[quote]JN7844 wrote:
Have you ever looked into competitive eating? Perhaps you should be learning from them…
The worst part of that video is the horrible squishy sound they kept using when Pete ate the meatballs. Faked and unnecessary!
OP,
First, I get the impression you’re a little high strung, relax. All the ball busting is in good fun.
Secondly, listen to what Airtruth said about not trying to jump right to ~5,000kcals/day. If it’s physically making you sick (I assume that if you’re vomiting occasionally, then you feel like shit most days at some point), then it won’t be sustainable in the long term.
Third, here are a few tips/observations:
- Replace some of the water with milk or other beverages containing calories.
- Veggies, while healthy and convenient, are extremely low calorie-wise and so not a great snack with your task at hand. If you still want something like that then switch to fruit. Although still not calorie dense, it is sweeter and has a tendency to digest faster/leave you hungry sooner.
- Nuts are a great snack (I know you already mentioned these).
- Bring protein powder to school in baggies. I do this for work. Just buy a refillable water bottle and carry it all day. Shoot for a shake every 2-3 hours. This is to be taken WITH nuts and any other meal, it is not just solely a meal on its own.
- BONEZ humour is funny as hell!
Also, metabolism can be a funny thing and “auto-regulates”, so although it’s a good idea to have an idea of your caloric intake, don’t even try to “manage” it to Xkcals/lbs. More frequent meals tend to raise your metabolism while skipping breakfast and eating only 1-2 large meals a day drops it.
Although it would appear that the shortest way to gain weight would be to go with only a couple very large meals, my preference is to eat more frequently and raise my metabolism. For me, it seems to aid my training/recovery better. If you go for the more frequent meals, then don’t always stuff yourself. For example, if you eat lunch at noon, then at ~10:00am, have a shake (~40g protein), some nuts and maybe some fruit. This shouldn’t fill you, then at noon your hungry again and ready for a bigger whole food meal. Repeat prior to dinner.
Here’s an example of what I was doing:
Wake up 4:00am - Shake and fruit
(nap on train)
At work 6:15am - Eat breakfast: oatmeal with protein powder, fruit
(snack on nuts/dried fruit/peanutbutter/whatever)
9:30am-10:00am - Protein shake, sometimes rice or pasta (depends on schedule) otherwise just continue to graze
11:30 - Lunch some sort of meat w/ rice or pasta
(graze)
2:00pm protein shake
(graze)
4:00pm protein shake and leave work
(nap on train)
5:30-6:00pm home for dinner meat and whatever
8:30pm leftovers
10:00pm train
11:30pm Shake, rice/pasta/whatever
bed
repeat
Really what you need to do is find out when your eating opportunities are, then plan accordingly. Knowing my schedule, if I didn’t have 4 bags of protein in my back pack then I wouldn’t have them that day.
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
I eat calorically dense foods [/quote]
No you don’t. Yogurt, bags of veggies, rice; these are not calorically dense foods.
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
Ok, from the last 3 posts:
BONEZ is not me.
hungry4more is someone I thank greatly for his advice and will most deff. be giving that a shot.
And Josh didn’t read this thread.
I thank you all once more for your advice and patience!
And BONEZ, forget eating for a minute - you’ve never ran so hard you’ve puked? Squatted so hard you’ve puked?
By the same logic, I could call you a pussy for not “training hard enough.”
Or maybe you could just accept that I JUST MIGHT be anatomically different from you, based on the fact we’re two different people. I thank you for giving me something to aspire to (WHEN I GROW UP I WANT A STOMACH OF STEEL JUST LIKE BONEZ) but what I’m looking for here is advice (hungry4more gets it perfectly).[/quote]
No. I’ve honestly never come close to vomiting from lifting weights. Food is what makes you grow. Lifting weights so recklessly that you lose your meal is counter productive.
Yea OP, you still weird me out. There is also zero chance that I am taking anything you say personally, as I have no developed no respect for you or your knowledge of training/nutrition, so get over that.
I think you need to stop whining, eat, train, and continue to read/learn. In the end, the simple answer to your question was that it takes time, effort, and continued practice (as does achieving almost any goal). Reasoning that out on your own doesn’t seem like a monumental feat.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
Ok, from the last 3 posts:
BONEZ is not me.
hungry4more is someone I thank greatly for his advice and will most deff. be giving that a shot.
And Josh didn’t read this thread.
I thank you all once more for your advice and patience!
And BONEZ, forget eating for a minute - you’ve never ran so hard you’ve puked? Squatted so hard you’ve puked?
By the same logic, I could call you a pussy for not “training hard enough.”
Or maybe you could just accept that I JUST MIGHT be anatomically different from you, based on the fact we’re two different people. I thank you for giving me something to aspire to (WHEN I GROW UP I WANT A STOMACH OF STEEL JUST LIKE BONEZ) but what I’m looking for here is advice (hungry4more gets it perfectly).[/quote]
No. I’ve honestly never come close to vomiting from lifting weights. Food is what makes you grow. Lifting weights so recklessly that you lose your meal is counter productive.
[/quote]
I agree. There are those who somehow feel lifting until you puke means you are more manly or doing a higher quality of work. There are even some contributors on this site that portray that attitude. However, I think it is ridiculous to push yourself until you vomit. I don’t find that to be manly. And, like one contributor posted, vomiting is one of the most catabolic things you can do. Just because I don’t enter the gym with a bucket in hand doesn’t mean I am not pushing myself.
Christopher
OP: I’m a hard gainer and I went through the same thing. I wasn’t puking up meals or anything but I was having a hard time getting everything down. That was when I was trying to eat nothing but clean foods. It became 100 times easier when I allowed myself to eat some dirtier foods like pizza, burgers, pop tarts etc. Not only was it way easier to stomach but I progressed way quicker.
So I’ll tell you what I wish some one told me a while ago: Dude you’re a hard gainer and your trying to put on weight, you don’t have to eat clean 100% of the time right now. I’m not saying to completely blow out your diet and start hitting up burger king 5 times a day. But a large pizza is a way easier way to get 1000 calories than 2 pounds of boneless skinless chicken breast.
try to spread out your meals more. many people have said to drink about a liter of water before bed so you’ll wake up in the middle of the night to add in another meal. you should try to see how competitive eaters train. throwing up once a week will give you health problems in the future so do not deal with it like someone said. or you can smoke weed before you eat, you wont throwup
Also, make “puppy shit” your new best friend. Bring a batch or two with you everywhere you go to snack on.
Mix about 1/3 cup peanut butter, 1-3 tsp honey, and 1 rounded scoop chocolate protein powder in a tupperware container. Once it’s thoroughly mixed up, through a cover on that bitch, and you have a poor man’s weight gainer. Tasty, protein rich, calorie dense, cheap, and extremely portable.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Also, make “puppy shit” your new best friend. Bring a batch or two with you everywhere you go to snack on.
Mix about 1/3 cup peanut butter, 1-3 tsp honey, and 1 rounded scoop chocolate protein powder in a tupperware container. Once it’s thoroughly mixed up, through a cover on that bitch, and you have a poor man’s weight gainer. Tasty, protein rich, calorie dense, cheap, and extremely portable. [/quote]
That “shit” sounds awesome. I’m gonna make a batch tonight for work.
You’re jacked, but your barracks room avatars are extremely depressing. Take a pic on the beach or something.
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
[quote]Snydiesel609 wrote:
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
I am but only a man :'([/quote]
That type of mindset might just be your problem. I eat 6 whole eggs plus spinach heavy cream and some form of breakfast meat cooked in olive oil every morning. Man up.[/quote]
Hi there. Sorry for not being overly… blatant… in my fake hurt earlier. What do you weigh again, out of curiosity I mean.
Like, 160? Maybe 180? I need to get up, shower, scarf down that breakfast and high-tail it to school. I’m sure I could labor through 4 whole scrambled eggs in addition to the whole-milk 8oz of yogurt/12oz shake/olive oil. But then I’d be late for the life I have to continue living. For the record, “get up earlier and eat like its your job” is what I already do. I have a 40 minute commute for the last two months of school - I’m not BAWWWing, I’m just letting you know I’m not a pussy and I’m commited to getting un-skinnyfag. I’m making progress, I just need to know if you guys have any methodology to push your limit on how much you can eat.
For instance, I’ve heard some guys suck on an icecube when they feel they’ve crossed the line. That shit WORKS.
Edit: Sorry if I sound defensive and qualify all the shit I’m saying (like about my commute to school). I’ve noticed when you’re the fresh meat in a forum full of dudes bigger than houses and old enough to be your dad, you gotta have a shitload of humility and listen - but you also need to keep your guard up or get ripped to shreds. I value everything you guys are saying, but don’t think I’m being a prissy emo when I say I have a little difficulty keeping down a million pounds of food when my entire being weighs in at 140. (That ISN’T an excuse, I’m trying to put things in perspective for our house-sized senior members.)[/quote]
My breakfast :
8 egg whites
2 scoops of whey
300ml of orange juice
1 cup of oat
all in a big shaker
shake : 30 secs
drink : 20secs
eat a fruit
Total time : 2min30
macro : ~75g prot, ~85g carbs
fast breakfast.
OK we need to now begin to pretend I’ve never vomited in my life because this is out of proportion. In the last year (thats 365 days) I’ve probably lost less than six meals. Thats bi-monthly at most, so lets drop the notion I’m retarded and gorge my face.
On the plus side, normal hazing aside this thread has been awesome - the idea of drinking whey while in class is friggin grade A. I’ll let you guys know where I am weight-wise in like two weeks.
I started out at exactly 137 three days ago (morning weigh-in post dump etc) so we’ll see how it goes.
I aim for like, 150 by the end of summer.
Hey Capn, you might consider taking digestive enzymes with your meals. I did that at least twice a day with my biggest meals when I was bulking, and it seemed to help a lot with digesting and getting the most out of my foods while also minimizing stomach upset, gas, and/or bloating.
[quote]AdamLaw wrote:
Hey Capn, you might consider taking digestive enzymes with your meals. I did that at least twice a day with my biggest meals when I was bulking, and it seemed to help a lot with digesting and getting the most out of my foods while also minimizing stomach upset, gas, and/or bloating. [/quote]
I use digestive enzymes at breakfast, lunch and dinner and think they are a great supplement no matter what your goals are.
[quote]AdamLaw wrote:
Hey Capn, you might consider taking digestive enzymes with your meals. I did that at least twice a day with my biggest meals when I was bulking, and it seemed to help a lot with digesting and getting the most out of my foods while also minimizing stomach upset, gas, and/or bloating. [/quote]
This I can affirm deff. Do you use a mixed enzyme cap or just HCl? I have both, and I’ve always wondered if there really was a difference in effect on me - never noticed one, though. Both work great (One is straight up HCl with Pepsin, the other is HCl + Pepsin + other stuff)
vomiting is no big deal. man up clean off your face and eat again. and two eggs at breakfast… no wonder no gains. try 6 or 8. I have to get up for school too it sucks but you just have to wake up ten min earlier.
Listen brah you need just need to eat more which you obviously aren’t doing (2 eggs for breakfast). Here’s what I would do, ready?
Make that shake, drink it. Put as many eggs as you can fit in a pot with water and put it on the stove at high heat. Get in the shower, turn off the water once it hits a boil. Cover it and leave it for 15 minutes. Now take those hard boiled eggs in the car with you and you have 40 minutes to eat your eggs so you don’t vomit. NO EXCUSES.
I’ve had good luck with diet ginger ale recently. I think it’s the combination of ginger and carbonation. Diet Coke doesn’t do the same thing. In the past, I used capsules with ginger in them with success too.
Oh, and far as that breakfast goes, here’s some fast solid food options:
a) breakfast microwavable pork sausage-loaded with calories for how much volume you’re consuming
b) you can microwave some bacon
c) prepare breakfast burritos the night before and pop them in the microwave
b) loaded oatmeal- prepare with whole milk, add a few tablespoons of butter, add fruit or applauce, add a scoop of protein powder. Oatmeal is awsome, it’s like a blank slate you can add anything to and it helps regulate my GI so I don’t get naseated as easily in the morning.
-this is my favorite along with jimmy dean sausage at the moment, gives me an easy 1000Cals.
For the rest of day, how about munching on some nuts throughout the day, hell you can do it while you study. Cheese is high calorie too. I get the feeling that if you start to eat foods with high-calories/unit-volume, much of your problem would subside.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
lol @ 2 scrambled eggs. Thats what my grandma got when we went out for brunch on sunday. [/quote]
HAHAHHA SO TRUE