[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I?ve evolved into a very similar diet to yours. Fat through the morning, moderate protein starting in the afternoon. Some carbs around training for hard sessions, and lots of protein at the end of the day.
I keep PB at work too. Only I eat it with kerrygold butter. A spoon of PB with a little butter is the best thing ever.
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Interesting. Is there a benefit to adding the butter (other than the taste)?[/quote]
There’s some good stuff in quality butter like fat soluble vitamins, good fatty acids like CLA, but yeah mostly taste.
Thanks for taking the time to share by the way. I represent the thicker doesn’t always look impressive remark. I’m as thick as I am wide, and sometimes I don’t look very impressive from the front.[/quote]
I gotta say, I tried this today and holy crap. I already loved the natty PB but the butter puts it over the top.
ED, not sure if this has been covered and I missed it, but it looks like you spent several years at nearly 90lbs over what you are now. Yet you have that thin-skinned look of someone who’s been lean all their life. Did you have any issue with loose skin after your weight loss?
[quote]Tyler23 wrote:
ED, not sure if this has been covered and I missed it, but it looks like you spent several years at nearly 90lbs over what you are now. Yet you have that thin-skinned look of someone who’s been lean all their life. Did you have any issue with loose skin after your weight loss?[/quote]
It’s worse than simply being ~90# heavier for a few years (although that would be bad enough). All my life whenever I’ve gained fat, the first place I put it (and the last place I’d lose it) was in the lower-ab and ‘love handle’ regions. The point being that, even during those periods when I was fairly lean, I still carried at least a little fat there, so the skin in these areas was always on-stretch. And now that I’ve finally made significant inroads into losing fat in these trouble spots, I do have a little loose skin–not as much as some men and women contend with, but enough to make me slightly self-conscious.
It’s funny you should bring this up, because it so happens I’m meeting with a plastic surgeon next week for a consultation in this regard. Will share his assessment/plan should anyone be interested in hearing it.
Yeah, I have the same issue, although I am not as lean as you. My top four abs are pretty visible but those damn lower abs and love handles don’t want to budge much. Since I’m heading off for vacation in a couple weeks, my cut will be placed into “damage control” mode, then I think I will integrate some of your methods to chip away at that last bit when I get back.
I’ll be interested to hear what you learn next week. Thanks.
I really enjoyed this thread, and I lately I’ve had a penchant for leaving my comfort zone and trying new things in the gym. I’ll be trying a lot of the stuff you talked about in this thread.
I see you like peanut butter. I know this isn’t the S+N forum but I did this a lot when I used a CKD to diet.
Whip peanut butter and a dash of almond milk (I also add protein powder and cinnamon) until the visible texture looks grainy. Freeze for ~20-30 minutes, and enjoy. I used 8-12 tablespoons of PB
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I really enjoyed this thread, and I lately I’ve had a penchant for leaving my comfort zone and trying new things in the gym. I’ll be trying a lot of the stuff you talked about in this thread.
I see you like peanut butter. I know this isn’t the S+N forum but I did this a lot when I used a CKD to diet.
Whip peanut butter and a dash of almond milk (I also add protein powder and cinnamon) until the visible texture looks grainy. Freeze for ~20-30 minutes, and enjoy. I used 8-12 tablespoons of PB[/quote]
Glad to hear some of the ideas in this thread resonated with you.
The PB recipe sounds amazing. And although mixing in protein would somewhat run counter to my goal of suppressing insulin as much as possible, I may have to try your recipe just for taste of it! Thanks for sharing.
ED, what are you taking intra? I do not want you to give brand names of course. The raw material is fine. i.e. rice starch, corn starch, malto, pepto-pro, hydo whey, whey isolate, etc. I too use another company for supps that allows you to build your own. Just curious.
I have learnt heaps too. I would also like to try your nutrition approach, although because I train often first thing in the morning, that might be difficult.
I was at a conference over the weekend and one of the top retinal surgeons in town mentioned that IF shows some promising health benefits, including for the prevention of macula degeneration. Do you feel that with your training and nutrition you are also optimising your “health”?
And I know you don’t IF, but the principles are similar.
[quote]Mateus wrote:
ED, what are you taking intra? I do not want you to give brand names of course. The raw material is fine. i.e. rice starch, corn starch, malto, pepto-pro, hydo whey, whey isolate, etc. I too use another company for supps that allows you to build your own. Just curious. [/quote]
It’s a mix of 1) hydrolyzed casein protein (40 g total) with extra leucine, and 2) a waxy-maize-derived carb source (24 g total).
[quote]theBird wrote:
I was at a conference over the weekend and one of the top retinal surgeons in town mentioned that IF shows some promising health benefits, including for the prevention of macula degeneration. [/quote]
Haven’t heard of a relationship between IF and ARMD.
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Do you feel that with your training and nutrition you are also optimising your “health”? tweet[/quote]
No doubt, my current diet regimen is a vast improvement health-wise over the all-too-typical American diet of my fat years. However, I have to say that my training/diet decisions are driven primarily by physique considerations, and that whatever health benefits accrue are more by happenstance than anything else. If health optimization per se became a primary goal, I would eat more veggies and fewer simple carbs, for example.
[quote]Mateus wrote:
ED, what are you taking intra? I do not want you to give brand names of course. The raw material is fine. i.e. rice starch, corn starch, malto, pepto-pro, hydo whey, whey isolate, etc. I too use another company for supps that allows you to build your own. Just curious. [/quote]
It’s a mix of 1) hydrolyzed casein protein (40 g total) with extra leucine, and 2) a waxy-maize-derived carb source (24 g total).
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Gotcha. I use about 100g of rice and corn starch plus malto and hydrolized high grade whey. The pepto pro was breaking the bank.
Had my consultation with the plastic surgeon today re my post-weight-loss loose skin. He declined to operate, stating he felt there was not enough skin there to justify the scarring that would result.
[quote]EyeDentist wrote:
Had my consultation with the plastic surgeon today re my post-weight-loss loose skin. He declined to operate, stating he felt there was not enough skin there to justify the scarring that would result. [/quote]
Interesting. Any other options? I’ve heard about using lasers (same ones they use for the face) to shrink/tighten loose skin. I think they go by a number of different names depending on the clinic/doctor (I believe thermage is one).
[quote]EyeDentist wrote:
Had my consultation with the plastic surgeon today re my post-weight-loss loose skin. He declined to operate, stating he felt there was not enough skin there to justify the scarring that would result. [/quote]
Interesting. Any other options? I’ve heard about using lasers (same ones they use for the face) to shrink/tighten loose skin. I think they go by a number of different names depending on the clinic/doctor (I believe thermage is one).[/quote]
It so happens he (the surgeon) mentioned Thermage by name. Said he had owned a unit and offered the procedure for a while (it was the procedure-of-choice for excess-skin pts who were adamant about not wanting incisional surgery). However, after using it on a number of pts, he found the results to be middling at best, and eventually got rid of his unit. He said it was something I could consider, but warned me that it was somewhat painful and quite expensive. His assessment (expensive + painful + lackluster results) is not engendering in me a lot of enthusiasm for the procedure, but I may look into it.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Great work here man. You have given me some things to think about in my crazy workouts and nutrition. [/quote]
Hi Derek, thanks for taking the time to read my absurdly long posts. Glad to hear aspects struck you as thought-provoking; let me know if any of it proves useful to you.
My problem is going to be that I have no choice but work out at 5 am. I have over the years geared my diet to mostly in the morning and eat mostly veggies for dinner.
Plus I like whiskey but some times you have to make a choice.
Hey EyeDentist, tried out some of your stuff and like it. One question I have is what exercise to you use for first exercise for back to get blood into the muscle? Every other muscle group I’ve found a good first exercise where I can do 20-30 reps and really focus on getting blood into the muscle.
I tried straight arm rope pulldowns but my triceps get burned out long before my back, and if I tried focusing on the peak portion of cable rows my biceps burnt out.
[quote]staystrong wrote:
Hey EyeDentist, tried out some of your stuff and like it. One question I have is what exercise to you use for first exercise for back to get blood into the muscle? Every other muscle group I’ve found a good first exercise where I can do 20-30 reps and really focus on getting blood into the muscle.
I tried straight arm rope pulldowns but my triceps get burned out long before my back, and if I tried focusing on the peak portion of cable rows my biceps burnt out.
Any tips?[/quote]
Not Eyedentist, but try that same exercise with a straight bar with a pronated grip (palms facing down). It takes your triceps almost entirely out of the movement.
but some times you have to make a choice.