@T3hPwnisher 1) how many times did you run MMS? 2) were you in a deficit or surplus? 3) did you do anything other than batwings for upper back?
On Jim’s website as of 2018, and not it was not. I did it 3 days/week or a nine day week roughly as follows:
two cycles of:
Mobility & 10 jumps/throws all days
Press 5s pro, 50 reps incline FSL (separate TM for incline)
Power clean 15-25 reps SSL
Deadlift 5s pro
DL variation 25 reps FSL
Bench 5s pro, 50 reps close grip bench FSL
high pull/hang clean 15-25 rep SSL
Squat 5s Pro
Front Squat 25 reps FSL (separate TM for FS)
25-50 push, pull, core/legs assistance
50-100 rear delt reps daily/every training day
50-100 neck reps daily/every training day
*50-100 reps calf work daily/every training day
*50-100 reps grip work daily/every training day
One cycle:
Mobility, 20 jumps/throws all days
Press 531
Incline simplest strength template
power clean 531
deadlift 531
deadlift variation SST
Bench 531
Close grip Bench SST
high pull/hang clean 531
Squat 531
Front squat SST
50-100 push, pull, core/legs assistance
50-100 rear delt reps daily/every training day
50-100 neck reps daily/every training day
*50-100 reps calf work daily/every training day
*50-100 reps grip work daily/every training day
*I added because I’m lanky and need extra extremity work
Mostly easy conditioning for all cycles
I’ve run MMS once. I never count calories or macros, but it’s MASS mad simple: undereating it while running it would be a poor choice, to the point that Dan John TRIED “Lean Made Simple” and it just absolutely fell apart.
When I ran it, I took Dan at his word when he said the complexes and squats were the only real parts of the program that mattered, so I combined it with Easy Strength into a protocol I called “MESS” (Mass Easy, Strength Simple). 5 days a week, I pressed and did chins for my upper body work. On my MMS days, I cut out the carries from the Easy Strength programming, but otherwise would do deficit axle deadlifts with chains, loaded carries and ab wheel for the remainder of my work.
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