I did some extensive research on atheists and found that 100% of the time they think (much) more highly of themselves than religious people.
wikipedia.com/atheismissoooooooostupid.org/net
LB, why do you think religion is a cancer to the world? From what you’ve said before it is hard not to assume that you believe that you are on some sort of intelligence high ground.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Religion is bullshit, pure and simple. [/quote]
Religion is the best thing to happen to an atheist: without it you’d have nothing to talk about.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
A theophobe? Is that like how homosexuals call someone a homophobe because they don’t actually have an intelligent rebutal?[/quote]
You’ve offered nothing to rebut but brash opinion, a link to some webpage with profanity in the domain, and wiki.
Also this is a hilarious charge coming from someone who tossed out the oh-so original “sky fairy” line of “intelligent rebuttal” after making up some statistic about intelligence levels and there supposed correlation to theism.
Great.
Funny though, the vast majority of people today, and thorough the known history of the world completely disagree with you, over and over and over and over again. Different names, different interpretations of the same basic ideas, but none the less, all the same basic ideas, over and over and over and over again. Since, like, you know, the dawn of civilization…
Interesting that the cancer hasn’t killed off mankind yet… Also interesting that it has thrived with this “cancer” basically predominant throughout its history.
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I’m not gonna waste much time on this, but here are the following ways religion is a cancer:
-Religion stifled the advancement of science and still does (stem cell, heliocentrism, administration of medicine, acceptance of the theory of evolution, etc).
-Religion, being based on blind faith, imparts close-mindedness of anything which contradicts or insults views(see homosexuals killed, harm or death concerning islam, killing/torture/mutilation of anyone for not following bible/quran/torah, the crusades, jihads, the million wars occurring in the Middle East, some members in this thread el oh el, etc).
-Religion imposes (now archaic,) unfair, cruel and unnecessary laws/morality on people (see religion versus homosexuality, nudity and sexuality, women seen as inferior in all aspects and mistreated accordingly, etc)
-Religion divides people of different faiths.
Sky fairy… Is that like a gay pilot?
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
A theophobe? Is that like how homosexuals call someone a homophobe because they don’t actually have an intelligent rebutal?[/quote]
You’ve offered nothing to rebut but brash opinion, a link to some webpage with profanity in the domain, and wiki.
Also this is a hilarious charge coming from someone who tossed out the oh-so original “sky fairy” line of “intelligent rebuttal” after making up some statistic about intelligence levels and there supposed correlation to theism.
Great.
Funny though, the vast majority of people today, and thorough the known history of the world completely disagree with you, over and over and over and over again. Different names, different interpretations of the same basic ideas, but none the less, all the same basic ideas, over and over and over and over again. Since, like, you know, the dawn of civilization…
Interesting that the cancer hasn’t killed off mankind yet… Also interesting that it has thrived with this “cancer” basically predominant throughout its history.
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I’m not gonna waste much time on this, but here are the following ways religion is a cancer:
-Religion stifled the advancement of science and still does (stem cell, heliocentrism, administration of medicine, acceptance of the theory of evolution, etc).
-Religion, being based on blind faith, imparts close-mindedness of anything which contradicts or insults views(see homosexuals killed, harm or death concerning islam, killing/torture/mutilation of anyone for not following bible/quran/torah, the crusades, jihads, the million wars occurring in the Middle East, some members in this thread el oh el, etc).
-Religion imposes (now archaic,) unfair, cruel and unnecessary laws/morality on people (see religion versus homosexuality, nudity and sexuality, women seen as inferior in all aspects and mistreated accordingly, etc)
-Religion divides people of different faiths.
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The book I read promotes tolerance and love of others.
The banana, as created by God.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Kirk Cameron Nightmare - YouTube [/quote]
Fits in your hand, fits in your mouth, fits in your butt.
Funny thing about that Ray Comfort clip is that the banana, as we know it today is a perfect example of intelligent design…by humans, employing the principle of natural selection.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
-Religion stifled the advancement of science and still does (stem cell, heliocentrism, administration of medicine, acceptance of the theory of evolution, etc).[/quote]
Seeing as the best medical care you are going to get the my area (super Contemporary American Liberal, BTW) is at a catholic hospital, and the best schools are private and Catholic… I’m not so sure about this.
I like how “acceptance of a theory” is something that you are insisting happen. Doesn’t being a theory in-and-of itself mean there needs to be skepticism or am I wrong about that? (And this is coming from someone who more likely than not agrees with your specific view point on evolution.)
Everyone has blind faith, everyone. Even the Militant Church of the Atheist is based on blind faith.
Answer this: do you now or have you ever owned a dog?
Oh yes, because your “sky fairy” comment does the opposite of this? lmao
You’re mind is so closed towards theism, you are hardly in a place to judge who’s mind is open of closed on the subject.
But in reality, this is completely and utter false to the point of absurdity. I mean, why on earth are there 200 different forms of Christianity and Islam if this were true?
In fact, this is a made up talking point based on no truth what-so-ever that close minded people project upon religion.
This all happens outside the scope of religion too…
I think at this point it is clear you are conflating mankind’s interpretation of supposed divine messages with spirituality and the underlying meanings that come with religion…
[quote]-Religion divides people of different faiths.
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So does being an atheist, a democrat, and a Yankee fan.
Then explains the hundreds of years of people being persecuted and horrifically hurt and killed due to religion.
Can you scroll through any of these and tell me if there are any that are not true?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sky fairy… Is that like a gay pilot?[/quote]
Air steward?
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
The book I read promotes tolerance and love of others.
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Was it this book?
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sky fairy… Is that like a gay pilot?[/quote]
Air steward?[/quote]
Dare to believe in Sky Fairies.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
The book I read promotes tolerance and love of others.
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Was it this book?[/quote]
No, but I am sure that is book we could all learn from.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Then explains the hundreds of years of people being persecuted and horrifically hurt and killed due to religion.
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I can name a bunch of governments that did horrible things to people in the name of power…
What is your point?
I can name people that lynched people from opposing political parties, people that murdered others for a car, people that killed for tennis shoes, people that raped and pillaged entire countries, just because…
I can show millions of innocent children slaughtered every year, every year, by a 3rd person at the request of the second, all the while this action fully condoned and protected by government.
This particular activity certainly isn’t based on religious views. Millions a year, globally.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Then explains the hundreds of years of people being persecuted and horrifically hurt and killed due to religion.
Can you scroll through any of these and tell me if there are any that are not true?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html[/quote]
A person could produce an equally appalling list of atrocities committed to serve completely secular, political, financial, tribal, clan/family etc ends. Should one conclude that the whole idea of government and civilization as a whole is a cancer and that all systems of social governance and human affiliation are bullshit for superstitious, conformist morons who lack the intellectual courage to go it alone?
People do horrible shit to people sometimes. Period. “Humans are a cancer” is a stronger argument than “religion is a cancer”, but it’s a bit problematic.
Edit, Beans beat me to it…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I can name a bunch of governments that did horrible things to people in the name of power…
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I can’t name any that didn’t.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I can name a bunch of governments that did horrible things to people in the name of power…
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I can’t name any that didn’t. [/quote]
lol, good point.
