There were several earnest posts in this thread and many that I would like to exchange more discussions with. Several people asked sensible, challenging questions but the answers will have to wait for another time.
The one thing that obviously has not gotten through to the majority here is that you people are not experts in fat loss. Yes, you can effect changes in yourself and average people who are active and follow your advice. You do not know much about obese individuals and so hardly know if your theories are going to work with them. Oh, you can call me names and pontificate, but opinions often have nothing to do with the truth. Until and unless you good people go to a good university library and research this topic then I suggest you keep an open mind about what can and cannot be achieved through bodybuilding. Yes, we all believe our methods should work. Most here would insist they have to work because that is the way physics and chemistry work. Yes, the beliefs about this are ubiquitous.
However, how do you answer each fat person who tells you their story and they cannot reduce? What if you listen and get to see that it isn’t as easy as you think. They say they have exercised. You insist they didnt do it right or long enough. They tell you they dieted. You reply that they didn’t know what they were doing and did it incorrectly. With every statement they make you charge them with doing something wrong so that your theory remains true. If the fat people are intelligent, have a strong will, and are telling the truth why do you people insist on refusing to believe what they are telling you? Maybe most humans have closed minds. They simply do not what to accept new information that might contradict what they believe.
Instead of accepting that fat people gain fat easier and faster than others you insist they are to blame because they eat too much and are not active enough. Right? Isn’t that the bottom line? You blame fat people for their condition. The truth is fat people do try and most do not succeed.
Someone asked why fat people get fat in the first place. Well, how should I know? I imagine there are many, many different stories. Some things are clear. People are fatter now than they were before automobiles and shopping centers were invented. People are fatter in modern, industrialised countries. Well, there are exceptions such as Tonga and Samoa. America has a higher percentage of obese people than Europe. It seems that the more affluent a country the more obese people there are.
I also believe that most of us are a bit ignorant when it comes to food and nutrition. It appears that little things can add up to significant changes over a long period of time. Suppose one eats 100 calories a day over what is needed by the body. That means, on average, one would gain a pound of fat every 35 days or so. That adds up to about 10 pounds in a year. Who here would charge someone with overeating if they ate only 100 extra calories a day? That is not being a glutton. If this is true then obesity can sneak up on any of us. Even bodybuilders. Thus, the silly notion that muscles turn to fat.
Over a period of ten years of eating only 100 extra calories a day will see about 100 pounds of fat on the body. That is surely a lot of extra adipose tissue.
Now, at the same time as people tend to eat heathily and heartily, it seems that we can slowly but surely use up less calories. Simple things like watching tv can make us inactive for a couple of hours a day. Then along came those remote controls and we don’t have to get out of our seats.
In the old days we could go shopping downtown but had to walk there and back. Now many of us drive to shopping centers. Soon many of us had drive-through whatever that made walking unnecessary. Add up all the times we don’t have to walk anywhere and that means we don’t need as much food as we used to.
We also have the food companises marketing yummy food and who can resist those treats from time to time? It is also socially acceptable to go out for lunch or dinner on occasion. Drinking wine and beer is also a social event.
What I am trying to show is that no one is to blame for our modern society and its benefits. Physical strength isn’t needed that much by the average person. Yes, everyone should be educated about these things and be vigilant about diet and exercise. That is easier said than done. Lots of women have families and before long have lost the youthful figure. Oh, they can jump around at the gym and go through the motions. Some stay fit and lean but most gradually get larger and less active. As we age our metabolism slows down and that contributes to some of the obesity.
Many people get a bit fat and suffer various disorders that impact on health by causing further obesity. Many fat people do have glandular problems, afterall. Or other worries that impact on fitness and health.
I dislike seeing those who put fat people down. Why so many hate fatness is a mystery. I think that is why fat people view bodybuilders as bigots. Bodybuilders do not usually like fat people, nor do they sympathise with them. They believe that everyone can be thin and healthy as long as they get off their backsides and train as hard as they do. So many bodybuilders have to diet to gain weight! How then do ordinary people gain weight? That is something that is despised. Fat is hated. And so most gym junkies and bodybuilders abhor fatness. Oh, they call it bulk if it is on a bodybuilder offseason! How convenient.
Are any of you likely to change your views? Nope. No matter what I say you will reject it. You will be like Jason B who questions fat people to their face but behind their backs you laugh at them and pity them. How noble. The only thing Jason B learned is that fat people will resent what he has to say and he will get himself banned from sites such as NAAFA. Those ladies don’t come here to challenge you good people and I don’t think it is right for you to go there to bag them.
Most people end up dying with their false ideas. Isn’t that a relief! People would rather die in this crazy world than change their precious beliefs.
