Ever Had an Affair Outside Marriage?

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

There’s a desperate hurting women over there who probably hates to open her eyes in the morning and all anybody (just about) cares about is whether this guy is happy. Yeah, she’s probably angry and nasty and impossible to get along with on top of being obese too. That’s how hurting people are. None of that is the point. Marriage (on the human level), including sex, is ALL about GIVING every bit of yourself on every level and in every way to another and ESPECIALLY when they least deserve it and are most difficult to live with. That’s when they need you most.

Marriage was designed by God, one man and one woman, for life, as an earthly illustration of the covenant relationship of Christ with His church bride. He GAVE Himself in a gruesome bloody death to redeem His people, his bride, from death themselves. He commands husbands to love their wives this way. (see the 5th chapter of the apostle Paul’s letter to the church at Ephesus) No matter what else may happen, children are equipped for life by watching their fathers love their mothers. Of course, we won’t do that on our own. How well I know, having learned this lesson the very hard way by almost destroying the wife of my youth with my own self serving childishness. Even after I should have known better.

Nevermind. Whatever on earth could I have been thinking? This guy needs to get laid and save money. Carry on.[/quote]

I’ve been reading a lot of your posts, and as a Christian brother I gotta say… what you write sounds WAY too preachy for my tastes…

anyways OP, for your wife…

2iu Keifei somatropin AM (before 30 minutes fasted walk) and 2iu PM (on empty stomach)
50-75mcg t3 ED
12mg test E Monday/Thursday
low dose DNP for 6 weeks

if that doesn’t work, time for a divorce
[/quote]

Your solution is to put her on drugs?

Also that was Tiribulus no Pat.

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[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Dont know you OP, however I honestly really doubt you are 100% free of your own issues in your marriage. Most issues with marriage difficulties both parties are at fault. Splitting percentages is counter productive, sitting down and having open communication with your spouse is more important than anything. [/quote]

I agree with this. While I think that women should take some pride in themselves and care about what their husbands think of them, that same thing holds true for men. Is he still in as attractive as when they married? And to the “need the health insurance” part, what is he doing that he cannot afford health insurance should he get a divorce.

If he is sitting around being supported by his wife, I can partially understand her not giving a crap what he thinks because he isn’t really holding up his end of the bargain either.[/quote]
Plus have medically reasons been ruled out for the weight gain?

Hypothryroidism? Diabetes? Depression with SSRI treatment?

Not all weight gain is due to sloth and food vacuum

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

There’s a desperate hurting women over there who probably hates to open her eyes in the morning and all anybody (just about) cares about is whether this guy is happy. Yeah, she’s probably angry and nasty and impossible to get along with on top of being obese too. That’s how hurting people are. None of that is the point. Marriage (on the human level), including sex, is ALL about GIVING every bit of yourself on every level and in every way to another and ESPECIALLY when they least deserve it and are most difficult to live with. That’s when they need you most.

Marriage was designed by God, one man and one woman, for life, as an earthly illustration of the covenant relationship of Christ with His church bride. He GAVE Himself in a gruesome bloody death to redeem His people, his bride, from death themselves. He commands husbands to love their wives this way. (see the 5th chapter of the apostle Paul’s letter to the church at Ephesus) No matter what else may happen, children are equipped for life by watching their fathers love their mothers. Of course, we won’t do that on our own. How well I know, having learned this lesson the very hard way by almost destroying the wife of my youth with my own self serving childishness. Even after I should have known better.

Nevermind. Whatever on earth could I have been thinking? This guy needs to get laid and save money. Carry on.[/quote]

I’ve been reading a lot of your posts, and as a Christian brother I gotta say… what you write sounds WAY too preachy for my tastes…

anyways OP, for your wife…

2iu Keifei somatropin AM (before 30 minutes fasted walk) and 2iu PM (on empty stomach)
50-75mcg t3 ED
12mg test E Monday/Thursday
low dose DNP for 6 weeks

if that doesn’t work, time for a divorce
[/quote]

Your solution is to put her on drugs?

Also that was Tiribulus no Pat. [/quote]

I realized that right after I posted it lol…

and no, not drugs, hormones. The DNP IS a drug yes, but it’s optional…

if you give a woman testosterone (a weee little bit) she can avoid the emotional/physical toll of menopause. you bet your fucking ass my wife is going to be doing that. no way am I putting up with that bullshit if I don’t have to

sometimes, hormones ARE the answer

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.[/quote]

As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however its never an easy fix.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.[/quote]

As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however

its never an easy fix. [/quote]

what’s so hard about eating right and exercising? this is what is wrong with you fat people lol… you are shoulder-deep in denial.

you overcomplicate the issue so much that it seems like it’s impossible to overcome… so you give up, but pat yourself on the back for trying and treat yourself to some cinnabuns

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

There’s a desperate hurting women over there who probably hates to open her eyes in the morning and all anybody (just about) cares about is whether this guy is happy. Yeah, she’s probably angry and nasty and impossible to get along with on top of being obese too. That’s how hurting people are. None of that is the point. Marriage (on the human level), including sex, is ALL about GIVING every bit of yourself on every level and in every way to another and ESPECIALLY when they least deserve it and are most difficult to live with. That’s when they need you most.

Marriage was designed by God, one man and one woman, for life, as an earthly illustration of the covenant relationship of Christ with His church bride. He GAVE Himself in a gruesome bloody death to redeem His people, his bride, from death themselves. He commands husbands to love their wives this way. (see the 5th chapter of the apostle Paul’s letter to the church at Ephesus) No matter what else may happen, children are equipped for life by watching their fathers love their mothers. Of course, we won’t do that on our own. How well I know, having learned this lesson the very hard way by almost destroying the wife of my youth with my own self serving childishness. Even after I should have known better.

Nevermind. Whatever on earth could I have been thinking? This guy needs to get laid and save money. Carry on.[/quote]

I’ve been reading a lot of your posts, and as a Christian brother I gotta say… what you write sounds WAY too preachy for my tastes…

anyways OP, for your wife…

2iu Keifei somatropin AM (before 30 minutes fasted walk) and 2iu PM (on empty stomach)
50-75mcg t3 ED
12mg test E Monday/Thursday
low dose DNP for 6 weeks

if that doesn’t work, time for a divorce
[/quote]

Your solution is to put her on drugs?

Also that was Tiribulus no Pat. [/quote]

I realized that right after I posted it lol…

and no, not drugs, hormones. The DNP IS a drug yes, but it’s optional…

if you give a woman testosterone (a weee little bit) she can avoid the emotional/physical toll of menopause. you bet your fucking ass my wife is going to be doing that. no way am I putting up with that bullshit if I don’t have to

sometimes, hormones ARE the answer[/quote]

Ya I saw that you did, just a friendly heads up.

Interesting. Sorry I immediately thought drugs; I’m not very familiar with either. I think it would probably be better to first figure out what her issues are (as well as the OPs) before manipulating her hormones. Your strategy could have unintended consequence, no?

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The no love is a big issue. The weight doesn’t help, but a loveless marriage sounds like a terrible thing.

All things being equal, if she had the body as when you first met her, would you still leave?

Is the lack of physical intimacy your fault, hers, or both?

Would the affair be a one-time thing? What about next year, or the year after?
How will this affect you psychologically in the long run? Will you be able to look yourself in a mirror the next day?
What would happen if your kids found out? How will this affect them?

Pretty much everyone here is saying don’t do it.

You might want prepare for the divorce, because when the affair becomes known, you’ll get taken to the cleaners. Figure out the health insurance issue. Figure out how you’re going to handle the financial burden. Find a way to quietly talk to a lawyer and get your ducks in a row.

What is your long-term plan?

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.[/quote]

I disagree. If she is working 40+ hours a week, at a desk, coupled with stress from her kids/husband, and she has poor eating habits with no exercise = fat. That was just part of the equation. Beleive me, I work in an office, and what people shove down their throat each day = fat.

I’m also not defending fat people, I was scolding the OP for thinking cheating was the answwer to his marriage problems. Also stress and attitude can play a role in fat levels. It’s not always just food in food out.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.[/quote]

As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however

its never an easy fix. [/quote]

what’s so hard about eating right and exercising? this is what is wrong with you fat people lol… you are shoulder-deep in denial.

you overcomplicate the issue so much that it seems like it’s impossible to overcome… so you give up, but pat yourself on the back for trying and treat yourself to some cinnabuns [/quote]

When you are depressed/stressed the last thing on your mind is, “should I eat veggies or this ice cream.”

It’s also hard when Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, or the U.S. gov say eat 300g of carbs a day, avoid fats, protein will give you kidney failure. The OPs wife probably has no clue what is ideal to eat.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.[/quote]

As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however

its never an easy fix. [/quote]

what’s so hard about eating right and exercising? this is what is wrong with you fat people lol… you are shoulder-deep in denial.

you overcomplicate the issue so much that it seems like it’s impossible to overcome… so you give up, but pat yourself on the back for trying and treat yourself to some cinnabuns [/quote]

When you are depressed/stressed the last thing on your mind is, “should I eat veggies or this ice cream.”

It’s also hard when Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, or the U.S. gov say eat 300g of carbs a day, avoid fats, protein will give you kidney failure. The OPs wife probably has no clue what is ideal to eat. [/quote]

When I’m depressed the last thing on my mind is getting out of bed…even to eat.

Fuck that shit. I refuse to go back to that hellish place.

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When people are talking about her gaining fat as she might be stressed with work or something. She’s 300 pounds! That’s not fat, that’s not even obese, that’s literally massive for a woman. I would bet my right nut that she doesn’t have a desk job, what kind of desk and chair would she need?!!

She is large to the point where she has completely lost her own self respect and is literally KILLING herself, she must be at extreme health risk. And the OP is meant to just watch her slowly die because of his wedding vows? Yes he should try and help her but if she’s willing to do that to her body and have no respect for herself that’s got to be incredibly hard on him. I agree an affair would be a massive mistake, so you either have to divorce her, or stay in a loveless marriage until the day in the not so distant future she drops dead of her own accord.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:<<< as <> a Christian brother [/quote] I can tell. [quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:<<< I gotta say… what you write sounds WAY too preachy for my tastes… >>>[/quote] You’ll have to forgive me for the fact that your “tastes” form no part of the motivation for my posts.

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[quote]The Ox Man wrote:
When people are talking about her gaining fat as she might be stressed with work or something. She’s 300 pounds! That’s not fat, that’s not even obese, that’s literally massive for a woman. I would bet my right nut that she doesn’t have a desk job, what kind of desk and chair would she need?!!

She is large to the point where she has completely lost her own self respect and is literally KILLING herself, she must be at extreme health risk. And the OP is meant to just watch her slowly die because of his wedding vows? Yes he should try and help her but if she’s willing to do that to her body and have no respect for herself that’s got to be incredibly hard on him. I agree an affair would be a massive mistake, so you either have to divorce her, or stay in a loveless marriage until the day in the not so distant future she drops dead of her own accord.[/quote]

The OP is required to be faithful to her because of his wedding vows. He can divorce her anytime he wants to, but he won’t becuase he needs health insurance.

As far as her being fat goes, I don’t think anyone is defending her being fat. She is obviously a health risk, but we really don’t know what is going on in this womans life that drove her to this extreme. 300lbs is not normal. Normal well adjusted people do not eat until they reach 300lbs.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however

its never an easy fix. [/quote]

what’s so hard about eating right and exercising? this is what is wrong with you fat people lol… you are shoulder-deep in denial.

you overcomplicate the issue so much that it seems like it’s impossible to overcome… so you give up, but pat yourself on the back for trying and treat yourself to some cinnabuns [/quote]
I believe he said former fat guy. What makes you think he’s fat? What is he denying? What is “overcomplicated” about “calories in and calories out”? That’s about as simple as you can make it. Have you ever been fat? What makes you think you know how easy or difficult it is? Or have you just been a gym bro who hired Shelby Starnes and took steroids? You’re damn right, leaning out isn’t hard at all when you’re young and pay someone for a diet and use AAS lol.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however

its never an easy fix. [/quote]

what’s so hard about eating right and exercising? this is what is wrong with you fat people lol… you are shoulder-deep in denial.

you overcomplicate the issue so much that it seems like it’s impossible to overcome… so you give up, but pat yourself on the back for trying and treat yourself to some cinnabuns [/quote]
I believe he said former fat guy. What makes you think he’s fat? What is he denying? What is “overcomplicated” about “calories in and calories out”? That’s about as simple as you can make it. Have you ever been fat? What makes you think you know how easy or difficult it is? Or have you just been a gym bro who hired Shelby Starnes and took steroids? You’re damn right, leaning out isn’t hard at all when you’re young and pay someone for a diet and use AAS lol.[/quote]

There is also a lot to be said about priorities. If I’m not mistake Derek has to workout at like 5 A.M. because of his schedule & family life. Yet he still does it.

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Here is some advice for you, I think it will work. Go to a bar, drink beer and maybe you’ll get laid. When you get home after too many beers and more than likely not getting laid. When she asks you where you’ve been tell her out drinking beer and trying to get laid. Then tell her your going to keep doing that until you either get laid or as fat as she is. If she doesn’t think that’s a good idea you could suggest taking walks and eating healthy as something she could do to help persuade you to stay faithful.

Otherwise go drink beer and cheat on your wife when the opportunity arrises. Eventually, you’ll end up Divorced, you can then start your life over and it will all be a blur.

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[quote]rustey wrote:
Here is some advice for you, I think it will work. Go to a bar, drink beer and maybe you’ll get laid. When you get home after too many beers and more than likely not getting laid. When she asks you where you’ve been tell her out drinking beer and trying to get laid. Then tell her your going to keep doing that until you either get laid or as fat as she is. If she doesn’t think that’s a good idea you could suggest taking walks and eating healthy as something she could do to help persuade you to stay faithful. Otherwise go drink beer and cheat on your wife when the opportunity arrises. Eventually, you’ll end up Divorced, you can then start your life over and it will all be a blur.[/quote]

The avatar is a perfect complement to this post.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.[/quote]

As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however

its never an easy fix. [/quote]

what’s so hard about eating right and exercising? this is what is wrong with you fat people lol… you are shoulder-deep in denial.

you overcomplicate the issue so much that it seems like it’s impossible to overcome… so you give up, but pat yourself on the back for trying and treat yourself to some cinnabuns [/quote]

I have to agree with this.

The hardest part is the first few weeks. You have to figure out what to buy, how to prepare it, how to time it, your body takes time to adjust to the changes and then…its completely routine. It becomes mechanical. Its just another part of your life, like going to work or school everyday. Its ridiculously simple.

You make time to eat every day right? Well now you’re just eating different things. If you are too picky of an eater to stomach healthy food, grow up.

Outside of medical issues, theres really no excuse for not being able to shed some lbs, especially a chick at 300, she could melt back down to 210 in (relatively) no time with proper diet.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?
[/quote]

how does working 40+ hours a week make someone fat? logic says it would do the opposite…

any defense of fat people is laughable… they aren’t fat because they are stressed… they aren’t fat because they feel bad about themselves…

they are fat because they shovel loads of shit down their gullets every meal of every day and don’t exercise… this is science people… calories in > calories out = weight gain.[/quote]

As a former Fat guy and friends with depression. Yes its calories in and calories out, however

its never an easy fix. [/quote]

what’s so hard about eating right and exercising? this is what is wrong with you fat people lol… you are shoulder-deep in denial.

you overcomplicate the issue so much that it seems like it’s impossible to overcome… so you give up, but pat yourself on the back for trying and treat yourself to some cinnabuns [/quote]

When you are depressed/stressed the last thing on your mind is, “should I eat veggies or this ice cream.”

It’s also hard when Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, or the U.S. gov say eat 300g of carbs a day, avoid fats, protein will give you kidney failure. The OPs wife probably has no clue what is ideal to eat. [/quote]

People dont get to 300 lbs because they were being conscious of what they were eating. You really think this woman kept Dr. Oz and the U.S. government in mind when ordering her triple stacker with bacon from wendys?

And ill never understand the “im depressed, im gonna stuff my face with candy and cake, that’ll show me” attitude. How is depression a valid excuse for eating like shit? when im upset, the last thing i think is “i bet a fuckin bag of fun size snickers is what i need right now.”