Eating Too Hard?

Buy a quality blender, give it a name.

Get used to it being your companion and best friend. Drink from it, sleep with it, bring it to work with you, bring it to the gym, shit with it, surf T-Nation with it.

I’ve always just used a mixed enzyme complex, but without any HCl. I also take a probiotic complex with 14 Billion CFU’s. I’ve noticed a lot better breakdown of food once it’s in the GI tract, along with just feeling healthier in general.

Yeah, this is wierd. OP I think your meals aren’t properly timed or spaced.

When I was going to college I would have food in my backpack. I had a 2L of green tea to sip on all day and when it came meal time I had 2 shakers. In each shaker cup was 2 scoops of whey and 1/2 cup oats. For you it should be 1 cup oats per meal.

Bring a baggie of almonds and munch em down. Easy 1000 extra calories from those two meals, won’t make you puke.

Eat more of you favorite foods. Chances are you’ll keep em down. If they’re real dirty, clean em up a bit!

Oh and by the way, regular ground beef made into patties is portable, and real dense. Eat two patties + 2oz (2 handfuls) or almonds and we’re talking 1000 calories. Won’t make you puke, the volume isn’t there but the calories are!

Yeah Dark, I think I found my issue.

Very, very recently I picked up a tub of a different brand name weightgainer - lets say it was pricey and I know the stuff is effective. It mixes like cement.

Dropped that, and I’m back to feeling great and still huge without the bloat.

Goddamn regimen changes.

As a fellow hardgainer (Started around 175 @ 6’2", now 215) here are a few things I found useful.

-GOMAD. I thought I was eating a lot, then I found out I could eat more. Then I drank a gallon of milk a day along with four big meals (~1000 kcals each). I Did that for a month and went from 195 to 210. I am now able to eat much more than I was able to before. I do not know how much of it is physiological and how much is psychological, but something changed.

-Bacon. For some reason I can eat as much crispy delicious bacon as I can fit on my plate. Try thick cut applewood smoked bacon. Good stuff.

-Cheat. If you are a skinny guy, you can probably tolerate carbs pretty well. Dump some cream into your shakes or have some quick sugar a few minutes before a meal as an appetizer. Also, this can remind you that eating can be enjoyable.

-Lift less. I know that sounds rather radical but bare with me. While lifting and eating are synergistic to growth they are also antagonistic. Every hour you spend training is an hour you are burning energy and not eating. Past a certain point additional training does not produce an additional training effect. I am not advocating any drastic cuts, but perhaps try dropping the volume by 20% or so for a few weeks and see how it works.

[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
Yeah Dark, I think I found my issue.

Very, very recently I picked up a tub of a different brand name weightgainer - lets say it was pricey and I know the stuff is effective. It mixes like cement.

Dropped that, and I’m back to feeling great and still huge without the bloat.

Goddamn regimen changes.[/quote]

Also, ‘chewing’ your protein shakes can help it digest. Just munch your mouth a couple of times before swallowing.

[quote]jt9292 wrote:
vomiting is no big deal. man up clean off your face and eat again.quote]

Sage advice.

Can also be used for drinking.

the only time I had a problem with throwing up and eating was when I had latex elastics for my braces, switched to non-latex elastics and I was fine again. no idea if you have elastics for braces, but if you do maybe check that out.

the problem may not always stem from what you think it is

less olive oil shots more eggs!

[quote]Kerley wrote:
less olive oil shots more eggs![/quote]

This is something a lotta people would benefit from. Eggs have good fats AND protein…olive oil only has the fats.

Shit. You don’t need to eat like a 200 lb bodybuilder right off the bat if you’re 140. Eat like a 145 lber first. Then 150. etc. Is it really necessary to stuff yourself every meal far beyond your appetite and shovel down all the calories possible? Can you really benefit from this?

Maybe I’m not in a position to comment on this (I am also only 140 lb, though I was 128 4 months ago). Maybe I’m not a true hardgainer, even though I was small as fuck/didn’t gain a lb for years before giving it effort. Maybe I could be gaining more if I WAS forcing down food. Idk. But it seems to me its not really necessary - it doesn’t seem like you really need to eat all that much more than you naturally want to/are able to. Just make sure your intake is consistent, and increase as appetite increases or if you stopped gaining weight/making progress.

I’ve actually noticed that if I go all out and stuff myself its game over for the day, I won’t feel like eating for far too long, not to mention its just uncomfortable. If I just eat moderate amounts more frequently I can eat more overall and its not really much of a chore, from a stomaching perspective. Also, if your mindset is always stuck in “I’ve got to fight with this food and force down a really uncomfortable amount” mode its going to be really hard to eat and you might actually end up eating less than you would if you took (what feels like) a more moderate approach.

Taking the ordinary road doesn’t lead to out-of-the-ordinary results.

If it was easy, everyone would be big.

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Taking the ordinary road doesn’t lead to out-of-the-ordinary results.

If it was easy, everyone would be big. [/quote]

Truth. I have to syke myself out to finish every meal like i’m gettin ready to break a pr lol. but hey, i’m finally gaining.

[quote]thogue wrote:
Shit. You don’t need to eat like a 200 lb bodybuilder right off the bat if you’re 140. Eat like a 145 lber first. Then 150. etc. Is it really necessary to stuff yourself every meal far beyond your appetite and shovel down all the calories possible? Can you really benefit from this?

Maybe I’m not in a position to comment on this (I am also only 140 lb, though I was 128 4 months ago). Maybe I’m not a true hardgainer, even though I was small as fuck/didn’t gain a lb for years before giving it effort. Maybe I could be gaining more if I WAS forcing down food. Idk. But it seems to me its not really necessary - it doesn’t seem like you really need to eat all that much more than you naturally want to/are able to. Just make sure your intake is consistent, and increase as appetite increases or if you stopped gaining weight/making progress.

I’ve actually noticed that if I go all out and stuff myself its game over for the day, I won’t feel like eating for far too long, not to mention its just uncomfortable. If I just eat moderate amounts more frequently I can eat more overall and its not really much of a chore, from a stomaching perspective. Also, if your mindset is always stuck in “I’ve got to fight with this food and force down a really uncomfortable amount” mode its going to be really hard to eat and you might actually end up eating less than you would if you took (what feels like) a more moderate approach.[/quote]

Ask any naturally skinny guy who has put on a significant amount of weight if he’s ever had to force feed himself past the point of being full. 9+ times out of 10 the answer is yes.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]thogue wrote:
Shit. You don’t need to eat like a 200 lb bodybuilder right off the bat if you’re 140. Eat like a 145 lber first. Then 150. etc. Is it really necessary to stuff yourself every meal far beyond your appetite and shovel down all the calories possible? Can you really benefit from this?

Maybe I’m not in a position to comment on this (I am also only 140 lb, though I was 128 4 months ago). Maybe I’m not a true hardgainer, even though I was small as fuck/didn’t gain a lb for years before giving it effort. Maybe I could be gaining more if I WAS forcing down food. Idk. But it seems to me its not really necessary - it doesn’t seem like you really need to eat all that much more than you naturally want to/are able to. Just make sure your intake is consistent, and increase as appetite increases or if you stopped gaining weight/making progress.

I’ve actually noticed that if I go all out and stuff myself its game over for the day, I won’t feel like eating for far too long, not to mention its just uncomfortable. If I just eat moderate amounts more frequently I can eat more overall and its not really much of a chore, from a stomaching perspective. Also, if your mindset is always stuck in “I’ve got to fight with this food and force down a really uncomfortable amount” mode its going to be really hard to eat and you might actually end up eating less than you would if you took (what feels like) a more moderate approach.[/quote]

Ask any naturally skinny guy who has put on a significant amount of weight if he’s ever had to force feed himself past the point of being full. 9+ times out of 10 the answer is yes.[/quote]

Force feeding every day for 3 years? Yep. At some point it begins to feel normal though, I’ll say that much. Although I dont consider myself to have gained a significant amount of muscle on, yet.

[quote]The Answer wrote:
OP: I’m a hard gainer and I went through the same thing. I wasn’t puking up meals or anything but I was having a hard time getting everything down. That was when I was trying to eat nothing but clean foods. It became 100 times easier when I allowed myself to eat some dirtier foods like pizza, burgers, pop tarts etc. Not only was it way easier to stomach but I progressed way quicker.

So I’ll tell you what I wish some one told me a while ago: Dude you’re a hard gainer and your trying to put on weight, you don’t have to eat clean 100% of the time right now. I’m not saying to completely blow out your diet and start hitting up burger king 5 times a day. But a large pizza is a way easier way to get 1000 calories than 2 pounds of boneless skinless chicken breast. [/quote]

I’ve had good success with pizza buffets on workout days, it’s absolutely wonderful to plow into a pizza buffet with abandon and down 5,000 calories in a meal.

But you better be ready to do a solid, intense workout afterwards so your body will actuall put some muscle on with that mega-meal.

Do you really need to eat up to the point of throwing up? I once ate to the point where my body would not allow me to eat anymore. I waited for 15 minutes then ate some more, and I still didn’t throw up. You must be eating ridiculous amounts of food to reach that point, are you sure that’s necessary?

[quote]50_Caliber wrote:

[quote]The Answer wrote:
OP: I’m a hard gainer and I went through the same thing. I wasn’t puking up meals or anything but I was having a hard time getting everything down. That was when I was trying to eat nothing but clean foods. It became 100 times easier when I allowed myself to eat some dirtier foods like pizza, burgers, pop tarts etc. Not only was it way easier to stomach but I progressed way quicker.

So I’ll tell you what I wish some one told me a while ago: Dude you’re a hard gainer and your trying to put on weight, you don’t have to eat clean 100% of the time right now. I’m not saying to completely blow out your diet and start hitting up burger king 5 times a day. But a large pizza is a way easier way to get 1000 calories than 2 pounds of boneless skinless chicken breast. [/quote]

I’ve had good success with pizza buffets on workout days, it’s absolutely wonderful to plow into a pizza buffet with abandon and down 5,000 calories in a meal.

But you better be ready to do a solid, intense workout afterwards so your body will actuall put some muscle on with that mega-meal.[/quote]

Hmm…I prefer to eat a shitload of food AFTER the gym…but that’s just me…

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
lol @ 2 scrambled eggs. Thats what my grandma got when we went out for brunch on sunday. [/quote]

TC or whoever adds quotes to the “Strong Words” engine.

Please, please add this one.

LMFAO.