obviously will do what you want.
But it has no pertinence to my post and very little to no pertinence to this thread as a whole. You chose to see it how you wish. I suggested bashing Sifu on his weak argument in context to the thread at hand. But most of you here seemingly prefer to just bash. So be it, I’m done. I gave my opinion.
His posts about how his friends look funny with big muscles was enough to imply his stance on the issue. Yes, it does appear you missed something.[/quote]
Actually it was mainly one friend who started taking Dianabol and Anadrol50 in high school. He’s 5’5" his brothers are 6’. It’s mainly my friends who say the most shit about him and that started after my other roommates found his stash of transvestite porn and he stole a bunch of my stuff.
But surely you have heard the Napolean complex remark about bodybuilders who are under 5’8" and look like a fireplug.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
randman wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Obviously having a body like that takes hard work, and a lot of time and effort, but personally her implants look down right silly.
Her implants look down right silly??? Are you kidding me? I’d be all over that shit. You sure you have functioning equipment down there?
I am willing to bet that if she came up to you and set “let’s fuck” and while you leaped at the chance and was doing the deed and she said “play with my boobies” I’m sure the last thing out of your mouth would be as to how silly her implants look.
You’d be bragging to all of your buddies after that you just banged the hottest chick you’ve ever have or will have laid your hands on. Puhleeze.
Beat me to it. She’s hot as hell. [/quote]
Seriously. She’s ridiculous!! Ridiculously HOT! Good Lord, look at her! How freaking impressive.
I HAVE to wonder if the differences in all of our views is the inability to separate sexuality from athleticism? It’s not always about who is the most fuckable. I for one enjoy looking at women (and men) and appreciating their physiques and the time they have spent on them!!
just a thought
[quote]randman wrote:
Sifu wrote:
randman wrote:
Sifu wrote:
randman wrote:
Sifu wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Michele C wrote:
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It’s like being born with a small penis (like you for instance). If there was a safe surgery to increase it to a normal size that would complement the rest of your physique assuming you had any muscle wouldn’t you do it? In your case the answer is no cuz you don’t have any appreciable muscle mass either.
Okay I will stop the psychoanalysis of the ladies. Instead I’ll analize your fixation with my penis and desire to see my physique photos. I am not sending you photos of either so you are going to have to cruise somewhere else.
I find your stated interests in my anatomy very creepy especially when I look at your spanking Barney avatar. Did you get that with a NAMBLA membership?
Great comeback…ummm, maybe not so much.[/quote]
Thanks for having a sense of humor. Because I was kidding.
Here is a reward for being a good sport.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
Being so fit that you have to get surgery to compensate for it seems to be a contradiction.
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I was trying to stay out of this shitstorm, but this point does make sense to me.
