Eccentric-Less Training Without Sled

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]SwD wrote:
BTW an amazing “side effect” of eccentric-less training: it feels EASY to stretch afterwards. The difference was humougous.
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Very interesting… never noticed that![/quote]

Yeah I actually noticed it too. I noticed that my hamstrings (which are chronically tight) felt rather loose after sled pulling…I now use it as a warm up for squats.

Yesterday I went by the local autobody/tire shop and asked for an old tire. They told me they could not give away the tires they were planning on throwing away.

Last night I jogged by the place, liberated a tire from their stack-o-tires next to the dumpster, rolled that bitch home, drilled a couple of holes in the side and ran some rope ($5 for 50 feet at The Home Depot) through it.

drill an eye-bolt to it and usev chains it works nicer. Nothinh beats quick though.
The tyre method also doesn’t require as much loading but is harder to microadjust .
The tyre works well on grass. I think it would be to easy on concrete. Although I have only used mine on grass.

It can work well for max effort lower body too.

I bought an old snow sled (one of the round saucers) and tied some rope to the handles on the sled. Put some plates in the middle of the sled and you have a weight sled.


like this

[quote]WombatNation wrote:
Yesterday I went by the local autobody/tire shop and asked for an old tire. They told me they could not give away the tires they were planning on throwing away.

Last night I jogged by the place, liberated a tire from their stack-o-tires next to the dumpster, rolled that bitch home, drilled a couple of holes in the side and ran some rope ($5 for 50 feet at The Home Depot) through it.[/quote]

Thats funny they wouldnt just give you one seeming how much they spend to get rid of them. I had to get rid of my 500 pounder and it cost me $100 bucks. Which was relativley cheap compared to some of the other places that were asking for upward of $300 to take a tire of that size. jeesh.

[quote]Beast Status wrote:

[quote]tyciol wrote:
I like the idea of riding a sled down the hill, and you can even drag someone up the hill on the sled and ride down together.

Or if you don’t have a sled, maybe roll down.[/quote]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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Every time I read this, I almost die laughing. ADD people are easily amused.

What do you guys think of this for upper body:
Using a free-motion cable machine, Perform the concentric lift & then quickly walk back to the machine in the cable handles stating position.

So essentially you press or pull & then walk back=1 rep No eccentric

A possible downside: the individual does have to isometrically hold a contracted position for as long as it takes to bring the cable back to the starting position. This would only takes less than a second…but a sled has no isometric hold

[quote]WombatNation wrote:
Yesterday I went by the local autobody/tire shop and asked for an old tire. They told me they could not give away the tires they were planning on throwing away.

Last night I jogged by the place, liberated a tire from their stack-o-tires next to the dumpster, rolled that bitch home, drilled a couple of holes in the side and ran some rope ($5 for 50 feet at The Home Depot) through it.[/quote]

“liberated” haha, nice usage there!

I’ve been doing some eccentric-less upper body training by just dropping down at the top of dips and pull ups. Get a few weird looks but other than that can’t see much of a downside.

Also rowing machines have no eccentric stress so I’ve been doing the odd 2K here and there.

Get some blast straps and improvise something. Here is me doing some eccentric-less work with a bench and blast straps looped through the legs:

[quote]glenn pendlay wrote:
Something that I have used in the past with many lifters is to go to a local hotel or other fairly tall building, and have lifters run up 3-4 flights of stairs, then take the elevator down. Dumbells can be held in the hands if needed.

Recently when I was stuck in Guatemala city with the airport shut down after a volcanic eruption, I used this quite a bit, there was no other training option.[/quote]

I’m sure Glenn is long gone from this thread, but maybe someone else can chime in.

Is walking down the stairs that detrimental, or would it produce a different result than taking the elevator back down. I understand the concept of eccentric-less training as it applies to weighted exercises, but the stairs thing doesn’t make sense to me.

You can use your leg to take the eccentric out of tricep extensions against a wall. kind of hard to describe but if you try it you’lll work it out

Homemade sled. Simple and efficient, you don’t need any skill nor wasting big money to make your own sled. All you need is an old tire, some chains and carabiners.
Yesterday I added up to 225 Ibs of plates, no problem, it works like a charm!

[quote]BiP wrote:

[quote]Sik wrote:

Yes i’m able to get i search after you write TRX. But i came WTF, thats a lot for a bands lol

Yes i ship a lot of things from uk without any problem, and i will try to attach a handles to the rope i found some that are used in the cables machines that can easily be attached.

PS: Do you use rubber bands? I was searching a good supplier in europe, as CT only talk about Iron woods and another one… i found pullum, but i’m searching for more alternatives. Thanks for the support![/quote]

I was thinking about getting some from Pullum after the new year, but I don’t know if they’re the cheapest yet. I’ll have to research it a bit this Christmas. I know they sell FatGripz for a much higher price than several other places in the UK, so it’s not unlikely there is a cheaper place for bands somewhere too.

B.[/quote]
I know this is months late but you can get bands from strength shop. I’ve not tried any others but it was cheaper than Pullum last time I checked (but then again, everywhere is cheaper than Pullum sports.)

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