Family Attacked for Being in 'Wrong Neighborhood'

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

I would say, you’d do yourself a lot of favors to make quick judgments based on clothing & vernacular than you would skin color. If someone, white, Asian or black is talking like Young Jeezy and dressed like Thug Life, I’d be on your toes. (Environment matters, but not every dumbass trying to bring NWA life style to the suburbs is an innocent.)[/quote]

I think that there is a lot of truth to this. We were actually discussing this at work not to long ago. If someone is dressed like a thug, even if they aren’t, it isn’t racist to think they are a thug. That is the image they wished to project with their style. If I wore a pink tank top, skinny jeans and guy liner I really shouldn’t be surprised if someone thought I was gay. Just like I am assuming Prof X dresses to convey the level of success that he has achieved which alleviates a lot of the people looking at him thinking he might steal their car. [/quote]

I actually wear cut off shirts and tanks most of the time out of work so most people assume I kill people for a living.

That is why I took offense to what Conservative dog wrote…as if I should be seen as “a potential threat”…and not a man with an education…because i am black.[/quote]

I can understand the offense to the Conservative dog comment. While I partly agree with some of the overlying message of what he wrote (things being taken so far back the other way in an effort to make up for past transgressions of whites that now its reverse discrimination), I don’t like the whole rise up white people rhetoric. Same as I don’t like the whole black power thing. It is time to move past that.

And to the shirt and shorts, I have never thought of that as thuggish really, I was mainly talking about the extreme sagging pants with drastically oversized t-shirts and sideways caps and dew rags, combined with a certain manner of carrying yourself. Regardless of color of skin, if I see someone dressed like that I generally think “thug”.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

I would say, you’d do yourself a lot of favors to make quick judgments based on clothing & vernacular than you would skin color. If someone, white, Asian or black is talking like Young Jeezy and dressed like Thug Life, I’d be on your toes. (Environment matters, but not every dumbass trying to bring NWA life style to the suburbs is an innocent.)[/quote]

I think that there is a lot of truth to this. We were actually discussing this at work not to long ago. If someone is dressed like a thug, even if they aren’t, it isn’t racist to think they are a thug. That is the image they wished to project with their style. If I wore a pink tank top, skinny jeans and guy liner I really shouldn’t be surprised if someone thought I was gay. [/quote]

Man, the worst criminally minded people I’ve ever known were white. And all the good criminals (as in good at what they do) dressed like total squares, I’m talking complete fucking dorks, and drove shit box cars with normal radios.

In 2012, skin color doesn’t matter. I know a could Asian cats that hold very little regard for human life, and 3 out of the top 5 resumes we got at the last career fair were black kids.

Being a total asshole isn’t connected with skin color. [/quote]

I will agree with this, but for every one Dahmer, Bundy, or Yakuza member, there are many petty criminals (ie drug dealers, car theifs, burglars, and gangbangers) that dress as I described. And don’t misinterpret what I am saying to be that because you dress a certain way, you are that. However if you dress to give a perception don’t be outraged because people associate you with that. Also I am not saying I just think thug when a black guy is dressed like that, I do the same thing when the person is white or Hispanic.

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[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

I would say, you’d do yourself a lot of favors to make quick judgments based on clothing & vernacular than you would skin color. If someone, white, Asian or black is talking like Young Jeezy and dressed like Thug Life, I’d be on your toes. (Environment matters, but not every dumbass trying to bring NWA life style to the suburbs is an innocent.)[/quote]

I think that there is a lot of truth to this. We were actually discussing this at work not to long ago. If someone is dressed like a thug, even if they aren’t, it isn’t racist to think they are a thug. That is the image they wished to project with their style. If I wore a pink tank top, skinny jeans and guy liner I really shouldn’t be surprised if someone thought I was gay. Just like I am assuming Prof X dresses to convey the level of success that he has achieved which alleviates a lot of the people looking at him thinking he might steal their car. [/quote]

I actually wear cut off shirts and tanks most of the time out of work so most people assume I kill people for a living.

That is why I took offense to what Conservative dog wrote…as if I should be seen as “a potential threat”…and not a man with an education…because i am black.[/quote]

I can understand the offense to the Conservative dog comment. While I partly agree with some of the overlying message of what he wrote (things being taken so far back the other way in an effort to make up for past transgressions of whites that now its reverse discrimination), I don’t like the whole rise up white people rhetoric. Same as I don’t like the whole black power thing. It is time to move past that.

And to the shirt and shorts, I have never thought of that as thuggish really, I was mainly talking about the extreme sagging pants with drastically oversized t-shirts and sideways caps and dew rags, combined with a certain manner of carrying yourself. Regardless of color of skin, if I see someone dressed like that I generally think “thug”.
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That’s cultural.

If I see someone like that, I generally think, “What’s up, man”.

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Yeah, I guess maybe the same way you would look at a guy in a jacked up truck with a deep southern drawl, blue jeans, cut off sleeve western shirt, and trucker cap as a racist and I see my neighbor.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why is it even culturally still accepted for someone to relate skin color directly to a negative act?[/quote]

Because the law says to?[/quote]

Really?

The law is saying that my skin color makes me more prone to crime?

Black = crime?[/quote]

Dr. Unicorn,

You completely changed your question. Yes, the law currently relates skin color and negative acts. No, I didn’t claim anything about more prone or even mention any race specifically.

I’m also going to be referring to you as Dr. Unicorn every time I see you post something retarded, so basically most of the time.

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[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why is it even culturally still accepted for someone to relate skin color directly to a negative act?[/quote]

I think some peoples point here is, that if there are hate crime laws then they should be enforced equally and had the shoe been on the other foot and a white man made these comments to a black man before him and his friends assaulted the man and his family it would be considered a hate crime.

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And the good Reverend’s Jackson and Sharpton would descend on the scene with their media circuses… calling for scalps pronto.

Media circus.

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[quote]bpick86 wrote:
Yeah, I guess maybe the same way you would look at a guy in a jacked up truck with a deep southern drawl, blue jeans, cut off sleeve western shirt, and trucker cap as a racist and I see my neighbor.[/quote]

It means stereotypes need to change.

The way I look in my avatar is how I look at Walmart. If someone sees “potential criminal” because of that, something is wrong.

“Thug” style seems to mean very common clothing and attire to many white guys who grew up around mostly other white people.

Pants sagging doesn’t mean “criminal” to me. It means “guy in his 20’s who likely listens to Gucci on constant replay”.

Maybe some of you just need to get out more.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why is it even culturally still accepted for someone to relate skin color directly to a negative act?[/quote]

Because the law says to?[/quote]

Really?

The law is saying that my skin color makes me more prone to crime?

Black = crime?[/quote]

Dr. Unicorn,

You completely changed your question. Yes, the law currently relates skin color and negative acts. No, I didn’t claim anything about more prone or even mention any race specifically.

I’m also going to be referring to you as Dr. Unicorn every time I see you post something retarded, so basically most of the time.[/quote]

Yeah, that shows your own lacking comprehension.

My comment was related to people who think being black makes you more likely to be a criminal.

While the “law” is very racist you made it seem like the law is making that claim when scared non-minorities seem to be the ones doing it.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why is it even culturally still accepted for someone to relate skin color directly to a negative act?[/quote]

Because the law says to?[/quote]

Really?

The law is saying that my skin color makes me more prone to crime?

Black = crime?[/quote]

Dr. Unicorn,

You completely changed your question. Yes, the law currently relates skin color and negative acts. No, I didn’t claim anything about more prone or even mention any race specifically.

I’m also going to be referring to you as Dr. Unicorn every time I see you post something retarded, so basically most of the time.[/quote]

Yeah, that shows your own lacking comprehension.

My comment was related to people who think being black makes you more likely to be a criminal.

While the “law” is very racist you made it seem like the law is making that claim when scared non-minorities seem to be the ones doing it.[/quote]

“Why is it even culturally still accepted for someone to relate skin color directly to a negative act?”

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

“Why is it even culturally still accepted for someone to relate skin color directly to a negative act?”[/quote]

That was directed at the comment by conservativedog.

Spend less time trying to insult me and more time keeping up.

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every race is prone to violence, criminal activity, racism, and generally evil behavior. It’s stupid to suggest otherwise, but it’s equally stupid to have a double standard when it comes to laws dealing with race. I dont know why there are laws that even mention race anymore, that in and by it’s self fucking retarded.

and if a black person plays basketball and eats a royal with cheeses a couple times a day can be a bodybuilder

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[quote]Aggv wrote:
every race is prone to violence, criminal activity, racism, and generally evil behavior. It’s stupid to suggest otherwise, but it’s equally stupid to have a double standard when it comes to laws dealing with race. I dont know why there are laws that even mention race anymore, that in and by it’s self fucking retarded.

and if a black person plays basketball and eats a royal with cheeses a couple times a day can be a bodybuilder [/quote]

There are race hate laws because there were a shit load of black people getting hung and dragged behind trucks in the past which make the field unfair…so they tried to regulate it through law.

I agree, we can question whether they serve any good purpose now…but it is strange to me for anyone to question if they were ever needed.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Maybe some of you just need to get out more.[/quote]

I’m not talking about Billy Baggy Pants here. I’m talking about grimy motherfuckers that aren’t going to give you, or anyone a special pass because you have a similar skin tone as they do.

I drive a blue car. I had to learn which blocks I couldn’t drive by relatively quickly in the Asian neighborhoods.

I know a lot of bikers… You can figure out which ones are more like Angels and which ones are just riders pretty quick.

That being said, 9 times out of 10, if you aren’t looking for trouble you will be fine. Don’t look like a mark, and don’t wear the other teams colors and you should be fine.

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I am still going with the pants sagging=people look at you differently. Plus I don’t understand why people think anyone wants to see their boxers. Its freaking annoying. But that’s not the point. Its not a racial thing to say that how someone dresses and presents themselves is a direct reflection on how they are perceived. That has and always will be, if I wore sweats to my job interview then they probably wouldn’t have hired me because I would have looked like I slob and lazy.

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Did anybody already say it was stupid of the beta guy wandering arround at night, dressed in a pink shirt in a bad neighborhood to open his mouth and play tough guy at the gas stop? Nope?
Well that was pretty stupid.
If you can’t defend yourself and your family go back to your nice sugar coated suburbs and stay there.
Wait, if you cant even defend yourself, why the hell do you have a wife and a daughter?
Who is going to take care of the wannabe thug wielding with his knife in front of them?
Do you think your wife is going to knock the sucker out while you sink on the floor and curl yourself into a fetus position until the law arrives?
Some people just literally deserve to get punched in the face. I hope our pink shirt wearing softie will learn from this experience and schedule in some boxing classes.

P.S.:
All advice coming from an affliction wearing little bitch.

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[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Did anybody already say it was stupid of the beta guy wandering arround at night, dressed in a pink shirt in a bad neighborhood to open his mouth and play tough guy at the gas stop? Nope?
Well that was pretty stupid.
If you can’t defend yourself and your family go back to your nice sugar coated suburbs and stay there.
Wait, if you cant even defend yourself, why the hell do you have a wife and a daughter?
Who is going to take care of the wannabe thug wielding with his knife in front of them?
Do you think your wife is going to knock the sucker out while you sink on the floor and curl yourself into a fetus position until the law arrives?
Some people just literally deserve to get punched in the face. I hope our pink shirt wearing softie will learn from this experience and schedule in some boxing classes.

P.S.:
All advice coming from an affliction wearing little bitch.[/quote]

I hope you got teh low blood sugars right now…otherwise, wow.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
every race is prone to violence, criminal activity, racism, and generally evil behavior. It’s stupid to suggest otherwise, but it’s equally stupid to have a double standard when it comes to laws dealing with race. I dont know why there are laws that even mention race anymore, that in and by it’s self fucking retarded.

and if a black person plays basketball and eats a royal with cheeses a couple times a day can be a bodybuilder [/quote]

There are race hate laws because there were a shit load of black people getting hung and dragged behind trucks in the past which make the field unfair…so they tried to regulate it through law.

I agree, we can question whether they serve any good purpose now…but it is strange to me for anyone to question if they were ever needed.[/quote]

I was going to list all of the dumbass laws which were once “needed”, but after the first one you’d hopefully get the point.

If there “needs” to be a law on the books about hate crimes, it should be written vaguely with regards to race. ie. If a crime is commented and the motive/reasoning/purpose of the crime is centered around victims race, religion, or sexual orientation; it is to be considered a hate crime. That’s all it needs to say

What im curious about is if it was a car full of homosexual Latinos who got assaulted by jewish asians, mind blown…

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
every race is prone to violence, criminal activity, racism, and generally evil behavior. It’s stupid to suggest otherwise, but it’s equally stupid to have a double standard when it comes to laws dealing with race. I dont know why there are laws that even mention race anymore, that in and by it’s self fucking retarded.

and if a black person plays basketball and eats a royal with cheeses a couple times a day can be a bodybuilder [/quote]

There are race hate laws because there were a shit load of black people getting hung and dragged behind trucks in the past which make the field unfair…so they tried to regulate it through law.

I agree, we can question whether they serve any good purpose now…but it is strange to me for anyone to question if they were ever needed.[/quote]

I do agree they were once needed but hate crime laws did not show up until after most of the truly heinous acts that you are referring to. The first hate crime laws were not put in place until 1981 and while there were still some glaring examples of hate crimes like the James Byrd dragging death in Texas (who didn’t institute hate crime laws until 2001). That didn’t need to be labeled a hate crime for them to for justice to be served. They should have all been put to death not because it was a crime against a black man but because it was a disgusting crime against another human being.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Did anybody already say it was stupid of the beta guy wandering arround at night, dressed in a pink shirt in a bad neighborhood to open his mouth and play tough guy at the gas stop? Nope?
Well that was pretty stupid.
If you can’t defend yourself and your family go back to your nice sugar coated suburbs and stay there.
Wait, if you cant even defend yourself, why the hell do you have a wife and a daughter?
Who is going to take care of the wannabe thug wielding with his knife in front of them?
Do you think your wife is going to knock the sucker out while you sink on the floor and curl yourself into a fetus position until the law arrives?
Some people just literally deserve to get punched in the face. I hope our pink shirt wearing softie will learn from this experience and schedule in some boxing classes.

P.S.:
All advice coming from an affliction wearing little bitch.[/quote]

I hope you got teh low blood sugars right now…otherwise, wow.
[/quote]
Today it’s just my period bro.

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[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
every race is prone to violence, criminal activity, racism, and generally evil behavior. It’s stupid to suggest otherwise, but it’s equally stupid to have a double standard when it comes to laws dealing with race. I dont know why there are laws that even mention race anymore, that in and by it’s self fucking retarded.

and if a black person plays basketball and eats a royal with cheeses a couple times a day can be a bodybuilder [/quote]

There are race hate laws because there were a shit load of black people getting hung and dragged behind trucks in the past which make the field unfair…so they tried to regulate it through law.

I agree, we can question whether they serve any good purpose now…but it is strange to me for anyone to question if they were ever needed.[/quote]

I do agree they were once needed but hate crime laws did not show up until after most of the truly heinous acts that you are referring to. The first hate crime laws were not put in place until 1981 and while there were still some glaring examples of hate crimes like the James Byrd dragging death in Texas (who didn’t institute hate crime laws until 2001). That didn’t need to be labeled a hate crime for them to for justice to be served. They should have all been put to death not because it was a crime against a black man but because it was a disgusting crime against another human being.[/quote]

OR we could have just enforced the existing laws that already made murder and assault illegal.