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In a street fight, the only thing going through your mind should be this, “IM ABOUT TO END THIS BULLSHIT AND BEAT THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOWN!!!”

You NEVER want to give your oppenent nor his friends the chance to catch you off guard, and try your best to catch HIM off guard.
You can do this many different ways: pretend that you are a lame; you could even pretend that you are a boxer, even though you know karate. But really, if you got heart and an animal instinct, even without any particular training, you’ll do just fine against any ‘average’ fighter.

ps, i agree that grappling should be avoided and that it should be left more for ‘sport’

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Yeah well my dad can beat up your dad!

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yeah well…im rubber and your glue, whatever u say…i cant finish it. i did in fact pass grade 1.

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maybe it’s just me, but every fight I’ve been in that I didn’t either knock the guy out or hit him hard enough that he realized it was a bad idea to continue ended up on the ground. When that happens, all hell breaks loose. Anything at that point is a weapon[cinder blocks, bricks, rocks, sticks,etc…]and his boy’s have no problem beating the shit outta you cause they can. Take it from someone who when they were 15 got drunk, went to a party, got in a fight&knocked a guy out then woke up some 20 min later laying next to a fire hydrant missing 4 teeth. If you CAN avoid it, DO.

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[quote]okuma wrote:
i don’t think that would be a good idea, the best thing on a fight, is to go for it first, you never loose… if the guy has a knife or a weapon, (if you feel confident enough of your abilities)… focus on the weapon, approach the guy/girl so you limit there range of motion, so much, he wont be able to swing or stab you+ this has to be coupled with a grappling movement, if not, youll end up in the hospital LOL
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If he has a weapon, you need to focus on getting the Hell out of there. I myself have used a weapon simply as a ploy before. I hold something (knife, pipe, whatever) in my left hand (I’m right handed) and when jackass focuses on my left arm I get a clean temple shot in with my right hand.

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dear god,ground is your worst enemy,and heres why

this guy i didnt even know(typical school BS)comes and spears me from behind,so as im runnin with him i managed to to elbow him in the side of the head,he landed face first and i dont believe ive ever turned around faster.he was on the ground for a good 2-3 mins before it got broken up,and i had to pay a hefty hospital bill.so basically what im saying is:if YOU go down first and he gets on top,unless he’s just a light guy your face WILL get smashed,its just one if those little facts.ive been there and couldnt chew right for a few days,so like everyone is saying,feet=good ground=BAD

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Well I think at this point this dead horse has been beaten to the preverbial pulp. I commend those that are men enough to walk away for legal, health and moral reasons.

I also beleive that there will unfortunately be people who will not see the big picture and wind up ruining their lives as well as others IE family, friends, and the lives of their oponants.

As sad as this maybe it is an unwavering truth that is unfortunately part of our social/cultural landscape.

If I may recommend two books The Gift of Fear and Protecting the Gift both by Gavin Debecker if you are a learned person who is open to the idea that there is alot to be said about doing the right thing and listen to you own instinct then you will appreciate these books. If not at least it is a veiw from the other side.

last but not least if street fighting is something that is being run into alot maybe the question to be asked isn’t what is the best art or move to make but “where the hell am I hanging out at?” “Why am I here?” and “Why am I associating with this group?”

Again stay Safe do the right thing.

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Alright I read the first front page, and most of the posts on the second page. First thing first…don’t ask yourself…does he have weapon, do i have weapon blah blah blah…buddy its a fight…THERE IS two things though: 1) its a setup fight as in…lets fight after school, or wherever the fuck your going to fight and 2) if you just meet some guys and they wanna brawl…for the set up fight…theres TONS of kids wathcing…so that means bring your friends, he brings his friends, then you have the spectators…and just make the rule…no1 jump in…if people jump in…then you have one nice big brawl that looks sweet. SECOND thing is…if you dont know the guy…he means business…you have a weapon…USE THAT FUCKING THING…he could have a weapon so better you to get him first…ALSO after that you dont know the guy anyway and he started shit…so you just walk. If your just gonna fight…if you get him on the ground…stomp on his face, or kick him in the head as hard as you can. This WILL stop the fight. Trust me. As far as fighting goes…you could totally dominate your oppenent…last fight i got into i didnt get ONE hit on me…and the guy was 19 and I was 15 at the time…I also threw him on top of the hood of the car with a family in the car and started poundin away but other than that…take that advice above…theres no rules in street fights when you dont know the person…

dl-

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Don’t get drunk and fight. Always have a weapon on you…pipe/knife…you wouldnt believe how easy it is to fend off 3 or 4 guys just by having a good ol knife. and act crazy as fuck…if your naturally like that…all the best…strike fear into the hearts of men that want to play…

dl-

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Best street fighting art would be those of the Israelis. Either straight Krav Maga, or a hybrid like Haganah.

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[quote]Mastermind wrote:
To Combat Medics list of targets I add xiphoid and ears. If your opponent cannot breath he cannot fight. And a good shot to the ear will completely disorient anyone.

Rolo.[/quote]

Just dont miss and hit him in his temple.

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You want to win fights? Be fast.

One time (over a year ago, so I didnt have my liscense) I was walking my GF home and we noticed we were being followed. Anyway, it was only about 4 blocks so we just kinda walked faster and kept an eye out. (unfortunately, neither of us had our cell phones on us.) So we saw this car drive by us about 4 times in 2 blocks (which is when we noticed them. Then we didnt see them again) So me being the genious I was, I dropped her off, told her to lock her doors, and I started running back to my friends house… Where I was spending the night.

So anyway, once I reached the first corner, I saw the car again. Started running a little faster, at the corner of the end of the second block and the beginning of the 3rd, the car made a sharp right trying to get in my way. I ran around it and one kid got out of the car. I started sprinting and after about a block I out-ran the kid… the car came and picked him up to follow me again. By this moment, I was outside of my friends house knocking on the door frantically (and he could see it was me, theres a window right near the front door). Anyway, I’m standing on his porch and 5 kids come out of the car. My friend (with 3 other guys who were there) answer the door. My friend reaches in his closet and hands me a baseball bat and grabs one for himself. The 4 of us stood on his porch with 2 bats. They ran away like little bitches. (although I didnt have to fight, haha)

Anyway, the moral of the story is… Whenever you can avoid a fight, do it. You never know what will happen. Had I not been able to outrun those kids, I would have been seriously fucked up. The next weekend, there was a report of kids from the town over jumping a few kids. A couple were just beaten, but two ended up in the hospital. Never found out who the cocksuckers were, but I know if I had found out the hard way, I would have had my ass handed to me.

[quote]I think your 3 apply to adult life but I have a feeling this is a kid and fighting in highschool can be about respect and self preservation. Not just life or death. I feel that kids need to be able to fight to some extent. It is an important part of growing up.
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I kind of disagree with this. Out of curiousity, how old are you? I’m a senior in high school. The above experience was in my junior year. Although this was the scariest run in, there have been a few other times where I could have gotten into a fight. Many times, I would have won. The only real time I would feel the NEED to get into a fight was if someone was putting me, my brothers, or my girlfriend in any sort of danger.
And even in these situations, pride isnt an issue. A punch to the nose, ear, or throat to stun them… a kick to the knee, a knee to the ribs and an uppercut would leave me enough time to get the fuck out of there.

Its not like I would stand there as a boxer would in a ring. I’d get the fuck in there, do what I had to do, and get the fuck out. No pride involved. Its too bad that many kids these days dont think this way. Its stupid, really, to get into a fight for “machoness”. It also shows a lack of self control.

Anyway, ramblings over.

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I think the dude was asking about normal, throw-down-over-some-stupid-shit fights, and, as the master of stupid shit, I am well versed in these occasions.

I am quite tired of the martial arts backers throwing out that grappling is not true to life self defense, is just sport fighting, will not work against multiple opponents, etc. etc. Plain and simple, when I take you down, if you are not skillful on the ground, I am going to beat the shit out of you. Of course it is better to be well rounded. Of course a throat strike is very debilating. None of this does you any good if you are put on your back and can’t function there.

How many of you have practiced pushing someone’s eye in? Or hitting someone in the throat? At full speed with an opponent that is defending you? Obviously it is not something you can practice, grappling, however, does go full speed. I’m not saying these “techniques” are useless,it’s just that grappling translates better because it is something that can be practiced all out, in as close to a real situation as you can get, that is, an opponent moving at full speed.

I got into a fight with some guy at the bar about two years ago who told me right before we were about to throw down that he was a Muy Thai practitioner of over eight years and something something about whatever Muy Thai does, I was like thanks for that info buddy, not going for a double in this situation, but a clinch and a hip toss later I was pounding him out.

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I got a couple of videos on my computer by Bas Rutten about defending yourself in certain situations. He outlines some very effective moves, but it looks like you’d need some practice with some of them. He advocates a lot of groin strikes though its quite funny.

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[quote]slimjim wrote:
I think the dude was asking about normal, throw-down-over-some-stupid-shit fights, and, as the master of stupid shit, I am well versed in these occasions.

I am quite tired of the martial arts backers throwing out that grappling is not true to life self defense, is just sport fighting, will not work against multiple opponents, etc. etc. Plain and simple, when I take you down, if you are not skillful on the ground, I am going to beat the shit out of you. Of course it is better to be well rounded. Of course a throat strike is very debilating. None of this does you any good if you are put on your back and can’t function there.

How many of you have practiced pushing someone’s eye in? Or hitting someone in the throat? At full speed with an opponent that is defending you? Obviously it is not something you can practice, grappling, however, does go full speed. I’m not saying these “techniques” are useless,it’s just that grappling translates better because it is something that can be practiced all out, in as close to a real situation as you can get, that is, an opponent moving at full speed.

I got into a fight with some guy at the bar about two years ago who told me right before we were about to throw down that he was a Muy Thai practitioner of over eight years and something something about whatever Muy Thai does, I was like thanks for that info buddy, not going for a double in this situation, but a clinch and a hip toss later I was pounding him out.[/quote]

i agree.
i like the argument about multiple attackers.i got news for ya,if it’s 3-4 on one you’re most likely gonna get it anyhow.i don’t understand why ppl think staying on your feet is going to keep ppl off of you.this ain’t the movies where your in the middle and one fool comes at you,gets hit,goes down,then comes another.

and never give up any info if you have a background.

as a striker,i would always view someone as a ground fighter,and i would be on the move.there aren’t a ton of muaythai fighters running around but there is a boatload of ex highschool wrestlers.

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  1. Escape if Possible
  2. Learn “in fighting”
  3. Learn Ground Fighting
  4. If your outnumbered, hurt who you can as fast as you can. Break the first ones arm, go from there.

Working in state prisons, I’m alwasy outnumbered. Usually if you give one a serious injury, the others will get apprehensive about messing with you. In a crowd, your going to get it anyway so hurt somebody so you wont be alone. Make sure your defending yourself so you can have a good defence with the law enforcement and judicial system. This is from my experience, not an ideal that I though of or someone elses opinion.

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I agree with slimjim. You must be well rounded and be able to handle yourself standing as well as on the deck. If you find yourself on the ground you sure as hell better know how to handle yourself or else you will get fucked up. By his fist or his friends boot.

Front kicks are great for keeping someone at distance and destroying thier knees and groin. Practice your foot work and learn a good defensive stance.Be able to know your striking ranges ie. from where to kick, punch, elbow. If you are close obviously elbows,knees,headbutts,uppercuts and hooks are pretty lethal. Always be aware of your surroundings, be aware of your exit areas and weapons of opportunity (bottles,poolsticks,chairs and the list goes on).

My all-time favorite is if you have a something in your hands ( drink, food, coat)throw it at his face. He will automaticly guard his face. When he does it will give you a second to either run away or close the gap and put you fist or elbow thorugh his fucking skull. When you do punch or kick or elbow aim for the back of whatever it is you are punching or kicking, meaning punch through his face not at it. Fights never turn out pretty and people can get killed or harmed for life. But prepare yourself for the worst possible situation and mentaly put yourself those situations and figure a way out of them or to win them.

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Multiple attackers? Run.

One attacker? Walk away if possible Jail is nothing you will like, and the hospital is even worse.

Usually no one “wins” a fight.

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Where I am if you go to the ground during a fight you will get kicked in the head. If the other person gets up or if their buddy jumps in you will get fucked over if you are on the ground.

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[quote]Nightwing1 wrote:
Hey wats ups everybody, I’ve a question and I want some peoples advice. Now in a fight, a street fight to be more exact would it be good for me to try a double leg shot on a guy? [/quote]

Sniper from the roof across the street.