[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
I’m pretty sure Sarah Palin said she believed in the literal word of the bible and Romney was such a milque toast push-over he would’ve done whatever the Christian right told him.
Look, I don’t think Obama has done a good job. I don’t like Obamacare, and I don’t like his continuation of many of Bush’s neoconservative policies.
The fact is though is that he supports the seperation of church and state and the Republicans who have run against him do not and that is an absolute deal breaker. No other policies can override that.
Go ahead and accuse me of being a single issue voter if you will but it’s no different than how 99 percent of Republicans vote strictly on abortion since they’re such fetal fetishists.
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God I hope nobody votes on abortion alone…
Anyway I just think you have an irrational fear of religious conservatives. With the way politics works these days, separation of church and state isn’t something you support, it’s something that is regardless of what anyone thinks. We’re simply way beyond that now. A republican simply isn’t going to get into office and become some kind of theocratic zealot who starts a crusade.
It’s not something that’s possible in our society. Maybe like 200 years ago? But no matter how stark raving religious someone is, they’re not going to be able to drive the country with it. They’ll have to rely on politics like everyone else. That’s why I just don’t think it’s worth you spending your vote on it at the expense of more important issues.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Unless the universe is spherical, there is no center. That also indicates the assumption that the contents are static.[/quote]
Ah yes, if we talk about the observable universe rather than the “Universe”, then the Earth really is the center of it lol!
Since the Universe has no center to speak of, the Earth is the only center of the universe (observable) that we have.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Unless the universe is spherical, there is no center. That also indicates the assumption that the contents are static.[/quote]
Ah yes, if we talk about the observable universe rather than the “Universe”, then the Earth really is the center of it lol!
Since the Universe has no center to speak of, the Earth is the only center of the universe (observable) that we have.[/quote]
Yes, we can only relate the functions locally. Any construct besides a sphere would require intersection lines which would require knowledge of the location of other intersection points.
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
I’m pretty sure Sarah Palin said she believed in the literal word of the bible and Romney was such a milque toast push-over he would’ve done whatever the Christian right told him.
Look, I don’t think Obama has done a good job. I don’t like Obamacare, and I don’t like his continuation of many of Bush’s neoconservative policies.
The fact is though is that he supports the seperation of church and state and the Republicans who have run against him do not and that is an absolute deal breaker. No other policies can override that.
Go ahead and accuse me of being a single issue voter if you will but it’s no different than how 99 percent of Republicans vote strictly on abortion since they’re such fetal fetishists.
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God I hope nobody votes on abortion alone…
Anyway I just think you have an irrational fear of religious conservatives. With the way politics works these days, separation of church and state isn’t something you support, it’s something that is regardless of what anyone thinks. We’re simply way beyond that now. A republican simply isn’t going to get into office and become some kind of theocratic zealot who starts a crusade. It’s not something that’s possible in our society. Maybe like 200 years ago? But no matter how stark raving religious someone is, they’re not going to be able to drive the country with it. They’ll have to rely on politics like everyone else. That’s why I just don’t think it’s worth you spending your vote on it at the expense of more important issues.[/quote]
I think most independents shy away from Republicans because of the irrational fear that you are referring too. I also think that the majority of independents are left leaning anyway so they are going to vote democrat unless there is a glaring reason for them not to. Which I thought there was with Obama but apparently I was wrong. The actual issues that are up for debate are ignored by those independents and they choose to cling to religion and abortion, fights that were over 30 years ago for the most part. I cant help but laugh at someone that criticizes someone for voting for a candidate solely because they pro-life and then saying that they rejected a candidate because they believed in the bible. Hypocrisy from the left, imagine that…
I didn’t read shit after the first page so don’t know if this was mentioned but that dude looks like a hes a white guy wearing black face like RDJ in tropical thunder.
I’m pretty sure Sarah Palin said she believed in the literal word of the bible [/quote]
I’m pretty sure Alaska didn’t turn into a covenant while she was Governor so…
Not only is this a lame talking point, but 100% based in fairy tale land. This is literally the worst speculated post on Romney I’ve ever seen, and that is saying a lot.
You obviously have zero familiarity with his governance record.
Your perception is flat out FUBAR… You literally couldn’t be any more wrong, even if you were trying to troll here, you still fail. My 15 year old knows this is complete and utter horse shit.
What? What on Earth are you basing this utter nonsense on?
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
The standards for the office of presidency are too high for dumb shits who don’t even believe in evolution or think that the Earth is in the center of the universe.[/quote]
But not too high for people who want to spend us into oblivion tanking our economy and job market and who royally fuck up healthcare and who think social security is still a good idea?
I doubt either of them think the Earth is literally the center of the universe lol. I dunno maybe they actually don’t believe in evolution. To me though, if you take someone who believes in evolution and can successfully run the country as opposed to someone who doesn’t and runs the country like a misguided child, who is really benefiting by keeping the first guy out?[/quote]
I’m pretty sure Sarah Palin said she believed in the literal word of the bible and Romney was such a milque toast push-over he would’ve done whatever the Christian right told him.
Look, I don’t think Obama has done a good job. I don’t like Obamacare, and I don’t like his continuation of many of Bush’s neoconservative policies.
The fact is though is that he supports the seperation of church and state and the Republicans who have run against him do not and that is an absolute deal breaker. No other policies can override that.
Go ahead and accuse me of being a single issue voter if you will but it’s no different than how 99 percent of Republicans vote strictly on abortion since they’re such fetal fetishists.
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No wonder no one will sleep with you.
Romney was a left leaning moderate. I really didn’t think he had a shot against Obama because he couldn’t even ignite his own base really. It is ludicrous to think that he would have performed some extremely conservative Christian revival in this country.
Which he was the governor of Massachusetts and we all know what a conservative stronghold that state is.
I think Romney actually is a moderate at heart and his policies as governor reflected the views of a social progressive and economic realist. Thing is though the man has no integrity, he just wanted to succeed where his father failed and become president at all costs so he became a political chameleon to sway over the theocratic Christian taliban wing of the republican party.
Anyone who is so willing to forsake what he believes in for the sake of achieving power is a God damn coward and certainly not someone I would vote for.
Sure Republicans have not been able to turn the country into a theocracy yet but that’s because we have a system of checks and balances in place that limits their political clout. The more of them in power though the weaker that system of checks and balances becomes, especially when they appoint theocrats to the supreme court. That is why I don’t believe in empowering anyone unless they support the separation of church and state.
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
though I’ll admit I did vote for Obama twice.[/quote]
Then he says:
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
Anyone who is so willing to forsake what he believes in for the sake of achieving power is a God damn coward and certainly not someone I would vote for.
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You have to be trolling at this point. Your posts are written to well for you to be a complete moron, or a loon off his meds so…
The rest of your post, and complete lack of understanding of national level politics, rife with false narrative and progress talking points isn’t even worth the time to address.
In the first election I suspected Obama’s “change” mantra as being mere fluff without having any substance, his first term confirmed that.
However, what was I supposed to do? Vote for McCain, a man who vowed to continue the policies of Bush, an absolute, unadulterated failure?
Then he touts his experience as making him more qualified to be president than Obama so he selects Sarah Palin, a woman with even less experience than Obama? It didn’t make any sense.
I’m also convinced had McCain or Romney been elected president they would’ve likely gone to war with Iran and I have had enough of these Middle Eastern clusterfucks that are bankrupting our nation so we can appease Israel and AIPAC.
Obama at least got us out of Iraq, that is something I’m confident neither McCain or Romney would’ve done.
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
Sure Republicans have not been able to turn the country into a theocracy yet but that’s because we have a system of checks and balances in place that limits their political clout. The more of them in power though the weaker that system of checks and balances becomes, especially when they appoint theocrats to the supreme court. That is why I don’t believe in empowering anyone unless they support the separation of church and state.[/quote]
I’ll be frank man. You have WAY more faith in these republicans’ devout Christianity than they have faith in Christ lol. Very, very few Christians are anywhere close to as “Christian” as they appear. This goes triple for politicians. They wouldn’t turn anything into a theocracy even if they could.
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
Sure Republicans have not been able to turn the country into a theocracy yet but that’s because we have a system of checks and balances in place that limits their political clout. The more of them in power though the weaker that system of checks and balances becomes, especially when they appoint theocrats to the supreme court. That is why I don’t believe in empowering anyone unless they support the separation of church and state.[/quote]
I’ll be frank man. You have WAY more faith in these republicans’ devout Christianity than they have faith in Christ lol. Very, very few Christians are anywhere close to as “Christian” as they appear. This goes triple for politicians. They wouldn’t turn anything into a theocracy even if they could.[/quote]
I don’t know about that, certainly some of them would like Rick Santorum when he tried to sneak that intelligent design bill into a defense spending bill. What a complete sack of shit. Even if he wasn’t the nominee he still represents a very powerful wing of the Republican party that has considerable influence over the country.
