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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

Hi snf_05,

It is good to hear you are not thinking of doing this tomorrow.
Thank you for giving us a better picture into your physiological status.

Your birth control pill; was it a progesterone based pill, estrogen or a combined pill?
Did you have a period during the 5 years on the pill?
How do you know you ‘overused soy’ - can you give us a quantitative value?
You said you will be using a progesterone cream ‘again’. When did you use it and why did you stop?
Was the DHEA in injections or tablets and how much supplementation ( BBB and Bill Roberts have knowledge and experience in oral DHEA dosage, I think - I only have personal experience in injections )?
What are your sources of protein and fat now? How have you substituted your over reliance on soy?
What are your sources of fat?
Can you report any changes in water retention and sodium intake at particular times of the month?[/quote]

Alpha F:
The BC was an oral combination of estrogen/progestin and yes I had a regular monthly cycle.

As far as the soy problems, I’m allergic to dairy so I was consuming soy protein, soy milk, soy yogurt and pretty much anything I could find that was soy. I was previously on a progesterone cream, but the way that I take it, it begins at the beginning of the cycle and goes for 12 days, but since I’ve not had a cycle lately I’ve not used it. I will be seeing the Dr. about this.

The DHEA supplementation was oral. I was able to bring my blood work back into a normal range so I’ve not been taking that.

As far as diet goes, my protein sources are egg whites, chicken breasts, and salmon. My additional fat sources are avocado and olive or canola oil.

The only time I retain water is if I’ve consumed too much sodium, but my sodium intake is usually low (about 700 mg).

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Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers!

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[quote]snf_05 wrote:

Alpha F:
The BC was an oral combination of estrogen/progestin and yes I had a regular monthly cycle.

As far as the soy problems, I’m allergic to dairy so I was consuming soy protein, soy milk, soy yogurt and pretty much anything I could find that was soy. I was previously on a progesterone cream, but the way that I take it, it begins at the beginning of the cycle and goes for 12 days, but since I’ve not had a cycle lately I’ve not used it. I will be seeing the Dr. about this.[/quote]

May I ask why you were taking a progesterone cream if you were on a combined pill? How long did you run the cream along with the pill, and where did you get that protocol of using it during the follicular phase, was there a particular reason and by whose recommendation? [quote]

The DHEA supplementation was oral. I was able to bring my blood work back into a normal range so I’ve not been taking that.[/quote] That is great, at least this is back to normal. Has the normality been achieved recently? Also, do you know whether you are ok for:

B6
B5
B12
Zinc
Selenium
Magnesium
Potassium

[quote]

As far as diet goes, my protein sources are egg whites, chicken breasts, and salmon. My additional fat sources are avocado and olive or canola oil.[/quote]

I personally would replace the olive/canola oil with UDO’s Oil and CLA oil you can add to your food from cold ( don’t use it for cooking ). I would highly, highly recommend you add organ meat to your diet.
Highly.
Chicken hearts, chicken liver, lambs heart and liver, veal liver and heart and kidney specially. Ask the butcher to cut it for you if you don’t like the sight of it. When I eat organ meat I get red cheeks immediately and feel this little furnace inside. It is brilliant to balance hormonal deficiency. If you cannot eat red meat I understand but this would be your number one booster from my experience.
Also add quails eggs - make a salad with herbs and tomato and the UDO or CLA oil and it is delicious!
Add almonds, Brazil nuts and hazelnuts to your diet. You can make almond milk from blanched almonds ( very easy ) to compensate your need for milk.
Have you tried goat’ milk?
How about home made yogurt? I find I am allergic to wheat only if it is processed. When I was in Egypt I could eat bread freely with not side effects and I wondered why. I noticed the bread there went hard after 3 hours and the bread here stays soft for three weeks - that can’t be normal so my body wasn’t either, I guess.

[quote]

The only time I retain water is if I’ve consumed too much sodium, but my sodium intake is usually low (about 700 mg).[/quote]

I asked that with the sodium/potassium balance in mind: That affects a lot of women during the luteal phase of their period. At this point we should be trying to discern where you are hormonally and where you are coming from. Your profile says you are at 20% BF and you say you are not retaining water so it may not have anything to do with restoring sodium/potassium to aid fat loss. I used B12 and MIC injections successfully to offset fat gain ( and I it was real LARD, after the Anavar cycle ) from estrogen imbalance, but let’s look more into your situation first.

I may not be able to reply quickly, so bear with me.

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[quote]WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers![/quote]

Am I the only one that missed the part where the OP asked how to make her sex organs more appealing to some random perv on the internet?

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

Alpha F:

May I ask why you were taking a progesterone cream if you were on a combined pill? How long did you run the cream along with the pill, and where did you get that protocol of using it during the follicular phase, was there a particular reason and by whose recommendation?

I started taking the cream to regulate my cycle after getting off the pill and I had some blood tests done showing low progesterone. I don’t know a whole lot about this other than my dr. is highly against BC and she put me on the cream.

That is great, at least this is back to normal. Has the normality been achieved recently? Also, do you know whether you are ok for:

B6
B5
B12
Zinc
Selenium
Magnesium
Potassium

All of my vitamin and mineral levels are good. My DHEA was back to normal in June.

I personally would replace the olive/canola oil with UDO’s Oil and CLA oil you can add to your food from cold ( don’t use it for cooking ). I would highly, highly recommend you add organ meat to your diet.
Highly.
Chicken hearts, chicken liver, lambs heart and liver, veal liver and heart and kidney specially. Ask the butcher to cut it for you if you don’t like the sight of it. When I eat organ meat I get red cheeks immediately and feel this little furnace inside. It is brilliant to balance hormonal deficiency. If you cannot eat red meat I understand but this would be your number one booster from my experience.
Also add quails eggs - make a salad with herbs and tomato and the UDO or CLA oil and it is delicious!
Add almonds, Brazil nuts and hazelnuts to your diet. You can make almond milk from blanched almonds ( very easy ) to compensate your need for milk.
Have you tried goat’ milk?
How about home made yogurt? I find I am allergic to wheat only if it is processed. When I was in Egypt I could eat bread freely with not side effects and I wondered why. I noticed the bread there went hard after 3 hours and the bread here stays soft for three weeks - that can’t be normal so my body wasn’t either, I guess.

I’m going to have to get brave to try organ meat, but I’m up for anything. I’ve tried rice milk as a substitute and I’m unfortunately allergic to almonds. I love to cook and am always looking for new things to try so I’ll definitely give these things a shot.

I asked that with the sodium/potassium balance in mind: That affects a lot of women during the luteal phase of their period. At this point we should be trying to discern where you are hormonally and where you are coming from. Your profile says you are at 20% BF and you say you are not retaining water so it may not have anything to do with restoring sodium/potassium to aid fat loss. I used B12 and MIC injections successfully to offset fat gain ( and I it was real LARD, after the Anavar cycle ) from estrogen imbalance, but let’s look more into your situation first.

I may not be able to reply quickly, so bear with me.

[/quote]

Thanks for all of your help! I really appreciate it and it’s nice to get an answer that’s more than “well I’ve taken this so it could work for you”. My Dr. is a women’s health specialist and she is all about balancing hormones so I’ve had a lot of tests done and she had me do a few things in the past couple of years to get everything where it needs to be. If I decide to take anything I would like to be at 15% body fat before I do. Again, thanks for all of your help.

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Alpha F: THat last reply didn’t turn out the way I wanted it to look, but my responses are in there.

buckeye girl: My thoughts as well.

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[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers!

Am I the only one that missed the part where the OP asked how to make her sex organs more appealing to some random perv on the internet?[/quote]

Seriously, wtf is with that shit?

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers!

Am I the only one that missed the part where the OP asked how to make her sex organs more appealing to some random perv on the internet?

Seriously, wtf is with that shit? [/quote]

How often does one have the opportunity to profess his love for oversized clitorises?? I’m thinking this guy figured this was his best oppotunity in years. It’s hard to sound like a bigger tool bag though.

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[quote]WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers![/quote]

a good suck eh?

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I would like to see Alfa-F and Bill have a debate over training protocols. Or actually anything…

Them there be some learn-ed people…

B0nzz

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[quote]G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers!

a good suck eh?[/quote]

I was wondering when this was going to come up with a thread topic such as this. There is nothing wrong with a woman with a "large’ clitoris. I find it beautiful unique and sexy, (Huge fetish)

Go for it.
Just be wise.

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[quote]JonEightPackGuy wrote:
G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers!

a good suck eh?

I was wondering when this was going to come up with a thread topic such as this. There is nothing wrong with a woman with a "large’ clitoris. I find it beautiful unique and sexy, (Huge fetish)

Go for it.
Just be wise.[/quote]

You realize that the clit is the nerve cluster and such what would BECOME a penis were the fetus exposed to the test spike that produces a “male” body and brain.

I personally like my women unvirilized, and still feminine.

virilization is simply developing male traits, and I don’t usually like that in my females.

Developing psuedo-penises because of excessive virilization is kind of a turn off.

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[quote]ubergreg wrote:
For males, there is some risk involved in using gear. For females, that risk is MUCH greater if you want to avoid virilization. Once you start noticing things like hair growth and voice deepening, it is usually too late as those effects typically don’t go away after the cycle is complete. Unless you don’t mind slightly becoming a man, you need to be VERY careful. I have this feeling that unless you are planning to become a competitive bodybuilder, the goals you have could probably be achieved without the use of anabolics.[/quote]

She can’t go wrong with anavar and winstrol.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers!

Am I the only one that missed the part where the OP asked how to make her sex organs more appealing to some random perv on the internet?

Seriously, wtf is with that shit?

How often does one have the opportunity to profess his love for oversized clitorises?? I’m thinking this guy figured this was his best oppotunity in years. It’s hard to sound like a bigger tool bag though. [/quote]

Maybe I’ll start popping into random steroid threads to tell everyone how I find testicular atrophy sexy…

Seriously, I understand that this is a concern for women, but this certainly isn’t the place for men to show up and discuss their fetishes. Leave that in SAMA.

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haha. well, just ya know, virilization isn’t necessarily a bad thing! whereas deep voices and hairy backs are.

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[quote]Westclock wrote:
JonEightPackGuy wrote:
G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
WyldFlower wrote:
Hi,

I think virilized clitorises are well sexy. Well, within reason, so they are just there and good to suck on. Not liek properly looking like a dick, but a nicely virilized big clit is hot. However, the deep voices and hairyness and leathery skin is proper yuck and off putting - so avoid those. But go for a virlized clit. Maybe just apply Andractim to it on a nightly basis, and thats all you need to do.

Cheers!

a good suck eh?

I was wondering when this was going to come up with a thread topic such as this. There is nothing wrong with a woman with a "large’ clitoris. I find it beautiful unique and sexy, (Huge fetish)

Go for it.
Just be wise.

You realize that the clit is the nerve cluster and such what would BECOME a penis were the fetus exposed to the test spike that produces a “male” body and brain.

I personally like my women unvirilized, and still feminine.

virilization is simply developing male traits, and I don’t usually like that in my females.

Developing psuedo-penises because of excessive virilization is kind of a turn off.[/quote]

horses for courses innit.

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[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
ubergreg wrote:
For males, there is some risk involved in using gear. For females, that risk is MUCH greater if you want to avoid virilization. Once you start noticing things like hair growth and voice deepening, it is usually too late as those effects typically don’t go away after the cycle is complete. Unless you don’t mind slightly becoming a man, you need to be VERY careful. I have this feeling that unless you are planning to become a competitive bodybuilder, the goals you have could probably be achieved without the use of anabolics.

She can’t go wrong with anavar and winstrol.
[/quote]

Did you read the whole thread or have you decided to start trolling the steroid forum as well now?

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Follow WyldFlower’s posting history (or spend enough time in the steroid forum) and you’ll see that almost his entire time here consists of weird, trolling threads aimed at baiting the regulars, a pretty disturbing [homo-erotic?] obsession with Brook/JJ, and strange, random posts like the above. He even created a second account to pester JJ when he was put on the ignore list the first time.

He definitely has “internet issues.” Anyway, this thread doesn’t need to be derailed by this obsession with, ahem, large clitori, so to speak. It’s actually a pretty interesting thread, and if we could get it back on track, and get more of the females posting here, I think it would be pretty edifying for a lot of people.

I have never really tried to work out the math, but I notice that there is a pretty large “viewed” to “replied” ratio on the steroid forum. So I know there are a lot of people out there that are probably looking for information, and, as was mentioned earlier, if they want the soap opera, there are plenty of forums for that.

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Hopefully not an odd question, but what are the chances of Virilization leading to Sterilization on AAS?
That’s been my biggest fear for the lady to start a cycle. Cortes looking strong buddy! I’m engaged…
Great Thread… Been waiting for one of tehse for awhile… Cortes & BBB PM me if you find time I have questions about a training method…

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[quote]snf_05 wrote:

Thanks for all of your help! I really appreciate it and it’s nice to get an answer that’s more than “well I’ve taken this so it could work for you”. My Dr. is a women’s health specialist and she is all about balancing hormones so I’ve had a lot of tests done and she had me do a few things in the past couple of years to get everything where it needs to be. If I decide to take anything I would like to be at 15% body fat before I do. Again, thanks for all of your help.

[/quote]

You are welcome.
Good to know you have a doctor you can trust.
I have successfully reverted a very heavy, with blood clots, painful 7 day menstrual cycle post Anavar to a 3 day, light, water retention and pain free cycle.
For fat loss alone I recommend B12 and MIC injections stacked with HGH IV.
Stacking that with DHEA injections has contributed to fuller harder muscle and maybe added mass - however I did not run it long enough to be able to report any conclusive results.

Best of luck and keep training!