[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Claudan wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
All this talk about Elliott Rodger got me thinking, and much of the talk reminds me of George Sodini, the guy who shot a few women in an LA Fitness gym.
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Where/when/how do people develop a capacity for love?
In my opinion it comes from the mother. It’s the mother who needs to teach the son about love, patience and understanding. Obviously these idiots were so misguided that they were quicker to look outwards for problem-solving instead of inwards.
It’s something that has been occupying my mind lately because I’m speaking to one of my ex-girlfriends and she complains so much about how this guy or that guy would be perfect for her if they just showed some interest.
How the fuck do people grow up to become so oblivious?[/quote]
I am not sure they weren’t raised right. George Sodini spoke of his brother who was successful in his career and had a marriage. Well, how loving that marriage is beyond me. Who knows?
My mom is a very loving woman and spoiled and still does spoiled me in many ways. Well, now she attempts to still spoil me, but it doesn’t always work out. I believe she compensated because of my bottom-feeding, sinfully lazy dad who she divorced long ago. She probably thought, “I am taking over this family or this family is going nowhere.”
Meanwhile my brother and I have completely different personalities and tendencies. He not once had a self-esteem issue while I did. Not once in his life did he think, “Am I ever going to get a woman who likes me?” or “Am I ever going to be in love?” or “I am going to die alone”.
Perhaps these guys were misguided but they could have just turned out the way they did because despite parenting styles, people can still encounter all sorts of problems or lead their lives nothing like the way their parents did or espoused.
I am certain these two men could have had women if they had normal social skills and a healthier outlook on life.
Elliot Rodger did lead a tumultuous life from what I gather and was mercilessly bullied. However, he probably could have nabbed a petite bookworm, perhaps the type of person some would refer to as “mousy” or “a nerd” I believe, maybe even a cute one. Do I think he could have attracted the strapping, blonde Nordic women he fantasized about? No, I don’t. But he felt entitled to them, so much that he was driven mad and right in his own words sought out to kill such women.
I don’t think George Sodini was good looking, but he was ordinary looking and I’m convinced he could have had opportunities with more than enough women in his life in the twenty years that he spent without so much as kissing one. From the way he spoke and wrote, it was clear his thinking and worldview were completely warped and it seemed he too was another one fixated on beautiful women when he could have had some cute or ordinary women considering he worked out, appeared healthy, and had an alright job and a modest home. Seriously, if a guy has those things and doesn’t find a woman, it’s likely something is off. Personally I’d find dating, screwing, or even marrying ordinary women to be far more fulfilling than being lonely and celibate. [/quote]
I’m right next to the campus. The scene over here as far as women is pretty varied ethnically with the exception of Blacks. There’s a ton of Nord kids who come to town for Junior/ City College… A lot of them are pretty unassuming and open minded, the women are quite liberal in their sexuality. The tall blonde is a staple where they are from so you tend to see them date anything other than tall blondes, especially blacks and latinos. They are sort of notoriously easy.
Out in Isla Vista, as most campuses things are pretty wide open. It’s literally, “Hi my names blah, hey what are you doing tonight?” You can literally say that to 5 women, and unless you have herpes on your face, or vomit on your shirt you will probably have some success. Hell, if you want to go low you could probably get sex simply by staying sober enough to be dragged to bed by some horny sophomore.
I think it’s that this kid never learned the social skills as far as approaching the opposite sex without seeming needy or creepy. If girls were creeped out by him in the first place then the poor guy probably never even got friend zoned… And if he did get friend zoned he didn’t use that as an opportunity to learn and at least get comfortable and learn how to speak.