Duke Girl Publishes Report on Sex?

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

You are really hung up on numbers. I never said you had to sleep with numerous partners to be strong and independent. [/quote]

You’re right, you didn’t say you had to sleep with numerous partners to be strong and independent. BUT you said that I have a problem with strong and independent women based on the fact I called this girl a whore. So naturally, I can draw the conclusion that you think sleeping around makes a woman strong and independent.

Not quite sure where I did this…

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I also never used the word “hate” which you keep throwing around.[/quote]

You said haterade. Hate is in it.

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A person has the right to live their life the way they want so long as they don’t hurt anyone.[/quote]

Nobody said they didn’t have that right.

[quote] This paper was never intended for the public. I also really question of the guys in the paper would be hurt. Maybe an ego blow, but I doubt they are curled up in a ball needing therapy to recover.

Why don’t you tell me how many people someone should sleep with and remain moral and decent? What is the maximum?[/quote]

It is not a set number. But as few as possible, ideally.

In my opinion, if somebody had a few serious relationships and sex was involved in said relationships, and then later on got married, I would not consider that person a ‘slut’ or a ‘whore’.

It is the people who go around ‘hooking up’ with as many people as possible that I would consider a ‘slut’ or ‘whore’.

Not complicated.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
What I like about this story is the fact it makes me happy I didn’t marry an American woman :slight_smile:

fucking whores…

hah.[/quote]

another charming post, no insulting language whatsoever

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Oh gee. My original post.

The one that I keep referring to as being meant as ‘humor’.

Thanks for taking your time to read what I have repeatedly said. :wink:

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
calling me judgmental is judgmental. i have no hatred for her, so i dont know why you insist that i do. and more than that you are judging who i am, not my actions. you are judgmental. own it. it is who you are.

everyone here has judged the situation. you making the claim that it isnt immoral is just as judgmental as claiming it is. so get off your high horse because you look like a hypocritical idiot up there.

calling someone judgmental for disagreeing with your judgment is retarded. if it makes me a tool, then everyone here is a judgmental tool for disagreing with me.

normally you are a cool person on here, but you are acting like a child right now.

and please list out the insulting things ive said about this girl or shut up.[/quote]

Did you really just stomp your foot and tell me to “shut up” on the internet?

I never used the word hate so I don’t know why you are saying that I did.

And saying you are being judgmental is not a judgment call, you are in fact being judgmental. You admit to it. You have said you found her actions to be immoral thereby judging her actions. It just is, no grey area there.

You have been insulting more towards your responses by calling people an idiot, or retarded, but you haven’t been as insulting as krazyK. I have reposted his gentlemanly posts.

I disagree I am acting like a child. I am guessing that is how you are interpreting my posts. How is it coming across to you as childish? Is it only because I disagree with her actions being immoral?

Is it the number of men she slept with? Is it that she kept score (we really all do, you do too, you absolutely do compare in your head all your past experiences to the ones you will have or have had). Is it that she wrote it down? Is it that she showed two people, one of whom is really an awful person?

In any case, I get it that you consider her immoral. I hope I have gotten across to you that I do not believe how many people a person sleeps with makes them immoral.

I know I would rather hang out with a slut or a whore than with a liar. And NO, I am not saying that you are. I am just relating something that I find completely immoral.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

I’m pretty sure I’ve read the average number of sex partners for an American female to be 6 or 7 in her life time. I found that gross and wrong… and then this bitch had twice that in 4 years. TOTAL whore.

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Just thought I would quote this again. Charming… [/quote]

6 or 7 in a LIFE TIME is gross? Dude, you’ve got some insecurity issues. Banging a virgin isn’t very fun.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

Just thought I would quote this again. Charming… [/quote]

You know what I find charming?

The fact you are twice my age and you are so hung up on the language used.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
What I like about this story is the fact it makes me happy I didn’t marry an American woman :slight_smile:

fucking whores…

hah.[/quote]

another charming post, no insulting language whatsoever

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Oh gee. My original post.

The one that I keep referring to as being meant as ‘humor’.

Thanks for taking your time to read what I have repeatedly said. :wink:
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But the one you kept saying sleeping with multiple partners makes them whores and that American women only sleep with 6 or 7 in their lifetime. I am not sure it was humorous or a Freudian Slip.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

Just thought I would quote this again. Charming… [/quote]

You know what I find charming?

The fact you are twice my age and you are so hung up on the language used.[/quote]

What would age have to do with your insulting language? Should it be more acceptable if I were 20yrs old? Or is it that as you mature and develop your character you won’t use that language?

which is it?

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

I’m pretty sure I’ve read the average number of sex partners for an American female to be 6 or 7 in her life time. I found that gross and wrong… and then this bitch had twice that in 4 years. TOTAL whore.

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Just thought I would quote this again. Charming… [/quote]

6 or 7 in a LIFE TIME is gross? Dude, you’ve got some insecurity issues. Banging a virgin isn’t very fun.[/quote]

I have no insecurity issues whatsoever.

My belief that having that many partners in a lifetime is wrong does not reflect any insecurities.

A life time is a long time, sure. But I still don’t like the idea of having 6 or 7 in my lifetime. That’s me. It doesn’t make me insecure.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

What would age have to do with your insulting language? Should it be more acceptable if I were 20yrs old? Or is it that as you mature and develop your character you won’t use that language?

which is it?

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The fact you are twice my age or close to it but got so ‘exasperated’ about my insulting language on the internet is what I found comical.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

You are really hung up on numbers. I never said you had to sleep with numerous partners to be strong and independent. [/quote]

You’re right, you didn’t say you had to sleep with numerous partners to be strong and independent. BUT you said that I have a problem with strong and independent women based on the fact I called this girl a whore. So naturally, I can draw the conclusion that you think sleeping around makes a woman strong and independent.

Not quite sure where I did this…

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I also never used the word “hate” which you keep throwing around.[/quote]

You said haterade. Hate is in it.

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A person has the right to live their life the way they want so long as they don’t hurt anyone.[/quote]

Nobody said they didn’t have that right.

[quote] This paper was never intended for the public. I also really question of the guys in the paper would be hurt. Maybe an ego blow, but I doubt they are curled up in a ball needing therapy to recover.

Why don’t you tell me how many people someone should sleep with and remain moral and decent? What is the maximum?[/quote]

It is not a set number. But as few as possible, ideally.

In my opinion, if somebody had a few serious relationships and sex was involved in said relationships, and then later on got married, I would not consider that person a ‘slut’ or a ‘whore’.

It is the people who go around ‘hooking up’ with as many people as possible that I would consider a ‘slut’ or ‘whore’.

Not complicated.[/quote]

Your drawing a conclusion is making stuff up. You are making stuff up if I didn’t say it. If you think my statement was not entire and that there was something dangling about for you to pick up and interpret, just ask me.

I did say haterade, I didn’t say you hate them. Again, you and your conclusions.

And I get your point that you judge sluts and whores to be immoral. I don’t see that as necessarily being the case. Especially if the behavior is only being judged on the sex and not why the person is having the sex.

Why as few as possible if you are honest, you enjoy sex, you aren’t hurting anyone, and you take precautions? What is it about having sex with numerous people that makes it immoral?

We just aren’t going to agree. You mentioned my age in a different post so maybe I have had a little bit more experience with life and you have a few years to catch up. Perhaps later in life your opinions will change. I know mine have and I try to keep an open mind and I expect my opinions now on certain things will change later on in life.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

What would age have to do with your insulting language? Should it be more acceptable if I were 20yrs old? Or is it that as you mature and develop your character you won’t use that language?

which is it?

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The fact you are twice my age or close to it but got so ‘exasperated’ about my insulting language on the internet is what I found comical.[/quote]

You may just be easily amused.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I did say haterade, I didn’t say you hate them. Again, you and your conclusions.

And I get your point that you judge sluts and whores to be immoral. I don’t see that as necessarily being the case. Especially if the behavior is only being judged on the sex and not why the person is having the sex.

Why as few as possible if you are honest, you enjoy sex, you aren’t hurting anyone, and you take precautions? What is it about having sex with numerous people that makes it immoral?

We just aren’t going to agree. You mentioned my age in a different post so maybe I have had a little bit more experience with life and you have a few years to catch up. Perhaps later in life your opinions will change. I know mine have and I try to keep an open mind and I expect my opinions now on certain things will change later on in life.

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I don’t get it. You people called me out first. Mostly because of my use of the word “whore”.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

I’m pretty sure I’ve read the average number of sex partners for an American female to be 6 or 7 in her life time. I found that gross and wrong… and then this bitch had twice that in 4 years. TOTAL whore.

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Just thought I would quote this again. Charming… [/quote]

6 or 7 in a LIFE TIME is gross? Dude, you’ve got some insecurity issues. Banging a virgin isn’t very fun.[/quote]

I have no insecurity issues whatsoever.

My belief that having that many partners in a lifetime is wrong does not reflect any insecurities.

A life time is a long time, sure. But I still don’t like the idea of having 6 or 7 in my lifetime. That’s me. It doesn’t make me insecure.
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Seems like you don’t want a girl to be exposed to other men who are either better endowed, better looking or better in bed and it makes you sound like you’re nervous about being compared.

Unless you get married when you are like 20 (which I guess you did) you’re gonna be dating quite a few people and having sex with them.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

You may just be easily amused.

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Perhaps I am.

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I did say haterade, I didn’t say you hate them. Again, you and your conclusions.

And I get your point that you judge sluts and whores to be immoral. I don’t see that as necessarily being the case. Especially if the behavior is only being judged on the sex and not why the person is having the sex.

Why as few as possible if you are honest, you enjoy sex, you aren’t hurting anyone, and you take precautions? What is it about having sex with numerous people that makes it immoral?

We just aren’t going to agree. You mentioned my age in a different post so maybe I have had a little bit more experience with life and you have a few years to catch up. Perhaps later in life your opinions will change. I know mine have and I try to keep an open mind and I expect my opinions now on certain things will change later on in life.

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I don’t get it. You people called me out first. Mostly because of my use of the word “whore”.
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I didn’t call you out until later in the thread. You said you were joking, but then you reinforced what you said was a joke post by saying it over and over as your opinion.

I am not a huge fan of the word whore, in dirty talk SURE, but as an insult not so much. But then again I am not a huge fan of how women today greet each other by saying “Hey Bitches.” I don’t get that.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

Seems like you don’t want a girl to be exposed to other men who are either better endowed, better looking or better in bed and it makes you sound like you’re nervous about being compared.

Unless you get married when you are like 20 (which I guess you did) you’re gonna be dating quite a few people and having sex with them.[/quote]

I just do not morally agree with having many, many sexual partners in a lifetime - if that makes me seem nervous about comparison, then so be it.

I don’t see the connection though.

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Is your morality rooted in Judeo-Christian values? That would explain the rather archaic notions about female sexuality and purity.

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[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
Is your morality rooted in Judeo-Christian values? That would explain the rather archaic notions about female sexuality and purity.[/quote]

Both male and female sexuality and purity.

And no.

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[quote]debraD wrote:
I’ll never understand why men would hate women who put out.

I love cake but I hate pastry chefs!!

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The thing is we all want our own pastry chef!

I think there are lots of good arguments for why ‘guys hate sluts’, so to speak.

There’s the classic idea that the nature of how we procreate makes it advantageous for males to want to spread their seed and females to be protective of their eggs by being selective about who they mate with. This is due to the limited resources a woman has to raise children. She can only raise so many. She wants to make sure a man is of quality stock, has resources and is willing to stick around. If this is a given, then it would be logical that a man would see a woman who breaks from this model as deviant, or possibly damaged goods. Damaged from some life circumstance that caused her to act against the way nature programmed her to be.

Another argument could be that if a man is going to commit his resources to a woman and the children, he wants to be confident that the children are his children. If a woman has a track record of promiscuity then he has less confidence in that.

There’s also the communicable disease angle. Every lover a girl takes she’s increasing her risk of disease. Guys want to fuck but we don’t want to fuck someone who will give us something. For long term we want a girl who makes prudent decisions and playing russian roulette with her health by fucking lots of men isn’t prudent thinking.

Do I believe these ideas? I think there’s a degree of truth to all. For the record I kind of like the idea of a girl who hasn’t slept around much but it hasn’t been a factor in who I’ve chosen to have relationships with. I had a girlfriend who had been with more than 30 and my wife has been with exactly 20.

I have a little theory that you (us men) really need to worry if a woman doesn’t know how many she’s been with. It’s been my experience that woman always know exactly how many men they’ve been with. That girl above who I said had been with over 30 told me the exact number, I just don’t remember what that number was. Guys are different. I haven’t been with very many girls but I’ve had to mentally count them up before. Girls aren’t like that, girls know. If you’ve got a girl who doesn’t know the exact number, I have a hunch she’s been through hell.

I’m not sure how this fits in, but I think it’s interesting to point out that guys who are playas are often the first ones to say they hope they never have daughters or they are going to be super protective, tell their daughters guys only want one thing, intimidate boys that come around, etc. With some, girls who are free with sex are great but not if it’s their daughter.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

I’m pretty sure I’ve read the average number of sex partners for an American female to be 6 or 7 in her life time. I found that gross and wrong… and then this bitch had twice that in 4 years. TOTAL whore.

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Just thought I would quote this again. Charming… [/quote]

6 or 7 in a LIFE TIME is gross? Dude, you’ve got some insecurity issues. Banging a virgin isn’t very fun.[/quote]

Where is this guy from? It’s my impression European women are more sexually liberated than American women.