[quote]therajraj wrote:
It’s only dumb if you’re married and the concept is outside of your headspace.
Being chivalrous, taking girls on multiple expensive dinner dates is now a thing of the past.
Ill go as far as saying that the less you respect a woman, the more willing she is to sleep with you.
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Sure, if she’s a whore.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
It’s only dumb if you’re married and the concept is outside of your headspace.
Being chivalrous, taking girls on multiple expensive dinner dates is now a thing of the past.
Ill go as far as saying that the less you respect a woman, the more willing she is to sleep with you.
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I will say the lack of boys knowing how to ask a woman on an actual date makes it easy to sleep with young girls if you take them on a date.
They think they are going to the prom, and primp and act accordingly.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]doogie wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
She shouldn’t have needed to ask as you should have given up your seat before it came to that. She wasn’t rude; she was simply correcting you and addressing an issue that your parents should have addressed when raising you. I take it you don’t watch westerns either. Lucas McCain would have given up his seat then kicked your ass off the bus. [/quote]
This is dead on.
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You mean “this is dead wrong.”
She WAS rude. She WAS out of line.[/quote]
I normally would stand. 99.9999% of the time.
But, the woman was a bitch.
If someone is making rude comments like her, I’d have said something along the lines of “I stand for ladies, not you.”
Or maybe I would have growled and kinda lunged at her like I was crazy.
I think you did the right thing. It sounds like she demanded out of entitlement. If she really was a lady she would not have to tell you such as it would show in her demeanor. Good for you for standing up for yourself. I believe in chivalry too but not for a bully.
[quote]dirtman wrote:
Its hard to tell what you should do anymore. Some women get pissed if you open doors and cater to them( call you a creep etc). Some women love it and think its a good sign of manners etc.
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Oh that one is easy.
Open the door and do not smile, beam at her.
Bellow a “you´re welcome”, especially if she does not thank you.
She knows she is being a cunt, rub it in with a smile.
This is one of the few cases were her fellow women wont be on her side either, especially if you look sheepish and explain that “your mama just raised you that way”.
Dont break down laughing, act like you were genuinely confused and a little hurt.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
How this is even a debate is beyond me.
You give up the seat because it’s the right thing to do. Nothing to do with equality, nothing to do with sleeping with her, nothing to do with hairy armpits or lack of bra.
I’ll concede she’s a bit trashy to make a fuss about it in the first place, she seems to be taking advantage of what is usually a gesture of kindness and not an obligation. But you should have offered before she even brought it up. Case closed. [/quote]
Excuse me, how does that make sense in your mind?
Looks like this thread separates the men from the boys.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
How this is even a debate is beyond me.
You give up the seat because it’s the right thing to do. Nothing to do with equality, nothing to do with sleeping with her, nothing to do with hairy armpits or lack of bra.
I’ll concede she’s a bit trashy to make a fuss about it in the first place, she seems to be taking advantage of what is usually a gesture of kindness and not an obligation. But you should have offered before she even brought it up. Case closed.
As an aside, if you were trying to sleep with the girl the best advice is still to give her your seat, as it’s an opening to be able to start an easy going conversation and crack a couple flirty jokes, bragging about what a gentleman you must be (remember, these are jokes and delivery is everything). Sitting there, showing no class and refusing to give up your seat will not impress even the sloppiest of trash enough to sleep with you. And chances are you’re not even going to start a conversation with this girl unless you do offer to give up your seat.
Seriously, I don’t care what scenario we’re talking about, give up the damn seat. [/quote]
Care to explain WHY he should give up the seat?
[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
How this is even a debate is beyond me.
You give up the seat because it’s the right thing to do. Nothing to do with equality, nothing to do with sleeping with her, nothing to do with hairy armpits or lack of bra.
I’ll concede she’s a bit trashy to make a fuss about it in the first place, she seems to be taking advantage of what is usually a gesture of kindness and not an obligation. But you should have offered before she even brought it up. Case closed.
As an aside, if you were trying to sleep with the girl the best advice is still to give her your seat, as it’s an opening to be able to start an easy going conversation and crack a couple flirty jokes, bragging about what a gentleman you must be (remember, these are jokes and delivery is everything). Sitting there, showing no class and refusing to give up your seat will not impress even the sloppiest of trash enough to sleep with you. And chances are you’re not even going to start a conversation with this girl unless you do offer to give up your seat.
Seriously, I don’t care what scenario we’re talking about, give up the damn seat. [/quote]
Care to explain WHY he should give up the seat?[/quote]
For the same reason you help a lost child, or help an old lady across the road or help push someone’s broken down car…because it’s the RIGHT thing to do or what a decent person should do.
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
How this is even a debate is beyond me.
You give up the seat because it’s the right thing to do. Nothing to do with equality, nothing to do with sleeping with her, nothing to do with hairy armpits or lack of bra.
I’ll concede she’s a bit trashy to make a fuss about it in the first place, she seems to be taking advantage of what is usually a gesture of kindness and not an obligation. But you should have offered before she even brought it up. Case closed.
As an aside, if you were trying to sleep with the girl the best advice is still to give her your seat, as it’s an opening to be able to start an easy going conversation and crack a couple flirty jokes, bragging about what a gentleman you must be (remember, these are jokes and delivery is everything). Sitting there, showing no class and refusing to give up your seat will not impress even the sloppiest of trash enough to sleep with you. And chances are you’re not even going to start a conversation with this girl unless you do offer to give up your seat.
Seriously, I don’t care what scenario we’re talking about, give up the damn seat. [/quote]
Care to explain WHY he should give up the seat?[/quote]
For the same reason you help a lost child, or help an old lady across the road or help push someone’s broken down car…because it’s the RIGHT thing to do or what a decent person should do.
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And those scenarios make sense. But an able bodied woman with a sense of entitlement (enough to lecture him for 20 minutes afterwards) does not fall into that category imo. She sounded like a pushy broad that wants it “both ways”.
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
How this is even a debate is beyond me.
You give up the seat because it’s the right thing to do. Nothing to do with equality, nothing to do with sleeping with her, nothing to do with hairy armpits or lack of bra.
I’ll concede she’s a bit trashy to make a fuss about it in the first place, she seems to be taking advantage of what is usually a gesture of kindness and not an obligation. But you should have offered before she even brought it up. Case closed.
As an aside, if you were trying to sleep with the girl the best advice is still to give her your seat, as it’s an opening to be able to start an easy going conversation and crack a couple flirty jokes, bragging about what a gentleman you must be (remember, these are jokes and delivery is everything). Sitting there, showing no class and refusing to give up your seat will not impress even the sloppiest of trash enough to sleep with you. And chances are you’re not even going to start a conversation with this girl unless you do offer to give up your seat.
Seriously, I don’t care what scenario we’re talking about, give up the damn seat. [/quote]
Care to explain WHY he should give up the seat?[/quote]
For the same reason you help a lost child, or help an old lady across the road or help push someone’s broken down car…because it’s the RIGHT thing to do or what a decent person should do.
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Read what you wrote again and ask yourself how is what you wrote not demeaning to women.
You just put females in the same category as lost children and the elderly in terms of self-sufficiency.
I will nearly always give up my seat to a woman. However the thing I hate the most in anybody is a sense of entitlement, or thinking they are better than other people. So if a woman makes it blatantly obvious they think I should give up my seat I won’t do it. If they had waited another 5 seconds I would have done it of my own accord. If a woman wants men to be chivalrous then she should be polite.
So what if she was a pushy broad, you’re giving up your seat not giving her a kidney.
That’s the point about doing people favours, you don’t get to choose to do them only for nice people. If I see a broken down car in the road I stop and help them push it to the side of the road. A few times the person has sat in the car while I did all the pushing rather than help (lazy bastard) but it didn’t matter. Helping out made ME feel good.
If you need someone to explain to you why it’s the right thing to do then helping people out is probably not your thing. I mean that little lost kid could be a sniveling little shit and probably wont even say thankyou.
I am with Dirtman and Raj. Things are different here in Canadia. We hold doors for everyone and generally with old guys excepted, we don’t have different rules for women.
I also agree with Raj’s sentiments of infantilizing adult women.
I would always give my seat to an elderly man first because I know some woman drove his hair to grey, his knees to weaken, his back to round, and his skin to wrinkle. I also know I am headed down that road and I would appreciate it when I was 80 and frumpy.
If there is no elderly man then women must prove themselves worthy of my seat. Usually that means any woman not in my generation because I think my generation’s women are 99% self-entitled hipster bitches who could use a little more exercise.
Plus, old ladies think I am cute and I enjoy making them smile 
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
That’s the point about doing people favours, you don’t get to choose to do them only for nice people.[/quote]
The hell I dont!
The only thing that the OP did wrong is when one jousts with imaginary knights that are windmills, usually you should keep it quiet.
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
That’s the point about doing people favours, you don’t get to choose to do them only for nice people.[/quote]
I totally do this. Nice people get favors, not nice people don’t.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
That’s the point about doing people favours, you don’t get to choose to do them only for nice people.[/quote]
I totally do this. Nice people get favors, not nice people don’t.[/quote]
Well how do you determine someone is nice before you help push their stuck car out of the snow or hand over a £20 note they’ve just dropped?