Duke Girl Publishes Report on Sex?

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

Making a judgement call on this girl having serious issues isn’t too smart, either.[/quote]

and one of the reasons why I really like you. You have been there, done that and are not judgmental.

The woman was sold out by a friend so that kinda already says she isn’t a great judge of character. None of my friends would do that to me. [/quote]

Thank you very much, OG!

This girl is young and in college, where you’re supposed to learn and experience LIFE. We ALL did dumb shit when we were here age.

Hell, she should’ve kept all that information in her head…like guys do.

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
Virgins and mail-order-bride grooms stop ruining this thread with your whiny arguments.
Clifft notes:

-Yes, this girl’s a slut!
-Sluts are awesome!
-KrazyKK just for you I’m going to bang a married woman tonight…

Her husband will be there as well, tho…

Hijack: She told me to call her when I get to the house instead of ringing, 'cause the kids are sleeping.

Now to be prepared for the worst case scenario I’m wondering, how would you guys explain to a 5-10year old (guesstimate from the woman’s age) why you are naked with mommy and daddy in the living room?

I thought about something along the lines of fixing the heaters, then it got so hot we all had to take off our clothes and now we’re looking for some lost equipment on the floor…
Anyone got a better idea? Thoughts much appreciated!
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If she looks anything like that…no props.

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Eh, I personally think the main problem is that she showcased it like that. I’m sure plenty of people talk about that kinda stuff to their friends plenty, but as a giant prude, that seems kinda bleh. To me, 13 partners in 4 years is a lot, but I’ve got literally zero game, so that’s probably not too much compared to the average.

Also, DD, for some reason, I guess the way you present yourself on the interwebs, I always think you’re in your mid-thirties even though I know you’re in your mid-twenties. Jeebus.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. [/quote]

Why?
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Like I said, I feel that sex is important and private and is something that should be between people in a monogamous relationship. Doesn’t mean married, I’ve never been, but I don’t agree with hookups/one-night stands/etc. I feel that they are wrong.

Doesn’t mean that I think they’re bad people. I’m not condemning them to hell. Saying they’ll be horrible parents. That I wouldn’t associate or be friends with them. Or anything along those lines. I just feel that the decisions they are making in that regard are wrong. They are free to do whatever they want, it’s just not for me.[/quote]

But you’re not just saying it’s just not for me, you’re saying it’s wrong. What then does it mean to be wrong?

So why is it they are wrong?[/quote]

No. its a personal moral judgment. me thinking its immoral is no more an arbitrary judgment than thinking it is not immoral.

all moral judgments are based in the arbitrary, not reason. name me one moral based in reason.

and there are lots of logical reasons to not be permiscuous, but none of them justfy the morals of it.

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[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
“The University is pissed. The dudes are pissed. The parents of the athletes are pissed.”

LOL, I’m willing to bet the guy she rated 12/10 isn’t pissed. [/quote]

Meh, I think it’s mostly feigned indignation. When all is said and done, any publicity is good publicity. In the words of circus promoter P.T. Barnum: “I don’t care what anyone writes about me as long as they spell my name correctly.”[/quote]

I disagree.

Any of those guys could use “hey did you hear about that duke girls sex history report? I’m one of the guys!” as a pick up line in a bar, however, whether said guy goes home with the girl or not is if, when she asks “oh, which one were you?”, he answers “the guy she rated a 12/10” or “the guy she rated 3.5/10.”

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

wow… some guys have some issues with women who are independent and in control of their own body and desire.

Thanks Bushy and Utah

and I prefer the word “slut” to whore, I just give it away for free

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Who specifically are you talking about?[/quote]

haha! do you think I would have a problem calling you or KrazyK out?

I really don’t.

I also do not think 13 guys in 4 years is a lot of men these days.

More than me, but… I am a frigid virgin in many respects.

You seem to be very judgmental about her sexuality. How exactly did it impact you? I kinda think it didn’t.

Good thing KrazyK could go and find a foreign virginal bride.

Go on and dole out more haterade fella, you just seem to be a tool to me. I speak only for myself. Others may be applauding your way of summarizing the situation and crucifying the woman who shared the report with “two” friends. One of whom is an asshole.

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Who said anything about a callout? I just genuinely wasn’t sure if you were referring to me. How did my moral judgment affect you? I kinda think it didn’t, so why all this haterade and tool name calling? I haven’t called a single person in this thread a judgmental name (unlike you). Not one person has advocated any sort of punishment, so drop the crucifying martyr BS. I haven’t hated on anyone. I don’t care what she does. I don’t condemn her for it. I’d still be her friends with a person who sleeps around. Who exactly is the one hating? You call me a tool for thinking sleeping around with random people is bad?

You are really tempting me to make some sexist time of the month joke. Normally I like reading your posts, but damn, there seems to be a lot of projection going on or something. [/quote]

You are judgmental. Accept it, own it, that is you.

I have no haterade going on, more like head shaking and exasperation.

You may not condemn her for her behavior but you sure as heck have some insulting things to say about her.

Take a step back and see that you have absolutely judged this adult woman for living her own life without hurting anyone, just having sex and trusting in poor friends. Her behavior was not immoral. Sex in itself, is not immoral. Until you realize that you are going to continue to paint people with your judgmental brush.

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calling me judgmental is judgmental. i have no hatred for her, so i dont know why you insist that i do. and more than that you are judging who i am, not my actions. you are judgmental. own it. it is who you are.

everyone here has judged the situation. you making the claim that it isnt immoral is just as judgmental as claiming it is. so get off your high horse because you look like a hypocritical idiot up there.

calling someone judgmental for disagreeing with your judgment is retarded. if it makes me a tool, then everyone here is a judgmental tool for disagreing with me.

normally you are a cool person on here, but you are acting like a child right now.

and please list out the insulting things ive said about this girl or shut up.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
“The University is pissed. The dudes are pissed. The parents of the athletes are pissed.”

LOL, I’m willing to bet the guy she rated 12/10 isn’t pissed. [/quote]

Meh, I think it’s mostly feigned indignation. When all is said and done, any publicity is good publicity. In the words of circus promoter P.T. Barnum: “I don’t care what anyone writes about me as long as they spell my name correctly.”[/quote]

I disagree.

Any of those guys could use “hey did you hear about that duke girls sex history report? I’m one of the guys!” as a pick up line in a bar, however, whether said guy goes home with the girl or not is if, when she asks “oh, which one were you?”, he answers “the guy she rated a 12/10” or “the guy she rated 3.5/10.”

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Ratings like that are kinda like movie reviews. If the reviewer is some high-brow film critic, an awesome movie like Conan the Barbarian would be ripped to shreds while some sleep-inducing historical drama would get a rave review. It’s all about reviewer’s tastes and expectations.

I remember trying to watch the English Patient. I had liked Willem Dafoe in To Live and Die in L.A. But, except for a couple of battle sequences, it was all about the emotional life of a dude in head bandages. I left about 20 minutes into this this 2 hour “masterpiece” LOL
Thank God Dafoe came to his senses and went back to playing roles like the Green Goblin.

All the 3.5 out of 10 guy has to do is suggest that his style is more of an adrenaline-packed, white-knuckle, thrilling summer blockbuster and the reporter chick was apparently more into a Merchant/Ivory-style snooze fest.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

Making a judgement call on this girl having serious issues isn’t too smart, either.[/quote]

and one of the reasons why I really like you. You have been there, done that and are not judgmental.

The woman was sold out by a friend so that kinda already says she isn’t a great judge of character. None of my friends would do that to me. [/quote]

Thank you very much, OG!

This girl is young and in college, where you’re supposed to learn and experience LIFE. We ALL did dumb shit when we were here age.

Hell, she should’ve kept all that information in her head…like guys do.[/quote]

This ^^

I argued with the moral police for 2 pages on this thread…there is no convincing them of anything.

And Jewbacca…I read the whole 35 pages on Deadspin…nowhere in that article did it talk about any other partners.

Just sayin’

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
And Jewbacca…I read the whole 35 pages on Deadspin…nowhere in that article did it talk about any other partners.

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I am not sure what you mean.

The boy she rated highest was the one who (appeared to have) sought a committed relationship and had just come off a committed relationship.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
I’ll never understand why men would hate women who put out. That has nothing to do with the paper she wrote, just the whole ‘whore’ nonsense in this thread. If you want to talk about who has issues…

I love cake but I hate pastry chefs!!

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With the exception of the juveniles, I don’t see anyone who “hate women who put out.”

Go read this lady’s paper. It’s pretty clear she’s got issues.

Her sleeping around just happens to be a symptom.

A bigger symptom is the fact she is so clueless that she put something like this where it could be spread on the net.[/quote]

What part of “That has nothing to do with the paper she wrote, just the whole ‘whore’ nonsense in this thread” means that my post has anything to do with the paper?

You didn’t actually read my post, did you? Because if you did you would have assumed I wasn’t talking about your diagnosis and I was talking about the guys who you ‘don’t see’ hating women who put out, but you actually do see, but don’t acknowledge as if that somehow means they don’t actually exist.

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Too many double negatives for me to clearly follow that, but I did, indeed, read your post.

As is presumably obvious, English is not my native language, but, yes, I did read your post as disagreeing with mine. Reading it again, I still get that.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
You have been there, done that and are not judgmental.
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I don’t think the word “judgmental” means what you think it means, and I barely speak English.

I am aware of the Christian parable from where this concept comes:

Jesus sees a prostitute about to get stoned. He steps in and says, “OK, you who have not slept with a prostitute, you chunk the first stone.”

Basic lesson in hypocrasy. Jewish teaching 101.

The “don’t be judgmental” people, however, stop here and leave off the rest of the teaching:

He then turns to the prostitute and says “Now, you, stop being a prostitute.”

“Judgemental” means to think you are better than someone. I do not claim to be better than this girl; certainly not at her age. The difference between her and me is Al Gore had not yet invented the interwebs.

I do, however, have the right to call her a complete dumbass with issues who needs to figure out a way to clean up her act.

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[quote]octobergirl wrote:
wow… some guys have some issues with women who are independent and in control of their own body and desire.

Thanks Bushy and Utah

and I prefer the word “slut” to whore, I just give it away for free [/quote]

Had I known my use of the word “whore” would have been such an issue…

oh wait. I still would have said it.

Wanna know why?

Because I wasn’t serious and my original post in this thread was meant in good humor.

Just because I think a woman is a whore if she has 10+ sexual partners in 4 years does not mean I hate on independent, strong women?

Infact, I don’t hate anybody. Nowhere did I ‘hate’ on anybody. All I did was claim I find having that many sexual partners to be immoral/wrong.

[quote]octobergirl wrote:

haha! do you think I would have a problem calling you or KrazyK out?

I really don’t.

I also do not think 13 guys in 4 years is a lot of men these days.

More than me, but… I am a frigid virgin in many respects.

You seem to be very judgmental about her sexuality. How exactly did it impact you? I kinda think it didn’t.

Good thing KrazyK could go and find a foreign virginal bride.

Go on and dole out more haterade fella, you just seem to be a tool to me. I speak only for myself. Others may be applauding your way of summarizing the situation and crucifying the woman who shared the report with “two” friends. One of whom is an asshole.
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Just because you do not think 13 guys in 4 years is a lot these days does not mean it means the same to everybody else. I find that excessive. If that makes me a HATER or a tool, then so be it.

And the only reason I posted beyond my original post in this thread was because I was called out for my post that was meant in good fun. And even after that, several of my posts were meant to come across in a sarcastic fashion.

[quote]I am not commenting on the paper. It was never intended for the public.

I will comment on the virtue patrol.

Did you read their comments? It wasn’t specific to the OP. It was a blanket statement about a women being whores if they fuck 13 men in 4 years.

I cannot speak for Deb, but for myself, the posts of the virtue patrol is more telling than what should have been a private recollection by an adult college woman.
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I’m sorry, should I have called it ‘promiscuous’ instead? Does that feel better?

The fact YOU and a few others have gotten so exasperated by my use of the word “whore” is far more telling than anything I have posted.

And really, you have no clue about me and only very tiny bits of information on my personal life. People trying to use the fact my wife is from a different country against me are foolish… I did NOT have to go and find a foreign wife. Fuck, I was 14 or 15 when I met her.

but somehow this means I went looking for a virginal foreign wife? Seriously?

Come on…

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sorry, but i’m turned off by her words…it’s a natural instinct…

I just don’t want to know how many guys a girl has slept with…keep that to yourself…

I would never ask such a question because I don’t care/want to know…it doesn’t matter if number is 1 or 100…

If a girl ever asks me that question…i don’t answer it…

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And: It’s almost as if some of you insist that in order to be a strong and independent woman… women should be sleeping with multiple partners.

Makes 0 sense to me.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
And: It’s almost as if some of you insist that in order to be a strong and independent woman… women should be sleeping with multiple partners.

Makes 0 sense to me.

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Not that they SHOULD be, but that they CAN without being judged for it.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
And: It’s almost as if some of you insist that in order to be a strong and independent woman… women should be sleeping with multiple partners.

Makes 0 sense to me.

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You are really hung up on numbers. I never said you had to sleep with numerous partners to be strong and independent. You do realize you make stuff up out of people’s posts don’t you?

I also never used the word “hate” which you keep throwing around.

A person has the right to live their life the way they want so long as they don’t hurt anyone. This paper was never intended for the public. I also really question of the guys in the paper would be hurt. Maybe an ego blow, but I doubt they are curled up in a ball needing therapy to recover.

Why don’t you tell me how many people someone should sleep with and remain moral and decent? What is the maximum?

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

I’m pretty sure I’ve read the average number of sex partners for an American female to be 6 or 7 in her life time. I found that gross and wrong… and then this bitch had twice that in 4 years. TOTAL whore.

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Just thought I would quote this again. Charming…

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
What I like about this story is the fact it makes me happy I didn’t marry an American woman :slight_smile:

fucking whores…

hah.[/quote]

another charming post, no insulting language whatsoever