[quote]-Sigil- wrote:
CT - could I get your input on form? This was at the tail end of workout, below what I usually use for HDL (165-185). I’ll try to snap one with cluster/max to see if form is still right. Thanks much.
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I really like what I’m seeing. Best speed from someone from the forum so far and would rank up there with the speed of most olympic lifters.
If there is one thing I don’t like (and I know why you are doing it) is the raising of the hips before starting. You are subconsciously doing this to prestretch the hamstrings and have more power from the start. The problem is that it tilts the torso forward which will tend to make you drift forward with heavier lifts.
[quote]-Sigil- wrote:
CT - could I get your input on form? This was at the tail end of workout, below what I usually use for HDL (165-185). I’ll try to snap one with cluster/max to see if form is still right. Thanks much.
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I really like what I’m seeing. Best speed from someone from the forum so far and would rank up there with the speed of most olympic lifters.
If there is one thing I don’t like (and I know why you are doing it) is the raising of the hips before starting. You are subconsciously doing this to prestretch the hamstrings and have more power from the start. The problem is that it tilts the torso forward which will tend to make you drift forward with heavier lifts.
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Thanks for the feedback. Was amazing you observed that as I couldn’t understand why the bar kept drifting forward on heavier lifts. I am definitely doing that “presetretch” to try to explode the bar and on heavier lifts my final position looks hunched over. If I don’t pre-stretch, I think I may have to use lighter weights. I will play around with this. Thanks
[quote]-Sigil- wrote:
CT - could I get your input on form? This was at the tail end of workout, below what I usually use for HDL (165-185). I’ll try to snap one with cluster/max to see if form is still right. Thanks much.
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I really like what I’m seeing. Best speed from someone from the forum so far and would rank up there with the speed of most olympic lifters.
If there is one thing I don’t like (and I know why you are doing it) is the raising of the hips before starting. You are subconsciously doing this to prestretch the hamstrings and have more power from the start. The problem is that it tilts the torso forward which will tend to make you drift forward with heavier lifts.
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@CT:
I think that I do this too. My torso goes forward on heavier lifts and it’s something I’ve really been working on.
So, without the pre-stretch in the hamstrings, you would just focus on a solid hip punch?
[quote]-Sigil- wrote:
CT - could I get your input on form? This was at the tail end of workout, below what I usually use for HDL (165-185). I’ll try to snap one with cluster/max to see if form is still right. Thanks much.
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I really like what I’m seeing. Best speed from someone from the forum so far and would rank up there with the speed of most olympic lifters.
If there is one thing I don’t like (and I know why you are doing it) is the raising of the hips before starting. You are subconsciously doing this to prestretch the hamstrings and have more power from the start. The problem is that it tilts the torso forward which will tend to make you drift forward with heavier lifts.
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@CT:
I think that I do this too. My torso goes forward on heavier lifts and it’s something I’ve really been working on.
So, without the pre-stretch in the hamstrings, you would just focus on a solid hip punch?[/quote]
Actually there IS a hamstring pre-stretch (or loading). But it should be done in the first inch of the pull, not prior to the pull. When you lift the bar off of the block imagine doing a RDL: shift back to your heels, load the hamstrings then fire the hips
Could you evaluate my snatch high pull form? I’ve been trying to work on my launch lately. Also, wheere should i aim height-wise? Is nipple line acceptable or should i be aiming higher? Thanks!
[quote]-Sigil- wrote:
CT - could I get your input on form? This was at the tail end of workout, below what I usually use for HDL (165-185). I’ll try to snap one with cluster/max to see if form is still right. Thanks much.
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I really like what I’m seeing. Best speed from someone from the forum so far and would rank up there with the speed of most olympic lifters.
If there is one thing I don’t like (and I know why you are doing it) is the raising of the hips before starting. You are subconsciously doing this to prestretch the hamstrings and have more power from the start. The problem is that it tilts the torso forward which will tend to make you drift forward with heavier lifts.
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@CT:
I think that I do this too. My torso goes forward on heavier lifts and it’s something I’ve really been working on.
So, without the pre-stretch in the hamstrings, you would just focus on a solid hip punch?[/quote]
Actually there IS a hamstring pre-stretch (or loading). But it should be done in the first inch of the pull, not prior to the pull. When you lift the bar off of the block imagine doing a RDL: shift back to your heels, load the hamstrings then fire the hips[/quote]
@CT:
That’s such a GOOD coaching tip - thank you!
I was trying to figure out how to do this in today’s high pull session from blocks and I was stumbling around the same solution, but couldn’t figure it out completely.
Could you evaluate my snatch high pull form? I’ve been trying to work on my launch lately. Also, wheere should i aim height-wise? Is nipple line acceptable or should i be aiming higher? Thanks!
The speed is good… in your case the issue is the arm pull, the elbows should never be lower than the wrists when you pull. The elbows should be higher than the wrists. And yeah, nipple line is fine for a high pull.
Thanks CT! How would I go about fixing this arm pull issue, is there a cue you recommend? I also know that I lack a lot of internal rotation in the shoulder, but I don’t know if this is the cause.
Hi. I’m not CT, but I used to do the same thing months ago. CT told me to try to get my chest facing the ceiling as fast as I can. The result…perfect form & a PR on every ramp max & cluster set, better speed, & I felt more activated at the end of my workout.
The ‘throw the chest to the ceiling’ cue works well… but if you lack internal rotation then it could very well be an issue beause to keep the bar close you`ll tend to do what you are doing now.
Yeah I agree with you. I almost pull my elbows straight back at the top instead of upwards because that’s the only way i can keep my shoulder stable with my lack of internal rotation, which isn’t good. I’ll be sure to work on it.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
The ‘throw the chest to the ceiling’ cue works well… but if you lack internal rotation then it could very well be an issue beause to keep the bar close you`ll tend to do what you are doing now.[/quote]
throwing the chest to ceiling is excellent.
unfortunately,i just realized my wrists always go higher than my elbows at the top.
even without a bar, once my hands get above my nipple line (more or less), my elbows do not go any higher.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
The ‘throw the chest to the ceiling’ cue works well… but if you lack internal rotation then it could very well be an issue beause to keep the bar close you`ll tend to do what you are doing now.[/quote]
throwing the chest to ceiling is excellent.
unfortunately,i just realized my wrists always go higher than my elbows at the top.
even without a bar, once my hands get above my nipple line (more or less), my elbows do not go any higher.
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Then only pull up a high as you can without having the wrists higher than elbows.
[quote]-Sigil- wrote:
CT - could I get your input on form? This was at the tail end of workout, below what I usually use for HDL (165-185). I’ll try to snap one with cluster/max to see if form is still right. Thanks much.
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I really like what I’m seeing. Best speed from someone from the forum so far and would rank up there with the speed of most olympic lifters.
If there is one thing I don’t like (and I know why you are doing it) is the raising of the hips before starting. You are subconsciously doing this to prestretch the hamstrings and have more power from the start. The problem is that it tilts the torso forward which will tend to make you drift forward with heavier lifts.
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Hey CT - could I get your feedback on this one (heavier weight/cluster)? Thanks.
Just adding my own vid to ask you how my technique looks on my snatch high pull from blocks (benches).
Any other input from other members is also welcome.
I’ll definitely try to keep in mind to stay completely static at the starting position. The camera angle definitely had an impact on the way it looked since the bar was actually touching just above knee height. Just got Black Book of Training Secrets which will hopefully prove as an invaluable addition to my training.
PS.
For anyone’s who is interested, I uploaded two videos two hours each on my youtube channel detailing specific information on the technique required for the snatch and the clean. The clean video features Shane Hamman, current US clean and jerk record holder.
ct.
felt like taking the day off today, but decided to work on pull technique… i focused on keeping my elbows up! and speed!
and worked in front of mirror to watch. my 1 rm is 185, so i worked with 135, reps, and reps and reps. WOW. what a difference. it was popping! ended up going to 175 for sets of 3’s and 4’s-- like butter.
thanks
[quote]domcib wrote:
ct.
felt like taking the day off today, but decided to work on pull technique… i focused on keeping my elbows up! and speed!
and worked in front of mirror to watch. my 1 rm is 185, so i worked with 135, reps, and reps and reps. WOW. what a difference. it was popping! ended up going to 175 for sets of 3’s and 4’s-- like butter.
thanks
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Explosive pulls are about two things:
(1) Explosiveness
(2) Precision
If you don’t have both, you cannot do the lifts optimally. Which is why “practice days” is often the best thing you can do for these lifts.
