Looking for some advise on Box Squats using dumbbells
Do i use normal Squating down to the box with dumbbells running down the sides of my legs, or Powerlifting style with feet very wide apart and dumbbells coming down in between my legs
Thx for the help guys i cant place any weight on my back so this is the best i can do for now
Best i can do for my legs atm is leg press max weight i can do without pain is 400lbs aim for 20 rep sets going past parallel always…
I have done some box squats with dumbbells before and really like them, and want to jsut get some more legs movements into my workouts Thx
I previously injured my lower back. When I do back squats, I walk with pain for two weeks. With front squats, I’m pain free. I don’t give a shit what anyone has to say about it.
Also, he never said spinal health or injury was the reason he can’t put weight on his back (although thats probably what he meant). Maybe he has a horribly infected wound at the base of his neck in the back and between his shoulder blades.
Front squats put less strain on the lower back, the link you provided did nothing to prove otherwise. It is an issue of leverage; when in a front squat your back is more upright than with the back squat.
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Front squats put less strain on the lower back, the link you provided did nothing to prove otherwise. It is an issue of leverage; when in a front squat your back is more upright than with the back squat.[/quote]
LOL. That is pretty funny when you click the link. His “proof” is just text saying “This always blows my mind” (when people say front squats are safer for the back).
There you have it, there is now absolutely no way any reasonable person can argue that front squats cause less pain, since the opposite is supported with this complexly scientific statment, proven through a meta-analysis of peer reviewed journal articles, as well as a wealth of anecdotal evidence.
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Front squats put less strain on the lower back, the link you provided did nothing to prove otherwise. It is an issue of leverage; when in a front squat your back is more upright than with the back squat.[/quote]
X2. I have a herniated disc and couldn’t back squat 135 lbs without alot of back pain. I was up to 245 for reps on front squat with zero lower back pain. Most of the force is transferred to your upper back when you front squat and there’s less compressive force on your discs when the weight isn’t directly above your spine.
[quote]gremlin1267 wrote:
Old school behind the back hack squats for quads. Trap bar squats. Done.
v/r
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x 2 with this.
I can also imagine that very very heavy dumbbell walking lunges will do the trick. They always destroy my entire lower body and thats usually only after one all out set.
thx for the comments guys…yep im working threw a mild disc bulge in lower back and problems with T5 and T11 upper back so when i put weight on my back the mid back muscles would pay…being over tight and aching sore to much to handle…
im try the heavy dumbbell walking lunges Thx ebomb"
Also today i tested the waters with back squats again did only 160lbs 5 sets 3 reps then 2 sets 90lbs 20 reps oly style and power lifting style
back feels great first time have squated in 1.5yrs
hopefully i can go slow and get shit strong and neva have pain again…
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Front squats put less strain on the lower back, the link you provided did nothing to prove otherwise. It is an issue of leverage; when in a front squat your back is more upright than with the back squat.[/quote]
LOL. That is pretty funny when you click the link. His “proof” is just text saying “This always blows my mind” (when people say front squats are safer for the back).
There you have it, there is now absolutely no way any reasonable person can argue that front squats cause less pain, since the opposite is supported with this complexly scientific statment, proven through a meta-analysis of peer reviewed journal articles, as well as a wealth of anecdotal evidence.
LOL[/quote]
Just because the weight is in the front doesnt mean there is zero torque on the spine, it is just less since due to leverage you have to use less weight. The fact the front squat provides less torque on the spine and the use of lighter weights leads some people to think that front squats cannot mess up your back. The possibility is there is you are doing them incorrectly or if your back is not ready.
There is some good info on the whole front vs back squat issue here:
Firstly, I don’t mean to hijack this thread but I was wondering if there were advantages to learning how to box squat (as opposed to regular squats pushing the butt slightly below parallel)? Is box squat mainly for powerlifters or more about learning correct technique (thru box squats)? Thanks.
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Front squats put less strain on the lower back, the link you provided did nothing to prove otherwise. It is an issue of leverage; when in a front squat your back is more upright than with the back squat.[/quote]
LOL. That is pretty funny when you click the link. His “proof” is just text saying “This always blows my mind” (when people say front squats are safer for the back).
There you have it, there is now absolutely no way any reasonable person can argue that front squats cause less pain, since the opposite is supported with this complexly scientific statment, proven through a meta-analysis of peer reviewed journal articles, as well as a wealth of anecdotal evidence.
LOL[/quote]
Just because the weight is in the front doesnt mean there is zero torque on the spine, it is just less since due to leverage you have to use less weight. The fact the front squat provides less torque on the spine and the use of lighter weights leads some people to think that front squats cannot mess up your back. The possibility is there is you are doing them incorrectly or if your back is not ready.
There is some good info on the whole front vs back squat issue here:
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lol, hope you’re trolling. Myself and sam sneed both said we have lower back problems, and back squats cause pain, front squats don’t. That is the end of the issue, there is no debate. Bodybuilding is about experience, its not something you master through “book learning”
[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
Firstly, I don’t mean to hijack this thread but I was wondering if there were advantages to learning how to box squat (as opposed to regular squats pushing the butt slightly below parallel)? Is box squat mainly for powerlifters or more about learning correct technique (thru box squats)? Thanks.[/quote]
You can read all you need to know about box squats in the link I provided in the third post in this thread
