Ok first of all I’m new here and I’m not sure how good of an answer I’ll get but here goes…
Having 2 scoops of whey, low-fat milk and 2 tbsp of natural PB post-workout is frowned upon by people due to the fats and carbs slowing protein absorption. I understand this. However what I don’t understand is that if I am constantly consuming protein every 3 or so hours (e.g. pre-workout I usually have eggs, maybe baked beans, wholemeal toast etc.), is why I need fast-absorbing protein post workout?
I want to be able to have this shake twice a day as a sort of weight gainer. Obviously I want whey PWO as well though, and I’m not going to have 3 shakes a day. So would you advise that I drop it and just have whey with water PWO? If so, how much of a difference do you think it would make in terms of LBM gains? I just find this shake an easy source of calories, protein and healthy fats so want to stick with it if I can.
So I will reiterate; I understand that I won’t be absorbing the protein fast, but what I don’t understand is WHY I need to absorb the protein so fast when I’m already getting a constant supply of it throughout my day.
It’s right after you work out and you want the repair process to start as soon as possible. It won’t make a huge impact having fats in your PWO shake but it’s not optimal if you want the protein in your muscles as fast as possible. Keep doing what your doing if it’s your easiest way to get calories though.
I’ve read some recent stuff indicating that fat consumption post workout doesn’t slow down digestion. Plus, as you mentioned, if you eat a lot of protein, it will be in your stomach for yours.
Contrariwise, it’s not necessary to get much or any fats periworkout. And similarly, periworkout nutrition will ameliorate a lot of problems if you’re exercising in an otherwise fasted state, or not eating for a long time postworkout.
Plus, if you’re a fatty at heart like me, it’s fun to have some food as a reward after finishing a workout.
[quote]herpderp wrote:
Ok first of all I’m new here and I’m not sure how good of an answer I’ll get but here goes…
Having 2 scoops of whey, low-fat milk and 2 tbsp of natural PB post-workout is frowned upon by people due to the fats and carbs slowing protein absorption. I understand this. However what I don’t understand is that if I am constantly consuming protein every 3 or so hours (e.g. pre-workout I usually have eggs, maybe baked beans, wholemeal toast etc.), is why I need fast-absorbing protein post workout?
I want to be able to have this shake twice a day as a sort of weight gainer. Obviously I want whey PWO as well though, and I’m not going to have 3 shakes a day. So would you advise that I drop it and just have whey with water PWO? If so, how much of a difference do you think it would make in terms of LBM gains? I just find this shake an easy source of calories, protein and healthy fats so want to stick with it if I can.
So I will reiterate; I understand that I won’t be absorbing the protein fast, but what I don’t understand is WHY I need to absorb the protein so fast when I’m already getting a constant supply of it throughout my day.
Thanks in advance. [/quote]
If you’re eating every few hours, then its not imperitive to have a fast absorbing protein after your workout because your body has a constant supply. So dont sweat it if you have a little fat in your post workout shake. The people who flip out about the minute details are usually the ones not making progress.
Your body undergoes a state of catabolism (the breakdown of muscle) after strenuous physical activity. In order to halt catabolism you must enter an anaboloic (muscle building) state. In other words your body requires a source of fast digesting protein and carbohydrates to replenish muscle tissue and glycogen (the stored form of carbohydrates in the muscle)
[quote]LiftLearnLive wrote:
Your body undergoes a state of catabolism (the breakdown of muscle) after strenuous physical activity. In order to halt catabolism you must enter an anaboloic (muscle building) state. In other words your body requires a source of fast digesting protein and carbohydrates to replenish muscle tissue and glycogen (the stored form of carbohydrates in the muscle)[/quote]
Most people’s workouts dont even come close to using up significant amounts of glycogen, and if you’re eating protein every few hours there is no need to quickly have protein enter your body after a workout. Not saying its a bad thing (of course not) but do you think that your muscles are wasting away if you dont get protein or carbs in you so quickly after?
[quote]LiftLearnLive wrote:
Your body undergoes a state of catabolism (the breakdown of muscle) after strenuous physical activity. In order to halt catabolism you must enter an anaboloic (muscle building) state. In other words your body requires a source of fast digesting protein and carbohydrates to replenish muscle tissue and glycogen (the stored form of carbohydrates in the muscle)[/quote]
This is not BAD advice, at the same time, from the few posts of yours I’ve seen, you’re just parroting information you’ve read somewhere…judging from that fact, and your picture…you need to eat, read, and lift more, and hand out advice less.
This was good…a long time ago, with para workout being the new breakthrough i wouldn’t suggest reading this article (not that all of it is bad, just a few things that are outdated).
This was good…a long time ago, with para workout being the new breakthrough i wouldn’t suggest reading this article (not that all of it is bad, just a few things that are outdated).[/quote]
[quote]LiftLearnLive wrote:
Your body undergoes a state of catabolism (the breakdown of muscle) after strenuous physical activity. In order to halt catabolism you must enter an anaboloic (muscle building) state. In other words your body requires a source of fast digesting protein and carbohydrates to replenish muscle tissue and glycogen (the stored form of carbohydrates in the muscle)[/quote]
This is not BAD advice, at the same time, from the few posts of yours I’ve seen, you’re just parroting information you’ve read somewhere…judging from that fact, and your picture…you need to eat, read, and lift more, and hand out advice less. [/quote]
This was good…a long time ago, with para workout being the new breakthrough i wouldn’t suggest reading this article (not that all of it is bad, just a few things that are outdated).[/quote]
Yeaaaaaah
No.
It still applies.[/quote]
So…myth 3,4 and 5 won’t mislead a beginner after reading Thib’s para workout nutrition? It would sure throw me for a loop if i didn’t have a grasp on things.