Have you ever encountered unexpected badassery from a small guy versus you (I’m 30, lifting for 8 years or so, weighing around 110kg/242lbs, 1m80, 14% BF at the moment. Never juiced or anything. And I’m an easy going guy, never looking for problems and getting along with like 99% of the gym)?
Today there was a tiny kid (about 60kg/132lbs, 17-18 years) doing deadlifts with terrible form (but that’s not the issue). When he was done he removed the weights and let them on the ground scattered all over the place. I had to manoeuvre between the piles.
He simply walked away and I confronted him “are these your weights? Is it too much to hassle to put them back where they belong?”. I didn’t yell but it was not to be mistaken.
The guy looked at me with an attitude like he was going to rip me apart and was not intimitated at all. He said “I’ll do it after I get my drink”. Later he walked right past me, like an inch awayn looking me right in the face.
Now… He could fit in me like 2,5 times. When I get in a situation with a guy twice my size, I’d be rather like “oops shit”.
Is this the attitude of youngsters?
I’ve always picked the path of conversation, but sometimes I guess the only thing they’ll understand is a good beating.
Or do I have to be like 286lbs and shredded?[/quote]
So, do you work at the gym or what? If you dont, I would not have said a thing.
It really is not your place to tell him to put things back. If you do work there, you should have told him to put his stuff back or leave.
Hate to say it but thats the more common attitude among young kids these days. I work with highschool kids and they all talk alot of shit until they respect you and that takes a while. Not like how it used to be were you give people common curtisy without knowing them. If you want proof check the “old guys beats a POS” Thread on the forum. It’s what i’m talking about in real life.
I’m 5’9, 148lbs when the following happened. The other guy was probably 5’9" but around 220lbs. The story goes like this:
One time in my old gym (before moving) this new customer starts giving me a hard time because of some shit that was going on in American Samoa (I was in [Western] Samoa). He was all pissed off and trying to start shit with the white boy (everyone else there was Samoan). Luckily the Peace Corps trains us in the language, I had been in Samoa for a year and a half, and I had been going to that gym regularly the entire time…
I turned back to him and said, “Excuse me? Do you have something to say to me?”
to which he immediately clenched up and retorted with “Do you have a problem?”
I replied, “If you’re going to be rude to me than yes I do have a problem” and stared straight at him
he again asked, “You got a problem?”
I replied again, “Yes if you’re going to continue being rude then I have a problem with it.”
we then stared at each other for a few seconds before he backed down…
He then saw me move the heavy bag down the entire rack with a single kick (it’s a chain draped over the top so when I saw move it, I mean literally move the entire thing down the rack its hung over). The other regulars asked me what the problem was and I said there was none. He later came up and apologized for being an asshole, told me he was a police officer and that if I ever needed anything to just let him know.
I’m a pretty well trained fighter. On the street someone bigger than me I’ll still walk away. But in a gym that I’m a regular at and everyone knows and would’ve backed me… when both people are 1 on 1 and clearly don’t have any hidden weapons… I would’ve thrown down in a second with that chump.[/quote]
The best part about this is you tried to start a fight while being stationed in a foreign country due to your involvement in the peace corps. Classy.
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
Hi guys,
Today there was a tiny kid (about 60kg/132lbs, 17-18 years)[/quote]
his attitude has nothing to do with his size and everything to do with him being 18.[/quote]
Wellll, I’m going to say 50/50 on that. We have a lot of young guys in my gym and there all respectufll. [/quote]
i’m not suggesting that a teenager can’t be civil and respectful, i’m just saying that his attitude is caused more by his youthful arrogance than his weight.
I am sure some Germans thought Audi Murphy wasn’t sh1t - but he put them in the ground. I also knew a rather short and small kid once, his name was Eric. He was a wrestler and mean as hell. One time some big football player said something to him, I don’t remember what, but it was intended to make fun of him in some way in front of some other football players and some girls. My friend walked right up to him and side-kicked him right in the knee. It bent his knee back, the guy fell on the ground in such pain it looked like he couldn’t breath. Then my friend proceeded to kick him in the face. The guy couldn’t get up due to his pain, and disorientation from repeated foot to the face syndrome.
Moral of the story is…you just never know how a fight will go, no matter how big you are.
I occasionally run into Ronald Hearns, Tommy’s son. Ron’s a pro with a 25-1 record. About 6’2 but very thin. If you didn’t know who he was and what he does you’d say - “Oh, i can fuck this dude up no problem” but I’m sure there would be 2 hits. Him hitting you and then you hitting the ground.
Size dont mean shit, or atleast thats what I tell myself everytime I undress to shower.
Anyways, I am tall 230lbs I lift weights and am stronger than most people.I use to judge people by there size but since the UFC has taken over the world I have stopped doing that.Size dont mean shit when it terms of toughness.
Look at forearms, back thickness and ears.if the ears are all wadded up you might want to stear clear.
its nice to see big guys giving respect to wrestlers here. all i usually see on these forums is “if you dont weigh over 200 lbs, you aint shit.” as a former wrestler, i would like to think that i have a huge mental, not to mention physical, edge over other guys who weigh 30-40lbs more than me who like to talk shit. im just surprised to hear big dudes talking about how some of us little guys can mess people up.
one of my friends (5’8’', maybe 185lbs) was in downtown SD with his buddy whos a former D1 wrestler and prob walked around at like 140-150ish. these big drunk dudes were looking for a fight and decided to pick on some little guys(my friend and his buddy).
so this former wrestler grabs a hold of one of these guys and suplexes him onto the hood of a car. the rest of the big guys looked at each other with the expression of “well, i guess the fights over.” i just love telling that story cuz its one of those, “dont assume you can beat the shit out of a guy just cuz ur bigger than him” stories.
I’m relatively big I suppose - 6’4" and 240 lbs - but I’ve always had a degree of humility in regards to judging how tough someone is. Some bigger guys seem to think that, although they’ve never been in a combative situation, somehow their years of bicep curls and cable delt raises will automatically make them able to “handle themselves” in a violent situation. This makes no sense to me. Take a 165 pound boxer. This person has made a hobby out of a.) punching people until they fall down and b.) dodging punches. Why would any untrained big guy assume he could automatically “take him”?
It comes from people who either had one or 2 fights in there life or never had to throw hands to defend themeselves.
All things being equal the bigger guy will win, its why we have wieght divisions in sports ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL TRAINING EXPERINCE ETC.
However outside of the ring when is life equal. Even if there is a 50lb difference if the little guy has had 20 fights while the big guy has not I’m going with the little guy.
You also have to take into account who wants it more. I have seen guys with no fighting skill whatsoever drop 2 guys just because he had the WILL TO DO HURT. Some guys are just born with the will not the skill but the willingness to hurt someome without a blink. And in a real fight you can not be thinking to much you have to be willing to just go and throw.
The guy sounds like a douche (people who don’t put away their weights are all douchebags) but it seems like you expected a more positive response because of your “intimidation factor”. Not everyone is effected by it. I personally try not to treat anyone different based on their size. Often this is easier said than done, yes, but it’s still something I try to accomplish in my daily life. I remember when I first started hitting the gym big guys would come up to me in the middle of my workouts, stick their chest out and say “Are you done with that?”. I guess they thought since they were so big and intimidating I would immediately scramble away and let them have the equipment.
Same goes for small guys. I try not to treat them any different, either. I think it is human nature to try to take advantages of the perceived weaknesses of others, even if it isn’t consciously so.
Same with women who are attractive. In my personal life and on the job, I’ve learned that women who are 8+/10 (I live in CA, there are plenty of them) are typically very surprised and confused when you tell them “no” or don’t kiss their ass. The look on their face is priceless.
[quote]four60 wrote:
but it does make you think, I mean before his movies who was Bruce to the average guy…nobody. Just my silly azz way of saying ya never know,
Kids will be kids and A-holes will be A-holes, if you felt he was flexing on you pass it to a trainer let them handle it. Becuase in his eyes you don’t scare him. So if you flex back is it worth the chance of getting boosted from your gym.
Or there is there is the brooklyn way.
Wait,Wait,Wait,Wait, WET SOCK WITH A TENNIS BALL INSIDE AS HE IS GETTING IN HIS CAR, HIT, REPEAT.[/quote]
That’s true. Besides I find that aggression in public places makes you look kinda silly and immature.
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that.
people on the misc on BB.com that actually talk about alpha usually have it wrong IMO.
i made a thread that got ignored, oh well.
[quote]four60 wrote:
but it does make you think, I mean before his movies who was Bruce to the average guy…nobody. Just my silly azz way of saying ya never know,
Kids will be kids and A-holes will be A-holes, if you felt he was flexing on you pass it to a trainer let them handle it. Becuase in his eyes you don’t scare him. So if you flex back is it worth the chance of getting boosted from your gym.
Or there is there is the brooklyn way.
Wait,Wait,Wait,Wait, WET SOCK WITH A TENNIS BALL INSIDE AS HE IS GETTING IN HIS CAR, HIT, REPEAT.[/quote]
That’s true. Besides I find that aggression in public places makes you look kinda silly and immature.
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^^
that.
people on the misc on BB.com that actually talk about alpha usually have it wrong IMO.
i made a thread that got ignored, oh well.[/quote]
alleged badasses all the time at the gym. they are usually puny highschool kids working out in beaters, mean mugging everyone in there and walking around like they have watermelons under each arm. none of them are actually tough/strong though.
[quote]saveski wrote:
I occasionally run into Ronald Hearns, Tommy’s son. Ron’s a pro with a 25-1 record. About 6’2 but very thin. If you didn’t know who he was and what he does you’d say - “Oh, i can fuck this dude up no problem” but I’m sure there would be 2 hits. Him hitting you and then you hitting the ground.
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
alleged badasses all the time at the gym. they are usually puny highschool kids working out in beaters, mean mugging everyone in there and walking around like they have watermelons under each arm. none of them are actually tough/strong though.[/quote]
maybe they wish they had watermelons under their arms