Irish,
What good does the oil do if it stays in the ground ?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
You are absolutely right, no one anywhere is working on alternative energies. Sometimes you act like a little twerp irish.
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I know they are. But instead of the cries from the right of “Drill baby drill,” which is just fuckin asinine, they should be supporting that new kind of industry, and vocally.
And a little twerp? Jesus douche, come up with something better than that or shut the fuck up.[/quote]
Back to a serious reply, there are only a few asshats who actually say drill baby drill. And you HAVE to know that they are saying that with lots of exaggeration. The truth is EVERYONE wants to find cheap clean renewable energy, but most people would rather use our own oil while we continue to search for that alternative instead of buying oil from our not so close friends, and our enemies. The argument 20 years ago was “it will take 3-5 years before any of that oil even can be used.” well guess what, it’s 20 years and we aren’t flying around in electric cars like the jetsons yet.
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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Back to a serious reply, there are only a few asshats who actually say drill baby drill. And you HAVE to know that they are saying that with lots of exaggeration.
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REALLY? I recall the Pig having people chanting it at her rallies. Exaggeration my ass- it’s been a rallying cry of the right for the past two years, and for you to deny that is remarkable.
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The truth is EVERYONE wants to find cheap clean renewable energy, but most people would rather use our own oil while we continue to search for that alternative instead of buying oil from our not so close friends, and our enemies. The argument 20 years ago was “it will take 3-5 years before any of that oil even can be used.” well guess what, it’s 20 years and we aren’t flying around in electric cars like the jetsons yet.
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Please man. We’ve only been searching for real alternatives in the past five years since the oil prices shot up. 20 years ago no one was taking this seriously.
But with the prices back down, I suspect the interest in finding an alternative has gone down as well. This is a reminder that we’ve got to stay on it.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Please man. We’ve only been searching for real alternatives in the past five years since the oil prices shot up. 20 years ago no one was taking this seriously.
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Dude, you are astoundingly ignorant, and really shouldn’t spout off about things that you clearly know nothing about. The next viable energy source has been the HOLY GRAIL of the energy industry for decades. There were concerns about “running out of oil” in the 80s. Guess who spends the most reserach dollars trying to find the next big thing in energy? I’ll give you a hint: Its not the government, and you probably hate them. That’s right, “Big Oil”. With their “obscene profits”. Which they spend heavily on energy technology research.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
An $86 a barrel price is not “down” for oil that reasonably should be selling for ~$20.[/quote]
The price at the pump is lower than it was during it’s highest point…I’d say people have adjusted to paying $2.50 at the pump. Yes, it should be much lower as well.
[quote]HG Thrower wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Please man. We’ve only been searching for real alternatives in the past five years since the oil prices shot up. 20 years ago no one was taking this seriously.
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Dude, you are astoundingly ignorant, and really shouldn’t spout off about things that you clearly know nothing about. The next viable energy source has been the HOLY GRAIL of the energy industry for decades. There were concerns about “running out of oil” in the 80s. Guess who spends the most reserach dollars trying to find the next big thing in energy? I’ll give you a hint: Its not the government, and you probably hate them. That’s right, “Big Oil”. With their “obscene profits”. Which they spend heavily on energy technology research.[/quote]
First- neither you nor I knows how much they do or don’t spend on new energy resources.
Secondly- where did I even mention them? I’m sure they’ve been looking, but miraculously when fuel prices soared, new technology like hybrids came rolling out- so its dependent on the current situation.
But I didn’t say anything about big oil, so don’t go quoting shit like “obscene profits” like I said it when i didn’t.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Irish,
What good does the oil do if it stays in the ground ?[/quote]
The only thing I have problem with burning fossil fuel, is the pollution. If there is no pollution, I am sure what people are worried about.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
An $86 a barrel price is not “down” for oil that reasonably should be selling for ~$20.[/quote]
It should be around $5 a barrel, screw that. It was $.19 a gallon back in the day, now the government has restricted production so much it’s steadily went up to $1 a gallon a decade ago. Now, it shot up to $3 in a decade. Went up 500% over 50 years, and it went up 300% in a decade. Doesn’t anyone see something wrong with that?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Irish,
What good does the oil do if it stays in the ground ?[/quote]
The only thing I have problem with burning fossil fuel, is the pollution. If there is no pollution, I am sure what people are worried about.[/quote]
I think that’s everyone’s concern with fossil fuel…
From what information I am reading it seems they may have poured the cement wrong when they where sealing off the pipes.
What will happen is BP will go in and make sure this never happens again, Obama will pass a law stating the obvious after the fact and Irish will start patting himself on the back for the government pointing out the obvious. We will start drilling becasue everyone with a pulse should realize that we need oil and we can’t continue to get it from the middle east.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Irish,
What good does the oil do if it stays in the ground ?[/quote]
The only thing I have problem with burning fossil fuel, is the pollution. If there is no pollution, I am sure what people are worried about.[/quote]
I think that’s everyone’s concern with fossil fuel… [/quote]
The other concern is that it is an unsustainable practice. The reason I personally support the search for alternative energy is simply for the fact that oil and its relative scarcity promotes conflict.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Irish,
What good does the oil do if it stays in the ground ?[/quote]
The only thing I have problem with burning fossil fuel, is the pollution. If there is no pollution, I am sure what people are worried about.[/quote]
I think that’s everyone’s concern with fossil fuel… [/quote]
The other concern is that it is an unsustainable practice. The reason I personally support the search for alternative energy is simply for the fact that oil and its relative scarcity promotes conflict.[/quote]
What bothers me is the fact that modern life basically necessitates a car, or other gas burning transportation – it would be literally impossible for me to work, go to the gym, see my friends, etc, by walking or using a bike. But then you have posts like pushharders response, where people demand that if you have a problem with oil, you never use a drop ever again or you’re a gigantic hypocrite.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
…it would be literally impossible for me to work, etc, by walking or using a bike.[/quote]
Move or change jobs.[quote]
go to the gym[/quote]
Move or build a home gym.[quote]
see my friends[/quote]
Move. Get new friends. Get your friends to come see you.
Be a Man of the Planet and not a whiner.[quote]
But then you have posts like pushharders response, where people demand that if you have a problem with oil, you never use a drop ever again or you’re a gigantic hypocrite. [/quote]
Read pushharder’s other post which mentions the incredible amount of oil pumped without any accidents. Put things in perspective. Or be a Man of the Planet and mend your evil, oil consuming ways.[/quote]
Wow. I don’t even want to deal with you, dude. I never said people using oil was evil I-- forget it, you’re just going to be a prick.
See ya.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Wow. I don’t even want to deal with you, dude. I never said people using oil was evil I-- forget it, you’re just going to be a prick.
See ya.[/quote]
PWI is not for those easily offended.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Please man. We’ve only been searching for real alternatives in the past five years since the oil prices shot up. 20 years ago no one was taking this seriously.
But with the prices back down, I suspect the interest in finding an alternative has gone down as well. This is a reminder that we’ve got to stay on it. [/quote]
No we dont, because we have cheap oil.
When we no longer do, then we should get to it.
Its absolutely amazing to me that anyone would oppose offshore drilling then complain about the price of fuel.
Anyone who opposes offshore drilling should sell their car right away or else they are just a bunch of hypocrite.
I must admit its funny watching the left get all worked up over this and offer no solutions besides a big government gamble. But what they fail to realize is disasters like this will be avoided in the future due to profit incentive, look at how much money BP is losing after all of this. They will find a better way to drill because they want to make money.
When was the last major oil disaster?