Thank the gods.
this is more then just speculation
with any luck we might see Fedor in a few months demolish the UFC heavyweigths and “officially” claim his rightful throne.
Dana White’s obsessive Pride-hate is getting ridiculous:
[quote]
UFC president Dana White was vocal in pinning the blame on Emelianenko’s team, saying he never once spoke or met with the fighter. Would the head of the UFC be willing to enter the Fedor fray again? “Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat,” says White. “People think he’s the best�??I don’t, not even close. But if it’s somehow possible, I would make it happen.”[/quote]
Bonus question:
Which 4 UFC Fights you’d like Fedor to see in?
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dana White’s obsessive Pride-hate is getting ridiculous:
UFC president Dana White was vocal in pinning the blame on Emelianenko’s team, saying he never once spoke or met with the fighter. Would the head of the UFC be willing to enter the Fedor fray again? “Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat,” says White. “People think he’s the best�??I don’t, not even close. But if it’s somehow possible, I would make it happen.”
Bonus question:
Which 4 UFC Fights you’d like Fedor to see in? [/quote]
I think the UFC has done pretty well against the best of Pride. A couple Pride guys came in and became champs. Others came in and got whupped.
I think this is just Fedor’s way clearing his plate so he can fight in DREAM.
M-1 Global was just a scheme cooked up by Vadim Finklestein to line his pockets while waiting for the Japanese MMA scene to sort itself out. Vadim never had any intention of letting Fedor fight for M-1. He just used them as go-between to book fights for Fedor in other organizations. As soon as M-1 started making noise about holding their own event and using Fedor on the card, Finklestein scuttled the ship, kept their money, and bolted to Japan.
The guy is a slimebag. He screwed Pride (the Inoki Bom Ba Ya fiasco), he tried to screw the UFC, and now he has screwed M-1. It’s only a matter of time before he plays DREAM and WVR against one another and screws them too.
I think the world of Fedor, but his manager is as sleazy as they come. I just hope that Finklestein isn’t screwing Fedor the same way he screws everyone else.
Finkelstein is a fucking scum bag. The guy is connected out the ass to the Russian underworld and oligarchs, I wouldn’t be surprised who he tries to fuck over next.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dana White’s obsessive Pride-hate is getting ridiculous:
UFC president Dana White was vocal in pinning the blame on Emelianenko’s team, saying he never once spoke or met with the fighter. Would the head of the UFC be willing to enter the Fedor fray again? “Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat,” says White. “People think he’s the best�??I don’t, not even close. But if it’s somehow possible, I would make it happen.”
Bonus question:
Which 4 UFC Fights you’d like Fedor to see in? [/quote]
Chuck is now drinking Dana’s sperm as well:
It’s funny that Dana doesn’t think Fedor is the best, when he has beat the hell out of big Nog 3 times. Who is the best then Dana? I wouldn’t be surprised if he said himself.
Dana White should spend more time filtering the filth in his organization than he does polishing his shinny bald dome.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dana White’s obsessive Pride-hate is getting ridiculous:
UFC president Dana White was vocal in pinning the blame on Emelianenko’s team, saying he never once spoke or met with the fighter. Would the head of the UFC be willing to enter the Fedor fray again? “Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat,” says White. “People think he’s the best�??I don’t, not even close. But if it’s somehow possible, I would make it happen.”
Bonus question:
Which 4 UFC Fights you’d like Fedor to see in? [/quote]
I’ll be the first to answer your bonus question:
Fedor vs. Tim Sylvia
Fedor vs. Cro cop 2 (I know cro cop hasn’t been spectacular lately, but I’d think he’d get up for a fedor rematch)
Fedor vs. Randy
Fedor vs. Dana White (kick his ass, Fedor)
Fedor vs. Arlovski
Fedor vs. Mirko “Cro Cop”
Fedor vs. Grizzly bear
Fedor vs. Optimus Prime
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Bonus question:
Which 4 UFC Fights you’d like Fedor to see in? [/quote]
Fedor vs Randy 1
Fedor vs Randy 2
Fedor vs Randy 3 (unless the same guy wins teh first two)
Fedor vs Tim Sylvia - I just want to see the carnage/execution
Fedor vs Mir
Fedor vs Congo
Fedor vs Lesnar
Fedor vs Liddell
Fedor vs mini Ditka
Hey, why not?
Fedor vs every UFC heavyweight
Fedor and Tito Ortiz vs Dana White and Mike Goldberg in a tag team match
Fedor vs random drunk guys in the crowd
Fedor vs Jesus
Fedor vs a pack of 5 year old zombies
Undercard is Ozzy Osbourne vs a bag of popcorn
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dana White’s obsessive Pride-hate is getting ridiculous:
UFC president Dana White was vocal in pinning the blame on Emelianenko’s team, saying he never once spoke or met with the fighter. Would the head of the UFC be willing to enter the Fedor fray again? “Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat,” says White. “People think he’s the best�??I don’t, not even close. But if it’s somehow possible, I would make it happen.”
Bonus question:
Which 4 UFC Fights you’d like Fedor to see in?
I think the UFC has done pretty well against the best of Pride. A couple Pride guys came in and became champs. Others came in and got whupped. [/quote]
This is a little reductionist in my opinion. Silva came in and cleaned out the UFC’s middleweight division. Rampage came in a beat the guy the UFC was heralding as the greatest fight in the world (Chuck) Meanwhile Crocop has looked like a shell of his former self. Arlovski beat Werdum by running away from him, Werdum, in turn, submitted Gonzaga who everybody was heralding as the next great heavyweight.
Other than that, Sokuju and Nakamaru ran into the wrecking ball that is Ryoto Machida, and it seems like the UFC picked up none of Pride’s good lightweights.
I’ve always said that the top guys in the UFC would be on par with the top guys in Pride. The difference between the two was the depth of talent Pride had. The UFC is looking pretty deep, but all the matchups at heavyweight are pretty problematic:
Werdum has lost to Arlovski. Sylvia is a boring motherfucker who just lost to Nog. Vera’s last fight was a loss to Sylvia. Kongo just lost to herring who has lost to Nog three fights in a row. Jake Obrien got punished by Arlovski who has lost two out of three to Sylvia. Couture is out in limbo. Fedor is…who knows. Josh Barnett who is, in my opinion, the second best Heavyweight in the world is running around trying to find an organization to fight in.
Mark Hunt is doing Japanese wrasslin. Of all the divisions that I felt Pride’s disintegration would fix, the HW picture just keeps getting more muddled.
Anyways, out of the four divisions Pride offered, former Pride fighters now own three out of the four UFC belts. Nog, Rampage, and Silva.
[quote]Contrl wrote:
Fedor vs. Optimus Prime[/quote]
I’d Actually pay to see that on Pay-Per-View.
HaHaHa
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
Fedor vs every UFC heavyweight
Fedor and Tito Ortiz vs Dana White and Mike Goldberg in a tag team match
Fedor vs random drunk guys in the crowd
Fedor vs Jesus
Fedor vs a pack of 5 year old zombies
Undercard is Ozzy Osbourne vs a bag of popcorn
[/quote]
I’ve got Ozzy on the 2nd round via knee-bar.
[quote]slimjim wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dana White’s obsessive Pride-hate is getting ridiculous:
UFC president Dana White was vocal in pinning the blame on Emelianenko’s team, saying he never once spoke or met with the fighter. Would the head of the UFC be willing to enter the Fedor fray again? “Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat,” says White. “People think he’s the best�??I don’t, not even close. But if it’s somehow possible, I would make it happen.”
Bonus question:
Which 4 UFC Fights you’d like Fedor to see in?
I think the UFC has done pretty well against the best of Pride. A couple Pride guys came in and became champs. Others came in and got whupped.
This is a little reductionist in my opinion. Silva came in and cleaned out the UFC’s middleweight division. Rampage came in a beat the guy the UFC was heralding as the greatest fight in the world (Chuck) Meanwhile Crocop has looked like a shell of his former self. Arlovski beat Werdum by running away from him, Werdum, in turn, submitted Gonzaga who everybody was heralding as the next great heavyweight.
Other than that, Sokuju and Nakamaru ran into the wrecking ball that is Ryoto Machida, and it seems like the UFC picked up none of Pride’s good lightweights.
I’ve always said that the top guys in the UFC would be on par with the top guys in Pride. The difference between the two was the depth of talent Pride had.[/quote]
Plus we haven’t seen what the UFC guys could do under PRIDE rules. I would give Randy a good chance of beating fedor in a cage (I’d still pick Fedor though) but in a ring Randy would be far less competitive.
I think it’s fucking silly that the UFC doesn’t pick up Josh Barnett, whom they could desperately use, and it seems it’s mainly due to Dana White having some personal beef with the guy. (That makes case number 967 of Dana having a beef with a good fighter and therefore precluding him from fighting in the UFC).
Dana’s (public) excuse for not being interested in Barnett is that he tested positive for steroids at one point. Well, so did Tim Sylvia – and he was allowed right back in the UFC. So did Sean Sherk – and he’s allowed right back in the UFC.
WTF?! Barnett is a free agent. Pick him up!
[quote]Damici wrote:
I think it’s fucking silly that the UFC doesn’t pick up Josh Barnett, whom they could desperately use, and it seems it’s mainly due to Dana White having some personal beef with the guy.[/quote]
I’d argue it is the other way around.
Barnett has had beef with just about every promotion he has fought for. Barnett had so many problems with Pride that he said in a recent interview he would never fight for DREAM because there are too many PrideFC executives in the organization. Josh is just a difficult guy for promoters to work with. There wasn’t exactly a mad dash by other promoters to secure his services.
Also, Dana doesn’t give a darn about Josh getting popped for steroids. As you have pointed out, he has allowed plenty of guys who pissed hot to come back into the organization. Dana’s problems with Barnett were the result of a contract dispute. The flunked whiz quiz was merely the catalyst that allowed the UFC to send him packing.
IMO, competing in MMA is not a high priority for Josh. I think he enjoys the Japanese pro wrestling gig just as much, if not more, than he enjoys MMA. He’d be perfectly happy telling every MMA promoter to go screw themselves and spend the rest of his days doing the puroresu thing.
[quote]slimjim wrote:
Anyways, out of the four divisions Pride offered, former Pride fighters now own three out of the four UFC belts. Nog, Rampage, and Silva.[/quote]
UFC has 5 belts. (Actually 7 due to interim BS).
[quote]slimjim wrote:
Anyways, out of the four divisions Pride offered, former Pride fighters now own three out of the four UFC belts. Nog, Rampage, and Silva.[/quote]
Dave Meltzer wrote a great article on this topic a while back.
The 15 former PRIDE stars who came to UFC and WEC over the past two years have a combined 20-13 record (.606 winning percentage) in their new settings, compared to their 129-45-2 record (.741 winning percentage) in PRIDE.
The real story IMO is that the guys who made a pit stop in another cage-based organization before joining the UFC (Rampage in WFA, Silva in Cage Rage) have performed well above expectations, while the guys who came straight from the Pride ring (Cro Cop, Wandy, Shogun, Nakamura) have struggled mightily. I think there is something to be said for getting used to the idiosyncrasies of the cage.