Rogers was out from that right…that was a concussion…to stop SEVERAL concussions…the ref stopped the fight…the fight was done…it is good for rogers health and safety.
I really DON’T think if Rogers had not gassed or not…Fedor was throwin him around in the 1st round…the jab caught Fedor…and Rogers had 4-5 punches on the ground that connected…other then that Fedor was the one stalking the whole fight, took Rogers down, he called the shots and did what he did.
I’m not surprised by the least. Although Rogers can improve as well, he has the drive and determination.
I think Rogers should’ve been humble and not so sore on the loss…I mean you loss to one of the greatest MMA fighters…you should be honoured…not act like that. 2 thumbs down for Rogers.
[quote]oriensus wrote:
In the Showtime FightCamp, I find it interesting when Fedor says fighting is not a passion, it’s a job … [/quote]
After watching this Fedor fight and the above info, no matter any contract issues, I see why he is not in the UFC.
He has heavy hands but in the modern era of MMA his ground game is lacking. How many UFC heavyweights would of kept fedor on his back when they got him there? The answer is all of the current title contenders, most of whom also have crazy knock out power.
Note: This is my first post with this name, but have been on T-Nation for MANY years (4ad-ec was the shit)
[quote]jsneves wrote:
oriensus wrote:
In the Showtime FightCamp, I find it interesting when Fedor says fighting is not a passion, it’s a job …
After watching this Fedor fight and the above info, no matter any contract issues, I see why he is not in the UFC.
He has heavy hands but in the modern era of MMA his ground game is lacking. How many UFC heavyweights would of kept fedor on his back when they got him there? The answer is all of the current title contenders, most of whom also have crazy knock out power.
Note: This is my first post with this name, but have been on T-Nation for MANY years (4ad-ec was the shit)
2nd note: The Huskers just knocked off OU!
Edit: In fedors favor that was a BRUTAL punch![/quote]
He has heavy hands but in the modern era of MMA his ground game is lacking. How many UFC heavyweights would of kept fedor on his back when they got him there? The answer is all of the current title contenders, most of whom also have crazy knock out power.
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I’m confused. Please explain how you came to this conclusion.
[quote]jsneves wrote:
oriensus wrote:
In the Showtime FightCamp, I find it interesting when Fedor says fighting is not a passion, it’s a job …
After watching this Fedor fight and the above info, no matter any contract issues, I see why he is not in the UFC.
He has heavy hands but in the modern era of MMA his ground game is lacking. How many UFC heavyweights would of kept fedor on his back when they got him there? The answer is all of the current title contenders, most of whom also have crazy knock out power.
[quote]jsneves wrote:
After watching this Fedor fight and the above info, no matter any contract issues, I see why he is not in the UFC.
He has heavy hands but in the modern era of MMA his ground game is lacking. How many UFC heavyweights would of kept fedor on his back when they got him there? The answer is all of the current title contenders, most of whom also have crazy knock out power.
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You are either a troll or one of the top 10 dumbest posters in the combat forum.
[quote]Bondslave wrote:
jsneves wrote:
After watching this Fedor fight and the above info, no matter any contract issues, I see why he is not in the UFC.
He has heavy hands but in the modern era of MMA his ground game is lacking. How many UFC heavyweights would of kept fedor on his back when they got him there? The answer is all of the current title contenders, most of whom also have crazy knock out power.
You are either a troll or one of the top 10 dumbest posters in the combat forum.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Bondslave wrote:
jsneves wrote:
After watching this Fedor fight and the above info, no matter any contract issues, I see why he is not in the UFC.
He has heavy hands but in the modern era of MMA his ground game is lacking. How many UFC heavyweights would of kept fedor on his back when they got him there? The answer is all of the current title contenders, most of whom also have crazy knock out power.
You are either a troll or one of the top 10 dumbest posters in the combat forum.
Nah,that’s top 5 material.
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You guys really give him to much credit… top 3 for sure
Who controled the ground game in the fight? Fedor? Rogers?
Who is known for a great ground game?
If you say fedor controlled the fight on the ground you need to get his balls out of your mouth and realize he is an experianced fighter who realized things were going poorly down there and got up to throw some bombs. This is not to say Rogers has a quality ground game, hence being a 6:1 dog with a punchers chance at winning.
Me saying fedors ground game is lacking is based purely on THIS fight, if you think he did well on the ground in THIS fight please enlighten me. I am also comparing his ground skills to the other top heavy weights with high level ground skills.
[quote]jsneves wrote:
Who controled the ground game in the fight? Fedor? Rogers?
Who is known for a great ground game?
If you say fedor controlled the fight on the ground you need to get his balls out of your mouth and realize he is an experianced fighter who realized things were going poorly down there and got up to throw some bombs. This is not to say Rogers has a quality ground game, hence being a 6:1 dog with a punchers chance at winning.
Me saying fedors ground game is lacking is based purely on THIS fight, if you think he did well on the ground in THIS fight please enlighten me. I am also comparing his ground skills to the other top heavy weights with high level ground skills. [/quote]
Sounds like you need to get your own stretchy balls out of your own mouth.
You clearly stated that Fedor’s ground game is lacking in this “modern era of MMA.”
Nothing alludes to you talking about this fight in particular…AND even then,coming to your conclusions bsed on THIS one fight is weak…VERY weak. It discredits any point you’re trying to make.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
You clearly stated that Fedor’s ground game is lacking in this “modern era of MMA.”
Nothing alludes to you talking about this fight in particular…AND even then,coming to your conclusions bsed on THIS one fight is weak…VERY weak. It discredits any point you’re trying to make.
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Lets look at fedors last two fights… sylvia and arlovski… the two standards of the old era of the heavy weight class(wich was sad in the state it was in). Big ass dudes who could hit hard. The heavyweight class has cought up to Fedor, many more well rounded fighters. There is only one problem for him they are bigger and guess what, better on the ground. Do they hit harder? I don’t know, but hard enough to tkfo.
And who cares what fight I’m talking about? I said his ground game is lacking. I did not say it WAS lacking. Obviously he has done well in that area in the past. But in the current state of the heavy weight arena I don’t think it is at all impressive. But once again, much like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop, the world will never know.
p.s. only my left ball sack is stretchy, the right still hangs tight I’m hopeing they will hang more evenly as I aproach 30
Rodgers did come off as the same kind of low-class thug that Brock portrays himself as.
Fedor, went for and almost had Rodgers submitted three times off his back…how is that not good sneves? Just because Rodgers was on top, does not mean he was really in solid control. If any of his punches really did any damage to Fedor on the ground, how was Fedor able to so quickly and cleanly pull off those submission attempts?..he wasn’t dazed at all. When he gave up on the submission attempts, how long did it take him to get back to his feet? How many times did Fedor take down the bigger man? This fight was not as close as you believe it was. Take away the first jab that bloodied Fedor, and Rodgers was mostly ineffective.
[quote]jsneves wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
You clearly stated that Fedor’s ground game is lacking in this “modern era of MMA.”
Nothing alludes to you talking about this fight in particular…AND even then,coming to your conclusions bsed on THIS one fight is weak…VERY weak. It discredits any point you’re trying to make.
Lets look at fedors last two fights… sylvia and arlovski… the two standards of the old era of the heavy weight class(wich was sad in the state it was in). Big ass dudes who could hit hard. The heavyweight class has cought up to Fedor, many more well rounded fighters. There is only one problem for him they are bigger and guess what, better on the ground. Do they hit harder? I don’t know, but hard enough to tkfo.
And who cares what fight I’m talking about? I said his ground game is lacking. I did not say it WAS lacking. Obviously he has done well in that area in the past. But in the current state of the heavy weight arena I don’t think it is at all impressive. But once again, much like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop, the world will never know.
p.s. only my left ball sack is stretchy, the right still hangs tight I’m hopeing they will hang more evenly as I aproach 30[/quote]
I still struggle to see how is ground game was lacking, even in this fight… he was in a dominate position the entire time except one point where rogers was on top… where he punched himself out while only landing 3 punches(hard to tell what hit flush might have been 4). After in regular Fedor fashion when hes on the bottom he gets the armbar… the only reason it slipped was becasue of the cage… and being fedors first fight in a cage I think he handled himself well
[quote]jsneves wrote:
The heavyweight class has cought up to Fedor, many more well rounded fighters. There is only one problem for him they are bigger and guess what, better on the ground. [/quote]
Who? When? Where? How? has it been evident that the bigger HW guys have caught up to Fedor in terms of being better on the ground?..or being MORE well-rounded?
After all,the catalyst for your argument is this ONE fight against Rogers…and only because he didn’t dominate on the ground this fight.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
jsneves wrote:
Who controled the ground game in the fight? Fedor? Rogers?
Who is known for a great ground game?
If you say fedor controlled the fight on the ground you need to get his balls out of your mouth and realize he is an experianced fighter who realized things were going poorly down there and got up to throw some bombs. This is not to say Rogers has a quality ground game, hence being a 6:1 dog with a punchers chance at winning.
Me saying fedors ground game is lacking is based purely on THIS fight, if you think he did well on the ground in THIS fight please enlighten me. I am also comparing his ground skills to the other top heavy weights with high level ground skills.
Sounds like you need to get your own stretchy balls out of your own mouth.
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LOL. I need to remember that one.
Rogers is in for a rough nite.
This is at least as good as any UFC card I’ve watched recently. Guess how much I paid to watch it? That’s right, folks: Zero!
