EyeDentist, How Do You Train?

[quote]robdawg14m wrote:
I’m really late to this thread, but my goal is to look as good as you when I’m 50! Great work! [/quote]

Many thanks. If I can do it, anyone can!

Seeing spidey and eye talking to each other… shirtless w/ their glasses and brown hair, it looks like they’re family.

[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
Seeing spidey and eye talking to each other… shirtless w/ their glasses and brown hair, it looks like they’re family.[/quote]

Like maybe I’m his slightly-older brother? (j/k)

[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
Seeing spidey and eye talking to each other… shirtless w/ their glasses and brown hair, it looks like they’re family.[/quote]

That’s one of the nicest things anyone has said to me on this sight. I’ll just pretend it was also the similarities in amazing physiques as well…

PB…, or wait, ED haha

I read through this whole thread today, good stuff. Looking fantastic and tons of take homes, thanks :slight_smile:

[quote]Up wrote:
PB…, or wait, ED haha

I read through this whole thread today, good stuff. Looking fantastic and tons of take homes, thanks :)[/quote]

Hey there, Up! Looking amazing as usual in your avi. Thanks for the kind words, and for taking the time to wade through this post. I miss your log!

[quote]EyeDentist wrote:

[quote]Up wrote:
PB…, or wait, ED haha

I read through this whole thread today, good stuff. Looking fantastic and tons of take homes, thanks :)[/quote]

Hey there, Up! Looking amazing as usual in your avi. Thanks for the kind words, and for taking the time to wade through this post. I miss your log![/quote]

Well it was easy, like many said, i like how you write down your thoughts.
Ahh, thanks! I have been consistently at it. Like you, Im pretty darn happy to be maintaining, not that I’m not pushing for more :wink: Keep us posted :slight_smile:

I came across this study and immediately thought of your training style.

From the abstract: Sexual satisfaction was related to how physically attracted women were to their partner and the breadth of his shoulders.

Gallup GG, Jr., Ampel BC, Wedberg N, Pogosjan A. Do orgasms give women feedback about mate choice? Evol Psychol 2014;12(5):958-78. epjournal.net

Very interesting!

Yo ED, have you ever messed around with things like yohimbine, ephedrine, etc?

The reason I ask is I’ve just read The Stubborn Fat Solution and Lyle’s a big fan

This thread is great! Thank you to ED. I turn 50 in a few months and I have found some very helpful information in my push to look my all time best at 50.

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Yo ED, have you ever messed around with things like yohimbine, ephedrine, etc?

The reason I ask is I’ve just read The Stubborn Fat Solution and Lyle’s a big fan[/quote]

Hi Yogi. I briefly (= a few weeks) tried the SFS yohimbine-cardio plan (no ephedrine–that stuff is hard to come by). The yohimbine definitely made it easier to get the heart rate up, but I can’t say I saw any effect on fat loss. (Probably didn’t give it a fair trial, though.)

[quote]Captain721 wrote:
This thread is great! Thank you to ED. I turn 50 in a few months and I have found some very helpful information in my push to look my all time best at 50.[/quote]

You’re welcome. Thanks for stopping by, and best of luck on your push!

[quote]EyeDentist wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Yo ED, have you ever messed around with things like yohimbine, ephedrine, etc?

The reason I ask is I’ve just read The Stubborn Fat Solution and Lyle’s a big fan[/quote]

Hi Yogi. I briefly (= a few weeks) tried the SFS yohimbine-cardio plan (no ephedrine–that stuff is hard to come by). The yohimbine definitely made it easier to get the heart rate up, but I can’t say I saw any effect on fat loss. (Probably didn’t give it a fair trial, though.)[/quote]

Interesting, the way Lyle talks about yohimbine makes it sound pretty desirable. I’ll be giving it a try on my next cut so I’ll let you know what I think. Probably run it for 6 weeks or so.

One more thing, which I think you’ve touched on briefly, but how much of a negative impact do you find staying so lean, especially at your age (forgive my rudeness), has on your social life? Do you find yourself avoiding social situations or do you just go along but politely refuse the food that’s on offer?

^ Good question Yogi, interested in reply also.

Thanks ED this is a great thread, great motivation to keep at it!

[quote]Yogi wrote:
One more thing, which I think you’ve touched on briefly, but how much of a negative impact do you find staying so lean, especially at your age (forgive my rudeness), has on your social life? Do you find yourself avoiding social situations or do you just go along but politely refuse the food that’s on offer?
[/quote]

Good question. I have to say, keeping lean has definitely crimped my social life. I avoid functions that involve food or significant travel (ie, long enough to where eating a meal or more would be required). Friends and family have long since stopped extending anything but perfunctory invitations to get-togethers. Further, I am reluctant to eat out very often, and when I do, I tend to frequent restaurants that provide access to the nutritional content of their food–which means chain restaurants and their mediocre food. Once there, I order the same meal every time.

Both of these tendencies drive my wife nuts. In fact, recently she put her foot down and demanded I take her on a belated trip to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary (which passed in July). The look in her eye told me it was best not to fight her on this one. We returned Sunday from a nice trip to San Francisco. (Did I overeat? Yes. Yes I did.)

I suppose this avoidance behavior on my part is a sign of weakness; ie, if I had more willpower, I could face down the temptation of a party tray and/or nice restaurant meal. I guess I’m just following the path of least resistance.

[quote]scoots2 wrote:
^ Good question Yogi, interested in reply also.

Thanks ED this is a great thread, great motivation to keep at it![/quote]

You’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.

[quote]EyeDentist wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
One more thing, which I think you’ve touched on briefly, but how much of a negative impact do you find staying so lean, especially at your age (forgive my rudeness), has on your social life? Do you find yourself avoiding social situations or do you just go along but politely refuse the food that’s on offer?
[/quote]

Good question. I have to say, keeping lean has definitely crimped my social life. I avoid functions that involve food or significant travel (ie, long enough to where eating a meal or more would be required). Friends and family have long since stopped extending anything but perfunctory invitations to get-togethers. Further, I am reluctant to eat out very often, and when I do, I tend to frequent restaurants that provide access to the nutritional content of their food–which means chain restaurants and their mediocre food. Once there, I order the same meal every time.

Both of these tendencies drive my wife nuts. In fact, recently she put her foot down and demanded I take her on a belated trip to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary (which passed in July). The look in her eye told me it was best not to fight her on this one. We returned Sunday from a nice trip to San Francisco. (Did I overeat? Yes. Yes I did.)

I suppose this avoidance behavior on my part is a sign of weakness; ie, if I had more willpower, I could face down the temptation of a party tray and/or nice restaurant meal. I guess I’m just following the path of least resistance. [/quote]

Curious as to what you feel is the major draw back to one meal? Maybe once a week? I’m not close enough to most of my family for that part to matter and my mom who I am close to understands enough but to have my SO that restricted by my choices is a bit much for my taste. This hobby should enhance life not detract from it. I am also a fatty who loves food way too much :slight_smile:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]EyeDentist wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
One more thing, which I think you’ve touched on briefly, but how much of a negative impact do you find staying so lean, especially at your age (forgive my rudeness), has on your social life? Do you find yourself avoiding social situations or do you just go along but politely refuse the food that’s on offer?
[/quote]

Good question. I have to say, keeping lean has definitely crimped my social life. I avoid functions that involve food or significant travel (ie, long enough to where eating a meal or more would be required). Friends and family have long since stopped extending anything but perfunctory invitations to get-togethers. Further, I am reluctant to eat out very often, and when I do, I tend to frequent restaurants that provide access to the nutritional content of their food–which means chain restaurants and their mediocre food. Once there, I order the same meal every time.

Both of these tendencies drive my wife nuts. In fact, recently she put her foot down and demanded I take her on a belated trip to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary (which passed in July). The look in her eye told me it was best not to fight her on this one. We returned Sunday from a nice trip to San Francisco. (Did I overeat? Yes. Yes I did.)

I suppose this avoidance behavior on my part is a sign of weakness; ie, if I had more willpower, I could face down the temptation of a party tray and/or nice restaurant meal. I guess I’m just following the path of least resistance. [/quote]

Curious as to what you feel is the major draw back to one meal? Maybe once a week? I’m not close enough to most of my family for that part to matter and my mom who I am close to understands enough but to have my SO that restricted by my choices is a bit much for my taste. This hobby should enhance life not detract from it. I am also a fatty who loves food way too much :)[/quote]

For me, the issue is not that there’s a major drawback to having a weekly cheat meal (there isn’t). My problem is, I have a tendency to get overly ‘dialed in’ on the diet/workout thing, and can quickly lose proper perspective on it.

For example, up until our SF trip, I was slowly, systematically upping my caloric intake–a process that was going well. But if I were to eat a meal for which the calories couldn’t be accurately counted, I would (gasp) be unable to know exactly what my intake was, and thus would lose the ability to determine precisely how I was responding to my current macros. The horror!

Taking a step back: Is it absurd for someone not deep into a contest prep to be this obsessive? Absolutely. And insofar as my tendency to get ‘diet blinders’ adversely affects my wife’s quality of life, it’s selfish to boot.

Finding the proper balance between this hobby (obsession?) and the things that are truly important in life is definitely something I need to work on.

[quote]EyeDentist wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]EyeDentist wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
One more thing, which I think you’ve touched on briefly, but how much of a negative impact do you find staying so lean, especially at your age (forgive my rudeness), has on your social life? Do you find yourself avoiding social situations or do you just go along but politely refuse the food that’s on offer?
[/quote]

Good question. I have to say, keeping lean has definitely crimped my social life. I avoid functions that involve food or significant travel (ie, long enough to where eating a meal or more would be required). Friends and family have long since stopped extending anything but perfunctory invitations to get-togethers. Further, I am reluctant to eat out very often, and when I do, I tend to frequent restaurants that provide access to the nutritional content of their food–which means chain restaurants and their mediocre food. Once there, I order the same meal every time.

Both of these tendencies drive my wife nuts. In fact, recently she put her foot down and demanded I take her on a belated trip to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary (which passed in July). The look in her eye told me it was best not to fight her on this one. We returned Sunday from a nice trip to San Francisco. (Did I overeat? Yes. Yes I did.)

I suppose this avoidance behavior on my part is a sign of weakness; ie, if I had more willpower, I could face down the temptation of a party tray and/or nice restaurant meal. I guess I’m just following the path of least resistance. [/quote]

Curious as to what you feel is the major draw back to one meal? Maybe once a week? I’m not close enough to most of my family for that part to matter and my mom who I am close to understands enough but to have my SO that restricted by my choices is a bit much for my taste. This hobby should enhance life not detract from it. I am also a fatty who loves food way too much :)[/quote]

For me, the issue is not that there’s a major drawback to having a weekly cheat meal (there isn’t). My problem is, I have a tendency to get overly ‘dialed in’ on the diet/workout thing, and can quickly lose proper perspective on it.

For example, up until our SF trip, I was slowly, systematically upping my caloric intake–a process that was going well. But if I were to eat a meal for which the calories couldn’t be accurately counted, I would (gasp) be unable to know exactly what my intake was, and thus would lose the ability to determine precisely how I was responding to my current macros. The horror!

Taking a step back: Is it absurd for someone not deep into a contest prep to be this obsessive? Absolutely. And insofar as my tendency to get ‘diet blinders’ adversely affects my wife’s quality of life, it’s selfish to boot.

Finding the proper balance between this hobby (obsession?) and the things that are truly important in life is definitely something I need to work on.[/quote]

this is a good thread but ED these last 2 posts are just sad imo.

there is more to life than a 6 pack.