Favorite Superhero

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[quote]Bujo wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]Bujo wrote:
If you think Batman has the best rogues gallery, think again. Batman has nothing on the Flash. Flash has had at least ten times the number of villains to face off against. Ranging from laugh-out-loud-comical to downright-creepy-ass-mofo to what-were-they-smoking-and-can-I-get-some-weirdos.[/quote]

Captain Boomerang? A fat talking monkey? Captain Cold? is not better than any batman villain.[/quote]
First of all he’s not a monkey, he’s a Gorilla! Plus there is Shade, Star Sapphire, Ragdoll, Rose Thorn, The Turtle, The Fiddler, Dr Alchemy, Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, The Top, Pied Piper, The Trickster, Abra Kadabra, Reverse Flash, Professor Zoom, Golden Glider, Rainbow Raider, Heat Wave, Magenta, Girder, Folded Man, Tar Pit, and on and on and on…

What’s Batman got? Calendar Man? The Calculator? Ooooooooooohhhhhh Scary.[/quote]

Haterade.

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I’d start a best rogues gallery thread…but I can’t be bothered. I’d say best rogues gallery goes to Batman, closely followed by Spider-Man and then X-Men.

Batman’s rogues gallery is just damn interesting - who else has a rogues gallery which by its very existence questions the reader? Is it Batman’s fault all these freaks came to Gotham? Would Batman’s best course of action be to leave Gotham and hope his rogues gallery would follow? It just throws up uncertainties and fascinating interactions between Batman, his villains and his supporting cast.

I think reducing the value of one’s rogues gallery to sheer variety or scale is a mistake; the best rogues galleries are those which help to form part of the hero’s character and his motives.

Read Dark Victory? Calendar Man is awesome.

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outside of the heroes mentioned here, I’d go with Raistlin Majere. Something about his character struck a cord with my 12 year old nerdy self, he’s a total bad ass. Most of my other favorites have already been mentioned, so I don’t see the need to mention them again.

I’d also include Peter Petrelli as a fav hero, but really, after he got nerfed I stopped liking him so much. Plus, I always found he never used his powers to their full potential, it frustrated me that he had so much strength, but squandered his talents 90% of the time by being a whiny bitch.

Also;
http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00041/MARIUSZ_PUDZIANOWSKI_41578l.jpg

The pudzian? He totally counts as a super hero!

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[quote]Battle Pope wrote:
outside of the heroes mentioned here, I’d go with Raistlin Majere. Something about his character struck a cord with my 12 year old nerdy self, he’s a total bad ass. Most of my other favorites have already been mentioned, so I don’t see the need to mention them again.

I’d also include Peter Petrelli as a fav hero, but really, after he got nerfed I stopped liking him so much. Plus, I always found he never used his powers to their full potential, it frustrated me that he had so much strength, but squandered his talents 90% of the time by being a whiny bitch.

Also;
http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00041/MARIUSZ_PUDZIANOWSKI_41578l.jpg

The pudzian? He totally counts as a super hero!
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No offense, but Mages are fags. Conan would kill this guy and then skull fuck his family members.

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Duck Dodgers…

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The others are turds, but Raph is the man… Well turtle.

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Best pirate is Cervantes.

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Also Nightmare is a sweet villan.

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Also lets just get this out of the way, as of right now, Goku (or Gogeta) is hands down the strongest superhero. In the terms, in a one on one battle with any other superhero or villan he would win. His speed is faster than the flash, not counting his instant transmission ability. His physical strength is above any other superhero.

He is trained extensively in hand to hand combat (martial arts). He has energy weapons which can eradicate large planets with little effort. And if you beat him down and fail to kill him, he is going to come back even stronger than before. Goku could literally slap Batman and kill him instantly. Batman is a pussy bitch. LOL

Just thought we should get some arguments going instead of all the peaceful love.

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Don’t know if Saiyans are superheroes…but I don’t really know that much about Dragonball.

I think it differs slightly due to the nature of the Saiyans in that universe - are they considered superheroes by the people? I’d consider them more as warring aliens…but I’m more or less on the fence on this one. I can see it being divisive though. Sorry for the middle of the road answer, I know you had your heart set on an argument!

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:

[quote]Battle Pope wrote:
outside of the heroes mentioned here, I’d go with Raistlin Majere. Something about his character struck a cord with my 12 year old nerdy self, he’s a total bad ass. Most of my other favorites have already been mentioned, so I don’t see the need to mention them again.
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No offense, but Mages are fags. Conan would kill this guy and then skull fuck his family members.[/quote]

None taken. Dr. Strange was mentioned. he’s magi. technically, magic is just an explanation for the heroes power, no different than mutation, mysticism, chi, or alien origin.

I’d posit that you just don’t know who Raistlin is. His character is physically very weak, but overcomes all his weaknesses through force of will alone, eventually being powerful enough and crafty enough to actually take down an entire pantheon of gods. It’s the kind of character that strikes a cord with people who feel they are weak and aspire to greatness, hence why my geek 12-year-old self sympathized and saw myself in that character.

Another favorite character I remember just now is Timothy Hunter from DCs the books of magic.

As well as Death part of the endless

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also lets just get this out of the way, as of right now, Goku (or Gogeta) is hands down the strongest superhero. In the terms, in a one on one battle with any other superhero or villan he would win. His speed is faster than the flash, not counting his instant transmission ability. His physical strength is above any other superhero.

He is trained extensively in hand to hand combat (martial arts). He has energy weapons which can eradicate large planets with little effort. And if you beat him down and fail to kill him, he is going to come back even stronger than before. Goku could literally slap Batman and kill him instantly. Batman is a pussy bitch. LOL

Just thought we should get some arguments going instead of all the peaceful love.

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I couldn’t agree more.

And thanks to this thread I am now addicted to Avatar the last airbender thanks!

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[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
Don’t know if Saiyans are superheroes…but I don’t really know that much about Dragonball.

I think it differs slightly due to the nature of the Saiyans in that universe - are they considered superheroes by the people? I’d consider them more as warring aliens…but I’m more or less on the fence on this one. I can see it being divisive though. Sorry for the middle of the road answer, I know you had your heart set on an argument![/quote]

We will classify anyone who saves others with powers normal humans don’t posess as “super-Heroes” Anyone who hurts others with said powers can be “super-villans”. Goku even saves evil things, he saves any life, he is very much a Super hero.

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I’ve got all of you beat, hands-down. My fave superhero is stronger than the Hulk or Superman, faster than Goku or The Flash, smarter than Reed Richards or Batman, more savage than Sabretooth… He. Is. Me. The Legend shall begin in the coming days…just you wait!

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[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
Don’t know if Saiyans are superheroes…but I don’t really know that much about Dragonball.

I think it differs slightly due to the nature of the Saiyans in that universe - are they considered superheroes by the people? I’d consider them more as warring aliens…but I’m more or less on the fence on this one. I can see it being divisive though. Sorry for the middle of the road answer, I know you had your heart set on an argument![/quote]

We will classify anyone who saves others with powers normal humans don’t posess as “super-Heroes” Anyone who hurts others with said powers can be “super-villans”. Goku even saves evil things, he saves any life, he is very much a Super hero.

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I can’t really argue about what you said about Goku being more or less supremely powerful, but in that case any sort of crossover would just be boring. Does Goku have any weaknesses? Is he ever really in danger?

For example, in the Marvel and DC universes, and in the rules governing those universes, you have powerful characters, but the powers of their most powerful heroes and villains are limited somewhat in terms of the scale of the universe.

As far as I know, in DBZ they are unlimited? I think unlimited power like that would be a bit boring - with characters like Batman, Superman etc. it’s their human weaknesses as a contrast to their abilities that make them appealing.

Pretty hard to argue about as the creators of Dragonball have created a world where its heroes have the ability to increase their power to the necessary levels in order to defeat whatever threat is looming - while I’m aware that comic book powers often vary too, Goku etc. actively increase their own power levels.

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[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
Don’t know if Saiyans are superheroes…but I don’t really know that much about Dragonball.

I think it differs slightly due to the nature of the Saiyans in that universe - are they considered superheroes by the people? I’d consider them more as warring aliens…but I’m more or less on the fence on this one. I can see it being divisive though. Sorry for the middle of the road answer, I know you had your heart set on an argument![/quote]

We will classify anyone who saves others with powers normal humans don’t posess as “super-Heroes” Anyone who hurts others with said powers can be “super-villans”. Goku even saves evil things, he saves any life, he is very much a Super hero.

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I can’t really argue about what you said about Goku being more or less supremely powerful, but in that case any sort of crossover would just be boring. Does Goku have any weaknesses? Is he ever really in danger?

For example, in the Marvel and DC universes, and in the rules governing those universes, you have powerful characters, but the powers of their most powerful heroes and villains are limited somewhat in terms of the scale of the universe.

As far as I know, in DBZ they are unlimited? I think unlimited power like that would be a bit boring - with characters like Batman, Superman etc. it’s their human weaknesses as a contrast to their abilities that make them appealing.

Pretty hard to argue about as the creators of Dragonball have created a world where its heroes have the ability to increase their power to the necessary levels in order to defeat whatever threat is looming - while I’m aware that comic book powers often vary too, Goku etc. actively increase their own power levels.
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On the contrary, the unlimited powering up, it feeds something inside you. Something that dreams of becoming beter and better, no matter the obstacles, getting bigger, stronger etc… No limits.

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Goku’s weakness is a possible heart attack. lol

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[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
Don’t know if Saiyans are superheroes…but I don’t really know that much about Dragonball.

I think it differs slightly due to the nature of the Saiyans in that universe - are they considered superheroes by the people? I’d consider them more as warring aliens…but I’m more or less on the fence on this one. I can see it being divisive though. Sorry for the middle of the road answer, I know you had your heart set on an argument![/quote]

We will classify anyone who saves others with powers normal humans don’t posess as “super-Heroes” Anyone who hurts others with said powers can be “super-villans”. Goku even saves evil things, he saves any life, he is very much a Super hero.

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I can’t really argue about what you said about Goku being more or less supremely powerful, but in that case any sort of crossover would just be boring. Does Goku have any weaknesses? Is he ever really in danger?

For example, in the Marvel and DC universes, and in the rules governing those universes, you have powerful characters, but the powers of their most powerful heroes and villains are limited somewhat in terms of the scale of the universe.

As far as I know, in DBZ they are unlimited? I think unlimited power like that would be a bit boring - with characters like Batman, Superman etc. it’s their human weaknesses as a contrast to their abilities that make them appealing.

Pretty hard to argue about as the creators of Dragonball have created a world where its heroes have the ability to increase their power to the necessary levels in order to defeat whatever threat is looming - while I’m aware that comic book powers often vary too, Goku etc. actively increase their own power levels.
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On the contrary, the unlimited powering up, it feeds something inside you. Something that dreams of becoming beter and better, no matter the obstacles, getting bigger, stronger etc… No limits.

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I think I know what you mean, the appeal of the character, but doesn’t it kind of nullify the sense of peril within the story itself?

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Not really, what basically happens is that the character constantly fights harder and more impossible enemies over the course of the series. Basically, because there is “unlimited power” in a sense, then the writer has to come up with bad guys who are just as capable of nuking the universe. It eventually gets out of hand, as seen in DBGT where almost every character can blow up planetary systems just by farting.

So you have to retire the characters/story eventually, otherwise you end up rehashing the same plot line over and over so many times that people eventually get bored with it (DBGT)

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[quote]Battle Pope wrote:
Not really, what basically happens is that the character constantly fights harder and more impossible enemies over the course of the series. Basically, because there is “unlimited power” in a sense, then the writer has to come up with bad guys who are just as capable of nuking the universe. It eventually gets out of hand, as seen in DBGT where almost every character can blow up planetary systems just by farting.

So you have to retire the characters/story eventually, otherwise you end up rehashing the same plot line over and over so many times that people eventually get bored with it (DBGT)[/quote]

^this

I started getting a little bored with the Buu series and my interest waned with each episode. From From the Radditz series till Cell was awsome though. Another part of the series that started to annoy me was Gohan turning into a pussy after he killed cell. Fuck Sayaman.

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