[quote]Donut62 wrote:
First off, anyone who thinks Tim is a walk over for Fedor is a delusional fool. He poses a lot of problems for any heavyweight. Fedor should win, and will be the rightful favorite, but Sylvia has a good chance here.
That said, this fight is awesome. Once again, we are moving back to where all the good heavyweight fights are outside the UFC. With Sylvia and Arlovski gone, Randy gone, Josh Barnett and Ben Rothwell floating out there, lot’s of good things can happen.[/quote]
Excatly. Sylvia may not be the most-popular fighter out there (although he did win back some fans with his last performance) but to give him no shot of beating Fedor is a bit foolish.
Like Donut said, Fedor will be the favorite, but Sylvia’s game does present a few problems for Fedor. I think it will be a very good fight.
[quote]Jin wrote:
It’s a shame Fedor’s debut to North American audiences is against one of the most boring lay-and-pray artists…ever. It’s a good thing Fedor is dangerous on the ground or we’d be subject to 3 rounds of what Timmah does best…dry-humping his opponents to victory.
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I’m not saying that Syliva is going to win. I think Fedor is a solid 3:1 favorite. But Tim is big, has a good jab, hits harder than hell, and knows how to use his size well. If the fight is in a cage, well then Tim has that going for him too. Also keep in mind that by the time the fight starts it will have been approximately 34 months since Fedor fought anyone with an approximate standing in the heavyweight division as Tim Sylvia. In that time Tim has faced many stylistic challenges and tough opponents and for the most part come out with the wins.
Fedor should be able to submit him early in the second round by my estimation, but stranger things have happened. Fedor has been caught hard by punches on several occasions, and I gaurantee you that a Syliva punch packs a hell of a lot more whallop than a Matt Lindland punch that still split his face open, or a Fujita punch that put him on queer street.
Please believe me that I cannot watch Syliva fights without groaning and screaming about how dull he is. Despite this, he is a terrific boxer with great reach, good power and very good form.
I train for MMA and know that Tim is really a very good fighter. Fedor’s skills in the clinch and his greco-roman throws are all but impossible with a guy that much bigger than you. You can clinch and damage, but clinch and throw would be hard; physics and center’s of gravity are against you.
My bet would place good good money on Fedor but play the odds and get some cash on Syliva. Greater upsets have happened.
Well, shit, Fedor took Semmy Schilt the hell down with no problem and kept him there, and Semmy’s 6’11" and 265! It seems like with the bigger guys (like Semmy and HMC) Fedor doesn’t mind if the takedown involves getting them off-balance enough for them to kind of “fall on him,” just as long as he gets them down. And his fight with Schilt was Fedor’s first Pride fight – he’s better now.
I don’t see why he’d have any problem doing the same with Tim Sylvia. Fedor is so freaking fast I don’t see him having a problem moving inside and getting into the clinch with Tim. Yes, he’ll probably eat a couple of shots here or there, but he’ll take Tim down. I’m pretty sure of it. And then he’ll keep him there.
[quote]Jin wrote:
It’s a shame Fedor’s debut to North American audiences is against one of the most boring lay-and-pray artists…ever. It’s a good thing Fedor is dangerous on the ground or we’d be subject to 3 rounds of what Timmah does best…dry-humping his opponents to victory.
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speaking of dry-humping, that’s some avatar you’ve got there.
[quote]knutes101 wrote:
Please believe me that I cannot watch Syliva fights without groaning and screaming about how dull he is. Despite this, he is a terrific boxer with great reach, good power and very good form.
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Terrific boxer? No, I wouldn’t go that far. Good at using his reach and decent boxing skills, yeah I would agree with that.
Randy was able to take Tim down numerous times in their fight, some of which were clinch/greco takedowns. It is definitely nowhere near impossible to execute such takedowns on a bigger opponent, especially if you are much more skilled than them.
“Brutal KO silences the gym” on TUF tonight.
I like this step of the guys fighting to get on the show.
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TUF?? Oh, you mean the Quinton Rampage Jackson comedy hour?
Anyone else catch Dana’s comments about hating “boring” fighters? You mean like the previous UFC HW Champ? I hate Dana White more every time he talks. I wish someone would hit that chubby putz in the face with a brick.
I hope tim wins I’m tired of hearing how unbeatable fedor is and tim does have decent chance. Look no one thought giants would win either, so you never know.
[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
Jin wrote:
It’s a shame Fedor’s debut to North American audiences is against one of the most boring lay-and-pray artists…ever.
Actually Fedor’s NA debut was against Mark Coleman in Pride’s first US show.[/quote]
You’re right, but Pride wasn’t exactly well-known outside of the more serious fans when that fight happened…MMA = UFC to the majority of people. What I meant was that this is Fedor’s debut to the mainstream, as everyone should know who Tim Sylvia is, and it’s a damn shame that if Timmah gets his way and lays on top of him for the whole fight, everyone’s first impression of Fedor will be that of just another boring heavyweight they’ve never heard of.
Fedor’s skills in the clinch and his greco-roman throws are all but impossible with a guy that much bigger than you. You can clinch and damage, but clinch and throw would be hard; physics and center’s of gravity are against you.
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1- sambo
2- um. fedor can use it against any diety you’d like to name.
