[quote]B0nzz wrote:
I would like to see Alfa-F and Bill have a debate over training protocols. Or actually anything…
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LOL!
The only anything I could possibly take Bill Roberts on is a 100 meters butterfly race.
And if he should have been a butterfly swimming champion, amongst all the things he has mastered including playing the piano, I will be left chasing his surf.
: D
I am a poor swimmer. Very inefficient.
The only way I can swim fairly efficiently is when completely submerged and staying that way. But sooner or later, unfortunately, air is required and that completely screws up my swimming.
[quote]snf_05 wrote:
My caloric intake is now right now (1200) because I’m just trying to lose a little body fat and I’m pretty inactive at this point. I’ve been keeping my protein at about 40% of my diet.
If I do decide to take anything it won’t be for a few months. I want to get back in the gym full force. At the point that I decide to take something, I know I will have to increase my caloric intake. My diet is 90% clean right now.
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i have no opinions or knowledge on steroids and women…however…
a few days ago YOU just advised a 191 lb 5’1" woman who has never worked out and has high blood pressure to do split body part training and/or whole body, 5-6 x a week and EAT 1200 calories.
i suspect your knowledge about proper training and nutrition is as good as your knowledge of steroids.
wow- let us know how that 1200 cal diet and no activity works out for you…
[quote]talenaah wrote:
i have no opinions or knowledge on steroids
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Then get the fuck out of here. Seriously.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
talenaah wrote:
i have no opinions or knowledge on steroids
Then get the fuck out of here. Seriously.[/quote]
seriously- let me remove the ‘no opinions’ part…i should have said:
my opinion is that if one was wanting to do steroids, they would have a basic knowledge of training and nutrition. without that, then what is the point?
thanks…exiting now…
[quote]talenaah wrote:
snf_05 wrote:
My caloric intake is now right now (1200) because I’m just trying to lose a little body fat and I’m pretty inactive at this point. I’ve been keeping my protein at about 40% of my diet.
If I do decide to take anything it won’t be for a few months. I want to get back in the gym full force. At the point that I decide to take something, I know I will have to increase my caloric intake. My diet is 90% clean right now.
i have no opinions or knowledge on steroids and women…however…
a few days ago YOU just advised a 191 lb 5’1" woman who has never worked out and has high blood pressure to do split body part training and/or whole body, 5-6 x a week and EAT 1200 calories.
i suspect your knowledge about proper training and nutrition is as good as your knowledge of steroids.
wow- let us know how that 1200 cal diet and no activity works out for you…
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I guess you didn’t read the whole thread… I’ve actually been a trainer and fitness instructor for 3 years and have a B.S. in exercise science, while working as a health and wellness coordinator and completing a masters. Thanks for the encouraging words stronghold.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I am a poor swimmer. Very inefficient.
The only way I can swim fairly efficiently is when completely submerged and staying that way. But sooner or later, unfortunately, air is required and that completely screws up my swimming.[/quote]
LOL LOL, Bill!
ALWAYS accurate and scientific…that too, can screw up swimming! : D
I can finally return your kindness and advise you on something. Get these and you will have fun and overtake me:
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That would be cool! 
I had once thought – a long while back – that something that kept the feet together, as a dolphin’s fins stay together, would make more sense than the feet individually paddling, but there was nothing that did that that I knew of.
I bet the above thing would be great. Thanks!
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
That would be cool!
I had once thought – a long while back – that something that kept the feet together, as a dolphin’s fins stay together, would make more sense than the feet individually paddling, but there was nothing that did that that I knew of.
I bet the above thing would be great. Thanks![/quote]
They make something better than that actually, its just difficult to swim with.
Its a carbon fiber dolphin shaped fin on a pivoting joint.
http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/artificial-dolphin-fin-makes-champion-swimmers-out-of-laymen/
33 miles per hour on the water is pretty quick even for a boat, much less a human in the water.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
ubergreg wrote:
For males, there is some risk involved in using gear. For females, that risk is MUCH greater if you want to avoid virilization. Once you start noticing things like hair growth and voice deepening, it is usually too late as those effects typically don’t go away after the cycle is complete. Unless you don’t mind slightly becoming a man, you need to be VERY careful. I have this feeling that unless you are planning to become a competitive bodybuilder, the goals you have could probably be achieved without the use of anabolics.
She can’t go wrong with anavar and winstrol.
Did you read the whole thread or have you decided to start trolling the steroid forum as well now? [/quote]
I read the thread after I posted that and I’m not “trolling” anything. I’ve posted in steroids before. No harm in the comment I made.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
talenaah wrote:
i have no opinions or knowledge on steroids
Then get the fuck out of here. Seriously.[/quote]
As a layperson, she can still impeach the testimony of a learned elder on non-technical grounds.
Which is all she’s trying to do.
snf_05: Just take this as a complement but I must say that from what I can see in your profile pic (mind you it’s not a whole lot), you have a very nice physique - ideal really. Even your hair is very sexy. I hope that you continue to proceed with great caution.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
talenaah wrote:
i have no opinions or knowledge on steroids
Then get the fuck out of here. Seriously.
As a layperson, she can still impeach the testimony of a learned elder on non-technical grounds.
Which is all she’s trying to do.[/quote]
actually there is quite a bit of harm that can come from winstrol dosage in women (contrary to popular belief) it is responsible for alot of the “man like” voices in female BB today. (truly no offense intended its just one myth i wish people would stamp out)
I have to say. This thread took longer than I had expected to go to shit.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
That would be cool!
I had once thought – a long while back – that something that kept the feet together, as a dolphin’s fins stay together, would make more sense than the feet individually paddling, but there was nothing that did that that I knew of.
I bet the above thing would be great. Thanks!
They make something better than that actually, its just difficult to swim with.
Its a carbon fiber dolphin shaped fin on a pivoting joint.
http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/artificial-dolphin-fin-makes-champion-swimmers-out-of-laymen/
33 miles per hour on the water is pretty quick even for a boat, much less a human in the water.
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I’m guessing that is a typo and they mean 3.3 mph, as they say “twice as fast as Michael Phelps.”
But yet, I would think the claimed 80% efficiency should give better maximum speed than that, though nothing like 33 mph. That would take more hp, even with 100% efficiency, than the human body can sustain.
Or maybe they mean a long-term sustained 3.3 mph. That might be a reasonable figure for 80% efficiency, just as guesswork.
EDIT: I should have noticed that they have a link to their source. The original Scientific American article is at: Dolphin-Inspired Man-Made Fin Works Swimmingly - Scientific American
There, we learn that the 33 mph figure is NOT for this device, but for dolphins.
The figure given for humans with this device is 8 mph. I don’t know whether that is meant as a long-term sustained speed or something over a relatively short distance such as 100 meters.
But that’s astoundingly fast for swimming. Even if it is a sprint speed, I’d expect endurance speed to still be really something.
Ok Bill,
Did some research on nuclear magnetic resonance. Is this the kind of company I would be contacting?
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
If anyone seriously wants to do this, I would crush at least 50 mg worth of tablets into powder[/quote]
Bill, my “Anavar” is in powder capsules. The female steroid website said there was legitimate Anavar in powder form. I remained suspicious.[quote]
and dissolve into acetone,[/quote]
I this acetylacetone, acetone peroxide, any acetone/nail varnish?[quote]
filter out that which does not dissolve, and evaporate the acetone to yield whatever steroidal substance is dissolved in the tablet.[/quote] I am assuming I don’t need to do this if my substance is already in powder form, would that be correct? [quote]
After having these crystals or this powder, that would be what would be sent off for analysis.
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How do I proceed having an encapsulated powder substance?
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
I have to say. This thread took longer than I had expected to go to shit. [/quote]
You’d be surprised how long the steroid section can actually keep the discussion relevant and not resort to calling people ass-hats. This stems from the fact that morons and 16 year olds don’t usually care for our particular brand of medical/pharmaceutical discussions.
But I think most of what needs to be said in this topic has been said, so were kinda going off on tangents, like how to make Bill an amazing swimmer.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
I have to say. This thread took longer than I had expected to go to shit.
You’d be surprised how long the steroid section can actually keep the discussion relevant and not resort to calling people ass-hats. This stems from the fact that morons and 16 year olds don’t usually care for our particular brand of medical/pharmaceutical discussions.
But I think most of what needs to be said in this topic has been said, so were kinda going off on tangents, like how to make Bill an amazing swimmer.[/quote]
I want to hear more about how Anadrol is less virilizing than Anavar. That is so far contrary to what I have heard in the past.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Ok Bill,
Did some research on nuclear magnetic resonance. Is this the kind of company I would be contacting?
http://www.intertek.com/servicesdetail.aspx?id=3299
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The same procedure, but my impression of that company is that they want pharmaceutical clients and would be unlikely to do a single sample on a one-time basis, particularly for what wasn’t clearly an established firm.
Well, from the standpoint of utterly precise usage, Anavar is a proprietary trade name and was only a tablet. However, as with Dianabol, in practice people use the trade name for the substance or for any product containing only the substance.
There definitely is oxandrolone powder that is completely legitimate.
Just acetone, not other substances with acetone in the name. There may be nail varnishes which are only acetone, but I don’t know. There probably are many with other ingredients. Straight acetone can be found in hardware stores in the paint section or near the wood finishing products.
[quote]filter out that which does not dissolve, and evaporate the acetone to yield whatever steroidal substance is dissolved in the tablet. I am assuming I don’t need to do this if my substance is already in powder form, would that be correct?
After having these crystals or this powder, that would be what would be sent off for analysis.
How do I proceed having an encapsulated powder substance?[/quote]
Just by emptying the capsules and dissolving the contents in the acetone, in place of crushing tablets.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Westclock wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
I have to say. This thread took longer than I had expected to go to shit.
You’d be surprised how long the steroid section can actually keep the discussion relevant and not resort to calling people ass-hats. This stems from the fact that morons and 16 year olds don’t usually care for our particular brand of medical/pharmaceutical discussions.
But I think most of what needs to be said in this topic has been said, so were kinda going off on tangents, like how to make Bill an amazing swimmer.
I want to hear more about how Anadrol is less virilizing than Anavar. That is so far contrary to what I have heard in the past.[/quote]
Well, I am lazy today (or more accurately am about to head off to the gym) and so try: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
and search for (oxymetholone OR Anadrol) AND anemia
and among the very many things you will run into studies with large numbers of women and with inclusion of discussion of virilization and statistics on it.
From the bb’ing standpoint, I already told you and could only repeat the same.
As to why others say differently, it is from “reasoning” that since they consider Anadrol a harsh oral for men, or super-effective, that “therefore” it must be out of the question for women and powerfully virilizing, rather than on actual results.
Too many, when it comes to steroids and also to many other things, really never seem to ask themselves “just what is it that really shows that this is so, and if it were not so, are there things that would show that and have I checked them?” before announcing things. Nope, all it takes is sounding like it makes sense, to them, and there you have it, and there the world has it as a decree.
That is not to say that Anadrol should be considered safe as candy, either.