[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
elitism is fun[/quote]
lol
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
dude im not hitting on her. do you usually hit on girls by saying oh dont worry guys are gonna want to bang you once you get a tan and lose 10 pounds?
but then again maybe i just dont know how to talk to a girl without some kind of flirting.
but seriously i wasnt hitting on her i swear.[/quote]
I know you weren’t, but come on, that was a pretty funny comeback. 
I guess I’m just entirely too easily amused.
Actually you’ve made me realize I should put up a pic on my page where I actually have my hair and makeup done, instead of just a bunch of pics of my tummy after I just woke up. I clean up all right, I suppose I ought to show that too.
One of the reasons I like this site so much is that there are a lot of people who don’t bullshit you. I appreciate the folks like 781 who have the balls to say what they think, whatever that is, whether I agree with it or not.
I’ve been going out a lot the past week, and I have finally hit the stage in my figure transformation where I’m starting to get hit on everywhere I go- from the grocery store to the post office to gas stations to concerts to people flagging me down in their cars to even a girl in the hall at my sis’s college dorm. The attention you get when you get in shape is CRAZY. It’s honestly bugged me enough in the past that I’ve never truly wanted to have a goal beyond what my idea of “normal” is. This was a flaw in my own psychology, I have just always been more comfortable being the fat kid, the class clown, joking around and fitting in. When you look great, you don’t fit in, and it is takes an adjustment in thinking to reconcile who you are with the new self you outwardly project.
This is a place I can go where people will cheer me on but where most people won’t bullshit me and tell me I look great (NO, I have a pretty face, but I could look SO much better, let’s call a spade a spade here)- I don’t WANT to be compared to the rest of the population- as this thread has emphasized, the general population is comprised of fat (and skinny) lazy slobs with the majority viewpoint that fat is normal, or even beautiful. Being a big fish in a small pond is easy. I’ve set the bar higher, so I’m here, comparing myself now to the other ladies on this site, aspiring to get to a point where I look like Ronda, MsM, Ourboro, Jchenky, OG, Court, etc. And the ladies here are the least likely to bullshit me, they’re super supportive but they won’t ever tell me I look fine as I am now and don’t need to keep progressing or anything. The people I encounter in my every day life DO tell me that, despite the fact that I’m overweight (not obese anymore thank god) but you get the point.
I want to look the best I am capable of looking, and I guess what I’m saying is that I actually DON’T have some inferiority complex or anything, hell I got plenty of dates when I was really fat, and I get too much attention now in my opinion and if anything it’s hard not to get egotistical or become a bitch when you want to be left alone. We’re all here to become the best version of ourselves possible, to be around other people who raise the bar for us, and don’t feed us a line to make us feel better about our sorry selves. At least that’s a big reason why I’m here. 
Why the hell would anyone be on this site if they weren’t ready to face reality and receive constructive criticism?
Thanks for the compliments everyone, sorry I got on my soapbox, I think I am just irked lately at how so many people around me try to project their unrealistic views of healthy levels of fat onto me, for whatever fucked up psychological reasons of their own. It’s amazing how people go back and forth between over-complimenting you thinking you’ll be satisfied and quit training, to attacking you for being a “health nut” and “it’s not healthy, it’s all about looks, you’re depriving yourself too much and I miss the old Anj” sabotaging crap that people fling at you.
This is like the place that keeps me sane (scary huh?!)
Quick, let’s go back to fat-bashing, before I think so hard about this my head explodes!
/end rant
[quote]theAnj wrote:
…I am just irked lately at how so many people around me try to project their unrealistic views of healthy levels of fat onto me, for whatever fucked up psychological reasons of their own. It’s amazing how people go back and forth between over-complimenting you thinking you’ll be satisfied and quit training, to attacking you for being a “health nut” and “it’s not healthy, it’s all about looks, you’re depriving yourself too much and I miss the old Anj” sabotaging crap that people fling at you.
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I thought the above deserved its own spot. Now I wonder who the real fools are, and why they always seem to be so worried about others (who never asked for their opinion to begin with) when they should clearly be more concerned with themselves. Nice post.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
dude im not hitting on her. do you usually hit on girls by saying oh dont worry guys are gonna want to bang you once you get a tan and lose 10 pounds?
but then again maybe i just dont know how to talk to a girl without some kind of flirting.
but seriously i wasnt hitting on her i swear.[/quote]
A nod’s as good as a wink to a blind bat, say no more, say no more!
[quote]Qthulhu wrote:
theAnj wrote:
…I am just irked lately at how so many people around me try to project their unrealistic views of healthy levels of fat onto me, for whatever fucked up psychological reasons of their own.
It’s amazing how people go back and forth between over-complimenting you thinking you’ll be satisfied and quit training, to attacking you for being a “health nut” and “it’s not healthy, it’s all about looks, you’re depriving yourself too much and I miss the old Anj” sabotaging crap that people fling at you.
I thought the above deserved its own spot. Now I wonder who the real fools are, and why they always seem to be so worried about others (who never asked for their opinion to begin with) when they should clearly be more concerned with themselves. Nice post.[/quote]
Thanks. I’m actually getting close to 40 lbs. total lost so far, and it’s been an interesting ride. At first, nobody took me seriously, because I’ve yo-yo’d before and gone on diets and nobody expected me to stick with it.
Then, after a couple months and losing 15 or 20 lbs, I noticed everyone seemed so dang supportive! Something changed recently, and it’s not how I treat other people, lol.
Is it coincidence that at the same point where I start getting hit on like mad, the support of family and friends hit a point of diminishing returns?
My mom and my sister who were very supportive have decided that I’m unhealthy, and it sucks because I can see that they are jealous, but they won’t listen to me or understand that it’s not a friggin competition, they can do it too, they just hide behind this wall of self-righteous “my way might not make me look as good but it’s definitely healthier” mantra.
Some of my friends are doing this now too. And even GUY friends. The same people who were telling me how proud they were of me when we’d go out to eat and I’d get crab cakes and a salad and only eat half the risotto are now telling me that the same meal choices are “depriving myself” and criticize and nitpick little shit like if I choose not to eat the damn croutons or skip dessert.
This is one aspect of getting healthy I did not at ALL expect. It is tiring.
I really am glad I’m moving. My best friend is the only one who hasn’t been a rollercoaster and taken out insecurities on me. I think making new friends that have healthy active lifestyles will be a welcome relief.
Haha look at the above post, manthony is being the nice guy. Too bad nice guys get stomped on by jerks when it comes to scoring poon. They would much rather be with somebody who tells them they need to loose 10 pounds for some strange reason.
[quote]elano wrote:
Haha look at the above post, manthony is being the nice guy. Too bad nice guys get stomped on by jerks when it comes to scoring poon. They would much rather be with somebody who tells them they need to loose 10 pounds for some strange reason.[/quote]
Lmao, you’re retarded. I’ve just been ranting about how not only are fat people completely messed up, but so is the pervasive mentality of the entire society that condones and encourages it and sometimes discourages those that decide to quit being fat.
Who said anything about what kind of guy women would rather be with? There are a zillion other threads devoted to that topic.
I think there was a perceived insult to me in which imhungry and manthony jumped to my defense, which is sweet and MUCH appreciated, but it’s all good, nobody’s insulting anybody, we all are hating on dumb people who think being fat is cool.
[quote]theAnj wrote:
I’ve just been ranting about how not only are fat people completely messed up, but so is the pervasive mentality of the entire society that condones and encourages it and sometimes discourages those that decide to quit being fat.
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I know what you mean. I was a fat kid, it was especially bad from age 11-14. On the one hand your parents and friends criticize you for being fat, but when you try to eat better they give you another piece of cake, when you ask for a weight set, or start trying to get a little exercise, they nag you to stop over-doing it because you’re going to hurt yourself.
I’m not complaining, and I wouldn’t trade those years of being a fatty for anything. It teaches you to tune other people’s noise out.
I’m with you on this one. I have lost close to 100 pounds of fat and I am down to 14.8% BF on the calipers. People were very supportive at first but now I hear shit like you’re too skinny and it pisses me off.
First of all, Im not too skinny and I never even want to be skinny. at 5’7" and 189 pounds I’m sure I don’t look skinny either. My family complains that I am always watching what I eat. I try not to be a diet Nazi to them but it obviously bothers them that I have done so well.
Regardless, I will keep on truckin’ until I an 9% BF or less and I am ripped like a sombitch. I’m doing it for me!
[quote]theAnj wrote:
elano wrote:
Haha look at the above post, manthony is being the nice guy. Too bad nice guys get stomped on by jerks when it comes to scoring poon. They would much rather be with somebody who tells them they need to loose 10 pounds for some strange reason.
Lmao, you’re retarded. I’ve just been ranting about how not only are fat people completely messed up, but so is the pervasive mentality of the entire society that condones and encourages it and sometimes discourages those that decide to quit being fat.
Who said anything about what kind of guy women would rather be with? There are a zillion other threads devoted to that topic.
I think there was a perceived insult to me in which imhungry and manthony jumped to my defense, which is sweet and MUCH appreciated, but it’s all good, nobody’s insulting anybody, we all are hating on dumb people who think being fat is cool.
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In the same thread as the “yay you lost weight” to the “wait, you are losing too much weight,” I hate when I get told, “It’s okay, you can afford it.”
For one thing, I have a big ole jelly belly that says I can’t afford it…and if I act like I can afford it, that means I won’t look like I can afford it much longer.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
In the same thread as the “yay you lost weight” to the “wait, you are losing too much weight,” I hate when I get told, “It’s okay, you can afford it.”
For one thing, I have a big ole jelly belly that says I can’t afford it…and if I act like I can afford it, that means I won’t look like I can afford it much longer.[/quote]
Amen sista!
Yep. People are retarded. I think I just got surprised at the change in attitude toward me by people I care about, and because I didn’t see it coming it stings. I just gotta ride it out, and like Uncle Gabby said, learn to tune out the noise.
[quote]theAnj wrote:
elano wrote:
Haha look at the above post, manthony is being the nice guy. Too bad nice guys get stomped on by jerks when it comes to scoring poon. They would much rather be with somebody who tells them they need to loose 10 pounds for some strange reason.
Lmao, you’re retarded. I’ve just been ranting about how not only are fat people completely messed up, but so is the pervasive mentality of the entire society that condones and encourages it and sometimes discourages those that decide to quit being fat.
Who said anything about what kind of guy women would rather be with? There are a zillion other threads devoted to that topic.
I think there was a perceived insult to me in which imhungry and manthony jumped to my defense, which is sweet and MUCH appreciated, but it’s all good, nobody’s insulting anybody, we all are hating on dumb people who think being fat is cool.
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Anj, I knew he was “complimenting” you, I just thought he had a hilarious way of doing it.
It’s an example of why I can’t hate the little bugger. He has good intentions, but just a funky way of showing it sometimes.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
theAnj wrote:
elano wrote:
Haha look at the above post, manthony is being the nice guy. Too bad nice guys get stomped on by jerks when it comes to scoring poon. They would much rather be with somebody who tells them they need to loose 10 pounds for some strange reason.
Lmao, you’re retarded. I’ve just been ranting about how not only are fat people completely messed up, but so is the pervasive mentality of the entire society that condones and encourages it and sometimes discourages those that decide to quit being fat.
Who said anything about what kind of guy women would rather be with? There are a zillion other threads devoted to that topic.
I think there was a perceived insult to me in which imhungry and manthony jumped to my defense, which is sweet and MUCH appreciated, but it’s all good, nobody’s insulting anybody, we all are hating on dumb people who think being fat is cool.
Anj, I knew he was “complimenting” you, I just thought he had a hilarious way of doing it.
It’s an example of why I can’t hate the little bugger. He has good intentions, but just a funky way of showing it sometimes.
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Awwww, feel the love… Group Hug!!!
sneaks in a tush squeeze sorry imhungry, got carried away, i’ll ask next time I promise.
[quote]theAnj wrote:
imhungry wrote:
theAnj wrote:
elano wrote:
Haha look at the above post, manthony is being the nice guy. Too bad nice guys get stomped on by jerks when it comes to scoring poon. They would much rather be with somebody who tells them they need to loose 10 pounds for some strange reason.
Lmao, you’re retarded. I’ve just been ranting about how not only are fat people completely messed up, but so is the pervasive mentality of the entire society that condones and encourages it and sometimes discourages those that decide to quit being fat.
Who said anything about what kind of guy women would rather be with? There are a zillion other threads devoted to that topic.
I think there was a perceived insult to me in which imhungry and manthony jumped to my defense, which is sweet and MUCH appreciated, but it’s all good, nobody’s insulting anybody, we all are hating on dumb people who think being fat is cool.
Anj, I knew he was “complimenting” you, I just thought he had a hilarious way of doing it.
It’s an example of why I can’t hate the little bugger. He has good intentions, but just a funky way of showing it sometimes.
Awwww, feel the love… Group Hug!!!
sneaks in a tush squeeze sorry imhungry, got carried away, i’ll ask next time I promise. :D[/quote]
Group??
You never have to ask, just don’t do it so hard. I’m still fragile. 
Sorry I just got turned down by a fat girl wtf. Anyways I cant believe this thing is 7 pages long.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
theAnj wrote:
I’ve just been ranting about how not only are fat people completely messed up, but so is the pervasive mentality of the entire society that condones and encourages it and sometimes discourages those that decide to quit being fat.
I know what you mean. I was a fat kid, it was especially bad from age 11-14. On the one hand your parents and friends criticize you for being fat, but when you try to eat better they give you another piece of cake, when you ask for a weight set, or start trying to get a little exercise, they nag you to stop over-doing it because you’re going to hurt yourself.
I’m not complaining, and I wouldn’t trade those years of being a fatty for anything. It teaches you to tune other people’s noise out. [/quote]
I also went through similar trials as a kid…I’m still wearing some of those “feed the kids carbs so they dont cry at night from hunger” fat cells. The excess fat and bulging bellies were, I now know, in fact signals of malnutrition(!)…These days it’s the same but the overfeeding is McDonalds/Burger King etc; moreso than spaghetti & white bread sandwiches…
The haters can definitely be annoying. I think everyone likes to get on their soapbox about what is “healthy”. I think this is because people HATE to admit that they’ve been doing things wrong or wasting their time. They don’t want to admit that they’re fat just because they’re too weak to do anything about it - so they rationalize it by saying that they are just “healthy”. Or they will stick with a bad exercise program because they started with it and they don’t want to think the entire previous time was a waste. When they see you succeed on a program that’s different, it’s hard for them to say “oh shit guess i’ve been doing something wrong all these years”, so instead they say “you’re not healthy to lose all that weight that quickly!!”.
There’s still so many misconceptions out there about what being healthy really means. Certain things, like eating McDonalds everyday, are obviously bad - I think the people who feed their kids that crap everyday need serious help. There are less obvious things though about what is good as far as carbs/fat/protein - I still think “low fat” is the theme that dominates “diet” foods.
As far as exercise goes, no one really knows what to do a lot of the time. I think this is exemplified in the fact that when most people start exercising, the first thing they turn to is cardio, and it’s often the only thing they do. They just don’t realize how much more effective/efficient resistance training could be for them. They’re often scared because the gym is too intimidating or they think they might hurt themselves.