Duke Girl Publishes Report on Sex?

[quote]debraD wrote:
I’ll never understand why men would hate women who put out. That has nothing to do with the paper she wrote, just the whole ‘whore’ nonsense in this thread. If you want to talk about who has issues…

I love cake but I hate pastry chefs!!

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With the exception of the juveniles, I don’t see anyone who “hate women who put out.”

Go read this lady’s paper. It’s pretty clear she’s got issues.

Her sleeping around just happens to be a symptom.

A bigger symptom is the fact she is so clueless that she put something like this where it could be spread on the net.

This was an awesome thread. I will be blogging about the incident. Sweet.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

wow… some guys have some issues with women who are independent and in control of their own body and desire.

Thanks Bushy and Utah

and I prefer the word “slut” to whore, I just give it away for free

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Who specifically are you talking about?

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

wow… some guys have some issues with women who are independent and in control of their own body and desire.

Thanks Bushy and Utah

and I prefer the word “slut” to whore, I just give it away for free

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Who specifically are you talking about?[/quote]

haha! do you think I would have a problem calling you or KrazyK out?

I really don’t.

I also do not think 13 guys in 4 years is a lot of men these days.

More than me, but… I am a frigid virgin in many respects.

You seem to be very judgmental about her sexuality. How exactly did it impact you? I kinda think it didn’t.

Good thing KrazyK could go and find a foreign virginal bride.

Go on and dole out more haterade fella, you just seem to be a tool to me. I speak only for myself. Others may be applauding your way of summarizing the situation and crucifying the woman who shared the report with “two” friends. One of whom is an asshole.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
I’ll never understand why men would hate women who put out. That has nothing to do with the paper she wrote, just the whole ‘whore’ nonsense in this thread. If you want to talk about who has issues…

I love cake but I hate pastry chefs!!

[/quote]

With the exception of the juveniles, I don’t see anyone who “hate women who put out.”

Go read this lady’s paper. It’s pretty clear she’s got issues.

Her sleeping around just happens to be a symptom.

A bigger symptom is the fact she is so clueless that she put something like this where it could be spread on the net.[/quote]

I am not commenting on the paper. It was never intended for the public.

I will comment on the virtue patrol.

Did you read their comments? It wasn’t specific to the OP. It was a blanket statement about a women being whores if they fuck 13 men in 4 years.

I cannot speak for Deb, but for myself, the posts of the virtue patrol is more telling than what should have been a private recollection by an adult college woman.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Did you read their comments? It wasn’t specific to the OP. It was a blanket statement about a women being whores if they fuck 13 men in 4 years.

I cannot speak for Deb, but for myself, the posts of the virtue patrol is more telling than what should have been a private recollection by an adult college woman.
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No, I didn’t read their comments. I kind of glaze over when people post in “bro speak” and ignore whatever they write and go back to the topic.

I do stand by my comment that it is apparent this girl wants emotional attachement and is going about it the wrong way.

Who says the art of conversation is dead.

Just my two cents. I agree with DD and KrazyK in a lot of respects. I do personally feel that 13 in four years is a lot (and it was probably more like DD said). And not just for women. I know guys who sleep with at least one new girl a month…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. Just like I would feel that a woman doing the same is a slut.

Maybe I’m just a prude myself, but I don’t believe in sleeping around. I have no interest in going out to a bar every weekend and trying to pick up on girls. And I think that doing so is immoral. And yes, I view those that do as sluts or whores or whatever you want to call them. Doesn’t mean I am going to go stone or crucify them. Doesn’t mean I wont associate with them. Do what you want. Live and let live. To each their own. Etc.

I’m about to be 24. I have only had sex with four girls (three if you don’t include oral sex), and I wouldn’t mind that number actually being lower. I personally feel that sex is something special and meant to be shared between two people that care about each other. I mean, I have a high sex drive, and when I’m in a relationship, I want it as much as possible. Every day, multiple times a day if possible haha. But if I’m not in a monogamous relationship with someone, I am completely fine not getting any. And maybe I’m some kind of hypocrite, but I love threads like More Lovely Dirty Pretty Things. While single, I love looking, I love porn…and to some people with similar morals, that would go against their morals, but eh.

As far as the subject of dating a girl whose slept with a lot of guys…not saying that I wouldn’t date her. There are A LOT of factors that factor in to whether or not I’ll date someone. But, I’d be lying if I said that part of me would prefer my girl to have a low number as well.

So…in closing. Guy OR girl, doesn’t matter. If you sleep around a lot and rack up huge numbers, you’re a slut. Doesn’t mean you’re a bad person. There’s a lot to factor in. But, yeah, you’re a slut.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
I’ll never understand why men would hate women who put out. That has nothing to do with the paper she wrote, just the whole ‘whore’ nonsense in this thread. If you want to talk about who has issues…

I love cake but I hate pastry chefs!!

[/quote]

With the exception of the juveniles, I don’t see anyone who “hate women who put out.”

Go read this lady’s paper. It’s pretty clear she’s got issues.

Her sleeping around just happens to be a symptom.

A bigger symptom is the fact she is so clueless that she put something like this where it could be spread on the net.[/quote]

I agree… It’s just a symptom… OF BEING YOUNG AND DUMB (And full of cum… as the saying goes)

Making a judgement call on this girl having serious issues isn’t too smart, either.

[quote]imhungry wrote:

Making a judgement call on this girl having serious issues isn’t too smart, either.[/quote]

and one of the reasons why I really like you. You have been there, done that and are not judgmental.

The woman was sold out by a friend so that kinda already says she isn’t a great judge of character. None of my friends would do that to me.

Virgins and mail-order-bride grooms stop ruining this thread with your whiny arguments.
Clifft notes:

-Yes, this girl’s a slut!
-Sluts are awesome!
-KrazyKK just for you I’m going to bang a married woman tonight…

Her husband will be there as well, tho…

Hijack: She told me to call her when I get to the house instead of ringing, 'cause the kids are sleeping.

Now to be prepared for the worst case scenario I’m wondering, how would you guys explain to a 5-10year old (guesstimate from the woman’s age) why you are naked with mommy and daddy in the living room?

I thought about something along the lines of fixing the heaters, then it got so hot we all had to take off our clothes and now we’re looking for some lost equipment on the floor…
Anyone got a better idea? Thoughts much appreciated!

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. [/quote]

Why?

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
I’ll never understand why men would hate women who put out. That has nothing to do with the paper she wrote, just the whole ‘whore’ nonsense in this thread. If you want to talk about who has issues…

I love cake but I hate pastry chefs!!

[/quote]

With the exception of the juveniles, I don’t see anyone who “hate women who put out.”

Go read this lady’s paper. It’s pretty clear she’s got issues.

Her sleeping around just happens to be a symptom.

A bigger symptom is the fact she is so clueless that she put something like this where it could be spread on the net.[/quote]

What part of “That has nothing to do with the paper she wrote, just the whole ‘whore’ nonsense in this thread” means that my post has anything to do with the paper?

You didn’t actually read my post, did you? Because if you did you would have assumed I wasn’t talking about your diagnosis and I was talking about the guys who you ‘don’t see’ hating women who put out, but you actually do see, but don’t acknowledge as if that somehow means they don’t actually exist.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. [/quote]

Why?
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Like I said, I feel that sex is important and private and is something that should be between people in a monogamous relationship. Doesn’t mean married, I’ve never been, but I don’t agree with hookups/one-night stands/etc. I feel that they are wrong.

Doesn’t mean that I think they’re bad people. I’m not condemning them to hell. Saying they’ll be horrible parents. That I wouldn’t associate or be friends with them. Or anything along those lines. I just feel that the decisions they are making in that regard are wrong. They are free to do whatever they want, it’s just not for me.

[quote]benos4752 wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. [/quote]

Why?
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Like I said, I feel that sex is important and private and is something that should be between people in a monogamous relationship. Doesn’t mean married, I’ve never been, but I don’t agree with hookups/one-night stands/etc. I feel that they are wrong.

Doesn’t mean that I think they’re bad people. I’m not condemning them to hell. Saying they’ll be horrible parents. That I wouldn’t associate or be friends with them. Or anything along those lines. I just feel that the decisions they are making in that regard are wrong. They are free to do whatever they want, it’s just not for me.[/quote]

But you’re not just saying it’s just not for me, you’re saying it’s wrong. What then does it mean to be wrong?

So why is it they are wrong?

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

wow… some guys have some issues with women who are independent and in control of their own body and desire.

Thanks Bushy and Utah

and I prefer the word “slut” to whore, I just give it away for free

[/quote]

Who specifically are you talking about?[/quote]

haha! do you think I would have a problem calling you or KrazyK out?

I really don’t.

I also do not think 13 guys in 4 years is a lot of men these days.

More than me, but… I am a frigid virgin in many respects.

You seem to be very judgmental about her sexuality. How exactly did it impact you? I kinda think it didn’t.

Good thing KrazyK could go and find a foreign virginal bride.

Go on and dole out more haterade fella, you just seem to be a tool to me. I speak only for myself. Others may be applauding your way of summarizing the situation and crucifying the woman who shared the report with “two” friends. One of whom is an asshole.

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Who said anything about a callout? I just genuinely wasn’t sure if you were referring to me. How did my moral judgment affect you? I kinda think it didn’t, so why all this haterade and tool name calling? I haven’t called a single person in this thread a judgmental name (unlike you). Not one person has advocated any sort of punishment, so drop the crucifying martyr BS. I haven’t hated on anyone. I don’t care what she does. I don’t condemn her for it. I’d still be her friends with a person who sleeps around. Who exactly is the one hating? You call me a tool for thinking sleeping around with random people is bad?

You are really tempting me to make some sexist time of the month joke. Normally I like reading your posts, but damn, there seems to be a lot of projection going on or something.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. [/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Like I said, I feel that sex is important and private and is something that should be between people in a monogamous relationship. Doesn’t mean married, I’ve never been, but I don’t agree with hookups/one-night stands/etc. I feel that they are wrong.

Doesn’t mean that I think they’re bad people. I’m not condemning them to hell. Saying they’ll be horrible parents. That I wouldn’t associate or be friends with them. Or anything along those lines. I just feel that the decisions they are making in that regard are wrong. They are free to do whatever they want, it’s just not for me.[/quote]

But you’re not just saying it’s just not for me, you’re saying it’s wrong. What then does it mean to be wrong?

So why is it they are wrong?[/quote]

Right and wrong never have logical justification. You cannot explain what makes sleeping around wrong any more than you can explain why ,thinking sleeping around is wrong, is wrong. You explain why its wrong to think promiscuity is wrong and I’ll explain why promiscuity is wrong.

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
“The University is pissed. The dudes are pissed. The parents of the athletes are pissed.”

LOL, I’m willing to bet the guy she rated 12/10 isn’t pissed. [/quote]

Meh, I think it’s mostly feigned indignation. When all is said and done, any publicity is good publicity. In the words of circus promoter P.T. Barnum: “I don’t care what anyone writes about me as long as they spell my name correctly.”

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. [/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Like I said, I feel that sex is important and private and is something that should be between people in a monogamous relationship. Doesn’t mean married, I’ve never been, but I don’t agree with hookups/one-night stands/etc. I feel that they are wrong.

Doesn’t mean that I think they’re bad people. I’m not condemning them to hell. Saying they’ll be horrible parents. That I wouldn’t associate or be friends with them. Or anything along those lines. I just feel that the decisions they are making in that regard are wrong. They are free to do whatever they want, it’s just not for me.[/quote]

But you’re not just saying it’s just not for me, you’re saying it’s wrong. What then does it mean to be wrong?

So why is it they are wrong?[/quote]

Right and wrong never have logical justification. You cannot explain what makes sleeping around wrong any more than you can explain why ,thinking sleeping around is wrong, is wrong. You explain why its wrong to think promiscuity is wrong and I’ll explain why promiscuity is wrong.[/quote]

Right and wrong certainly can and do have logical justification.

I never made any claim of wrongness. The burden of proof is on those that do. If you can’t do that, then you are just pulling feelings out of your ass and there is no reason at all why they should have any merit at all and you might as well just keep them to yourself.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
…and I feel they are male sluts and that what they are doing is wrong. [/quote]

Why?
[/quote]

Like I said, I feel that sex is important and private and is something that should be between people in a monogamous relationship. Doesn’t mean married, I’ve never been, but I don’t agree with hookups/one-night stands/etc. I feel that they are wrong.

Doesn’t mean that I think they’re bad people. I’m not condemning them to hell. Saying they’ll be horrible parents. That I wouldn’t associate or be friends with them. Or anything along those lines. I just feel that the decisions they are making in that regard are wrong. They are free to do whatever they want, it’s just not for me.[/quote]

What then does it mean to be wrong?
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I see what you’re saying and that is a very good question. One that I don’t have an answer to. All I know with any certainty is that, for/to me, based on my morals, it is wrong. I know everyone doesn’t think/feel the same, and I don’t expect people to. I think at the end of the day, you just have to do what you feel is right and expect to have to accept other lifestyles (unless you want to move somewhere with only like minded individuals and wall yourself off).

That’s why I can say I feel it’s wrong…because, to me it is. But at the same time, I don’t expect others to feel that way, and I’m not condemning them for it, or at least I don’t mean to.