Eddie Van Halen...

Funny thing is, on a sober enough day, Ed can solo way better than that, even to this day. I saw them live a few times in '98 and '04. On a drunk enough night (like one night I saw them in '04) his playing was shitty. But on a sober enough night . . . Jeezus H. Christ! He was sober for the whole '98 tour and, despite having a fill-in singer that year, his playing was in-fucking-sane.

Everyone left saying, “WOW. That guitar TALKS.”

check out this unreleased track from 1976…sounds like stp !

This kid really is a frickin monster.
Another new comp.

Jeff Loomis and Chris Broderick pretty slay anyone with a guitar.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Yea - but those guys wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Eddie - he truly is the father of modern rock guitar.

No one played or sounded like that pre-1978. Eddie was the first to use a variac to crank up his pre-amp output and get that saturated, endlessly sustaining distortion and was the first to put a humbucker in a strat - not to mention his innovation with the tremolo bar.[/quote]

Randy Bachman used a device called a Garnet Herzog (which he helped design with the great Gar Gillies), which was basically the same thing long before anyone had heard of EVH. It can be heard on American Woman and No Time.

I would also say that Hendrix did a lot more tremolo innovation during Band of Gypsies…EVH took it to the next logical step, that better designs allowed.

The most underappreciated guitar player besides Lenny Breau.

Here’s one of my most favorite Van Halen songs.

[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
Here’s one of my most favorite Van Halen songs.

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Thanks for the stroll back to about '81 in college. I always liked this kinda darker album. Never saw VH live, but I always felt that EVH’s solos were too short for my taste. I believe I read Ritchie Blackmore was one of his inspirations. Ever hear that?

[quote]treco wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
Here’s one of my most favorite Van Halen songs.

Thanks for the stroll back to about '81 in college. I always liked this kinda darker album. Never saw VH live, but I always felt that EVH’s solos were too short for my taste. I believe I read Ritchie Blackmore was one of his inspirations. Ever hear that?[/quote]

yeah i love this album. it’s easily the best vh album and eddie plays some wild shit on there ! this is the only album where he stretches his solo ideas out longer than 2 bars. it’s like every other record he plays that 2 bar call and response stuff which is pretty boring.

Check out www.vhnd.com. Apparently Eddie is out of rehab and looks pretty healthy again. He cut his hair really short and sort of looks like the days of the Balance album.

Who knows, being sober might loosen up his senses and reunite with Michael Anthony and either Haggar or Roth.

[quote]TheSofaKing wrote:

Randy Bachman used a device called a Garnet Herzog (which he helped design with the great Gar Gillies), which was basically the same thing long before anyone had heard of EVH. It can be heard on American Woman and No Time.

I would also say that Hendrix did a lot more tremolo innovation during Band of Gypsies…EVH took it to the next logical step, that better designs allowed.

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That’s true, but the guitar tone on AW just sounds nowhere near as smooth as EVH’s sound on the early VH records. I understand what you’re saying, but as far as what I’d consider a modern rock guitar sound, no one had that until Van Halen.

And I’ve never been much of a Hendrix fan myself, but you do have a point. Hendrix always sounded like an out of tune mess to me, but then again, he’s impressed me many times as well. The way his axe just SCREAMS when he played the SSB at Woodstock - that sends chills down the spine. : )

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
This kid really is a frickin monster.
Another new comp.

Very impressive. Great tone, great feel, killer vibrato…

And did I read that right - he’s only 16?

Very nice…

how am I forgetting one of my all time favorites… Doc Watson…

[quote]swivel wrote:
treco wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
Here’s one of my most favorite Van Halen songs.

Thanks for the stroll back to about '81 in college. I always liked this kinda darker album… I believe I read Ritchie Blackmore was one of his inspirations. Ever hear that?

yeah i love this album. it’s easily the best vh album and eddie plays some wild shit on there ! this is the only album where he stretches his solo ideas out longer than 2 bars…[/quote]

Fair Warning has always been my favorite album by VH. I consider it a high point for Michael Anthony too, with great bass parts and the mix is just right. He actual does some Eddie-style two-handed hammer-ons right after the guitar solo [EDIT: of Mean Street that is…]

Best EVH Solo: Push Comes to Shove

FYI: The album artwork was done by some guy in a mental hospital for the criminally insane — a theme Eddie continued with the title of “5150”.

[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
swivel wrote:
treco wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
Here’s one of my most favorite Van Halen songs.

Thanks for the stroll back to about '81 in college. I always liked this kinda darker album… I believe I read Ritchie Blackmore was one of his inspirations. Ever hear that?

yeah i love this album. it’s easily the best vh album and eddie plays some wild shit on there ! this is the only album where he stretches his solo ideas out longer than 2 bars…

Fair Warning has always been my favorite album by VH. I consider it a high point for Michael Anthony too, with great bass parts and the mix is just right. He actual does some Eddie-style two-handed hammer-ons right after the guitar solo

Best EVH Solo: Push Comes to Shove

FYI: The album artwork was done by some guy in a mental hospital for the criminally insane — a theme Eddie continued with the title of “5150”.[/quote]

yeah that is a hot solo and a great tune. my favorite solo is on sinner’s swing there’s some serious frustration being let out on that one ! it’s like he put a chain saw through his amp and just kept going !

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
This kid really is a frickin monster.
Another new comp.

Very impressive. Great tone, great feel, killer vibrato…

And did I read that right - he’s only 16?

Very nice… [/quote]

Yes, he is 16 now as of a few months ago. He makes my hair stand on end (if I had any) that guy. The reason I dropped back by this thread, seeing that it’s pretty much become a general guitar thread is to report that Frankie Marino will be in town this month.

There’s an old time rivet head that can still melt the frets off an SG. I think I may have to go. 20 bucks and very small place. Should be fabulous.

Love EVH, glad to hear he’s sober and rippin’ it up again.

For you fans of virtuosic players, be sure to check out Danny Gatton and Lenny Breau, perhaps the two greatest players you’ve never heard of, and both unfortunately prematurely deceased.

Gatton is the most tasteful electric player I’ve ever heard – bar none. He could play jazz, bluegrass, country, rock, rockabilly, slide, you name it. The guy is just SLICK – incorporates a ton of techniques very fluidly. Great use of dynamics, tone, contrast. The MAN. Check out these clips…

Breau was a friend and contemporary of Chet Atkins. He was a jazz master who also was a great classical, fingerstyle, flamenco, country etc. Player. Just a flat-out genius.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
One thing my father taught me was that my liking or not liking somebody has nothing necessarily to do with how good they are as musicians.

I loved the Scorpions, simple metal with some decent leads from Micheal Schenker through Ulrich Roth and then Matthias Jabs. I couldn’t stand YES for the most part who had undeniably 100 times more musical ability than the Scorpions ever had.
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Sounds like your father was a wise man :o) When it comes to AC/DC…The stand out man will always be Bon Scott in my eyes. I love him fiercely, and for all their simplistic guitar playing and replacement singer stamina, Bon will always be my sole reason for never putting AC/DC out to pasture, on the whole.

I like that you mentioned The Scorpions, they were a solid band, I don’t care what anybody says. Rudolph Schenker is excellent, and his brother Michael certainly has his place among the best. I even have old UFO stuff. He just played here downtown, I didn’t get to catch the show unfortunately.

I think I’ve seen “World Wide Live” a hundred times since I was a kid. I’d love to own a copy now, …I’m a sucker for nostalgia.

The old man has still got it. Not only can he still pull of some rambunctious jazzy metal, but his blues playin ain’t sufferin much either.

A demo version of “House of Pain” from the 1984 album. I loved it. Check it out.