Dr. Ken Leistner Passed Away

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Just saw that Dr. Ken passed away a few days ago.

He wasn’t really a “main” name in some circles nowadays, but he was a big advocate of high intensity work and wrote a lot in the '80s and '90s (in Powerlifting USA, Ironman Magazine, Milo, etc.), especially helping to share the benefits of brutal 20+ rep squats. I believe 407x23 was his own personal best, at 160 pounds.

He also ran Iron Island gym here in NY back in the day and he was one of the first to really push “backyard strongman”-type training with odd objects. His info is definitely worth tracking down and reading up on. I know coaches like @Paul_Carter and others took inspiration from his lessons as a coach and lifter.

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Shame, RIP.
Remember an article about the time I came across this site where he said something like
‘drop the foo-foo crap in training -don’t you think if you added 100lbs to deadlift and your bench and 50 to barbell curl etc that your whole physique and confidence would transform.’
…Made a big impression on me at the time

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The Look of Power
by Ken Leistner

When you see an individual who has built his or her muscle tissue mass to an advanced degree, and has done it with basic, heavy exercises, they have a certain look about them. It’s hard to describe in words, yet everyone knows it when they see it. Extremely developed bodybuilders often lack this “look.” They have a high level of muscle tissue, and perhaps very large measurements. Still, they look, as my younger brother once noted, “like bodybuilders, like a bunch of bodyparts.” One who uses “the basics” and is capable of using relatively heavy weights for moderately high repetitions looks powerful and strong. It is an almost indefinable, yet undeniable, truth.

You must stimulate the large muscular structures of the hips, thighs, lower and upper back to attain this “power look.” The ability to carry as much muscular mass as possible, at any bodyweight, is limited it these areas are not developed to the greatest possible degree. Needless to say, these can be the most neglected areas because they are the most difficult to train. There hasn’t been a market yet for shirts with cellophane windows so the spinae erector groups are highlighted for the public. Posing in front of a mirror yields a lot more information about the pecs, lats, delts and arms than it reveals about the scapulae retractors and the lower trapezius fibers. And when was the last time anyone asked you to flex our hamstrings or para-vertebral muscles in order to assess your worth as a true strongman?

You can get excellent results by concentrating periodically on these potentially strong groups for eight to 12 weeks. As always, a wide variety of equipment can and should be used, but keep in mind that free weights can be used where machines are listed. It’s the effort that’s important, but keep in mind that high intensity training on the large muscle groups will require sufficient recuperation time. Don’t worry that the “other” muscle groups of the upper body are being neglected, and don’t do additional sets for the biceps, deltoids, etc. Stick to the suggested program for a reasonable amount of time before passing judgment. Emphasize an effort to be PROGRESSIVE. Add weight to the bar or do additional repetitions each and every workout. I believe it’s important to continue a certain amount of cardiopulmonary work at all times, at least two sessions a week. Try to choose activities that will not fatigue the lower extremities or cause joint irritation. Swimming or rowing may be a wise alternative to jogging or cycling. Some may find it beneficial to complete the strength training work on Monday, for example, rest 15 minutes and go through a cardiovascular program. Rest on Tuesday so the next workout is attacked with enthusiasm ad more importantly, with as much recuperation as possible.

This program should be done three days per week. The emphasis will obviously be on the muscular structures of the lower extremities and the back. But if the work given to the other muscle groups is of sufficient intensity, surprising improvements will occur in all groups. Note carefully that I said the work must be of “sufficient intensity,” not quantity. This program is not designed to “hold the line” or “maintain” development in the upper body structures. Increases in strength and muscular size should occur, especially for those who usually overtrain those “showy” bodyparts.

DAY ONE

Squat – 1 x 20 (rest 3 minutes)
Squat – 1 x 10-12
Stiff-legged Deadlift – 1 x 15
Pullover – 1x12
Pulldown – 1 x 8
Shrug – 1 x 15
Pullover – 1 x 9-10
Row – 1 x 10
Shrug – 1 x 10
Four-way Neck – 15 reps each
Leg Press – 1 x 30
Side Bend – 15 each side

DAY TWO

Bench Press – 1 x 12
Upright Row – 1 x 8
Bench Press – 1 x 6-8
Barbell Curl – 1 x 12
Lateral Raise – 1 x 8
Front Raise – 1 x 6
Dip – 1 x 10
Barbell Curl – 1 x 8
Dip – 1 x 8
Standing Calf Raise – 1 x 20; 1 x 10
Seated Calf Raise – 1 x 15

DAY THREE

Leg Extension – 1 x 15
Squat – 1 x 30 (rest three minutes)
Regular Deadlift – 1 x 15-20
Leg Curl – 1 x 12
Chin – 1 x 10
Shrug – 1 x 15
Row – 1 x 10
Scapular Retraction on Top Leverage Row – 1 x 8
Shrug – 1 x 10
One Arm Dumbell Row – 1 x 8 each
Leg Press – 1 x 20
Crunch – 1 or 2 x 15

This program is short and simple. The demands on “the system” however, are severe and one has to be especially careful to get as much rest as possible between workouts. Every effort should be made to use as much weight as possible, in proper form of course, in each set. As difficult as it may be, do not hold back or “save anything” for later sets. (And believe me, it is very tempting to hold something in reserve on an all-out set of 20 or 30 squats.)

DAY ONE

The program on Day One begins with squats. These have to be pushed. While I have had competitive powerlifters tell me that “20-rep sets are too light” to bring progress, few of them could do more than 10 with the weight I recommend. This is the key: You must be willing to work very, very hard and do 20 reps with a weight that would normally find you racking the bar after 10 or 12. Yes, it often requires a force of will to complete those last eight reps, when you feel as if your chest has been hit repeatedly with a ball peen hammer. But this is the name of the game. After a short rest, try another set of squats with the same weight, trying to get in at least 50% of the reps you achieved in the first set. Once you adapt to the program, a 10% increase in weight may be possible between the first and second sets.

Stiff-legged Deadlifts, too, should be done carefully and safely, but heavily. Take care to keep the bar close to the body and to move it in a controlled manner. Maintain a very slight “break” or angle of flexion in the knee to remove stress from the hamstring insertions.

I believe the Nautilus Pullover Machine, especially the plate-loading model, is an under-and inefficiently-used piece of equipment. When used properly, it gives a very high order of work to the major muscle structures of the upper back and other muscle groups as well.

The pulldowns can be done on the leverage machine, or with a conventional pulley device, bringing the bar to the base of the neck on each pull.

The Leverage Row is a very effective way to train the scapular retractors without involving the lower back. You can do prone rows, by lying face down on an elevated bench, or cable rows with a long, low pulley. It’s important that you do not “rock” back and forth while doing cable rows. This exposes the lumbar spine to unnecessary risks and uses momentum to elevate the weight. Get a full stretch in the lats and upper back. Sit straight in a controlled manner. Pull as hard as possible, concentrating on bringing the scapulae (shoulder blades) together and the elbows to the rear. Like every other movement, complete the fullest possible range of motion and pause in the contracted position. Jerking the shoulders up and down in a rapid, “bouncy” manner will do little to stimulate your muscles.

Follow now with another set of pullovers, supported row and shrug.

I cannot emphasize enough the importance of neck work. Neck development is essential for a finished look of power. This workout is finished – and so might you be – with a set of leg presses. Work very hard on this movement and your hips and thighs will be screaming. The session concludes with a set of side bends.

DAY TWO

The “other” muscle groups of the upper body are trained on Day Two. Rather than panic because the biceps are receiving only one day of “direct stimulation” per week, work as hard as possible on the barbell curls (using a thick bar on occasion, and the pulldowns and rows. Remember, the biceps are getting quite a bit or work from those two movements on your other training days.

The bench presses can be done on the Leverage Machine or with a bar or dumbells.

The upright rows can be done with a strap or a bar. Do not perform these explosively. Pull to the bottom of the chin, pause, and return under control.

Lateral raises can be done with a low pulley, dumbell, Leverage Machine, or against manual resistance.

Do the dips hard and heavy.

Don’t train calves as an afterthought. Go after them as hard as you would work any other muscle group.

DAY THREE

Day Three, like Day One, is strenuous. The leg extensions will pre-exhaust the quadriceps somewhat, prior to squatting. Thirty rep squats, if done heavily enough, will make the twenty rep sets of Day One seem like a vacation from training.

The deadlifts should be treated like the squats: all out and as heavy as possible. This is one movement, with the stiff-legged variety of deadlift, that we stop just short of failure. You conclude the set when form breaks down to the point where injury is possible. It is important to maintain proper form and avoid bouncing the bar between reps. Place the bar on the platform, make sure you’re set, and then pull. Your hands never leave the bar for the entire set. But make sure that you begin each pull in the proper position.

Leg curls, like stiff-legged deadlifts, give great work to the hamstring group, and should be taken seriously.

Chins should be done with as much weight as possible. When you can do ten perfect reps with a 100-lb. plate suspended from the waist, you can take a break.

One arm dumbell rows must be done with concentration to achieve a full, smooth range of motion and again, the coup de grace is supplied by the leg press.

Complete this session with abdominal work.

Gaining muscular weight in the hips, thighs and back gives you a great feeling of strength – the type of strength that carries over to other activities. The impressiveness of the physique will be appreciated even more after a specialization program of this type. So go for it.

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To my shame (I was out of touch with weightlifting crowd), I just saw the news about Dr. Ken (way belated now). Came to T-mag because this used to be the only real online place for the weight lifting crowd (hope TC and Ken are still alive and around), and I’ve been out of touch for the past 25 years (read below why).

A beautiful woman once told me, “pretty boys go to the gym, but real men do men’s work and look better (and are stronger).” I stopped working out long time ago (I used to be all about HIT jedi like Dr. Ken, and then Lou Simmons and his bunch steroid idiots became prominent, and all that crowd what we called ‘hard-core’ back in late 90’s). But eventually I discovered that just working on my 0.5 acre vegetable garden and taking care of my house keeps me fit and strong: I haul and split my own firewood myself with an axe or sledgehammer and a wedge, splitting four cords a Summer (that’s 512 cubic ft of split firewood. Just try moving heavy logs, cutting them with chainsaw, and then splitting them with an axe for an hour – no workout comes even close, then multiply it by 100x hours a season). I use mechanical Fiskars push reel mower to mow grass (takes two hours to mow all grass on my property, it is a nice mini workout/cardio, and the added benefit is that it is very quiet and much healthier for the grass. My neighbor is a contractor, who does physical work for a living, and he complimented me on the quality of my grass lawn in front of the house and said that his grandfather used to cut grass with reel mower too, and this is the best way to do it, but now he himself just has no energy to do it that way. I constantly work in my vegetable garden, doing things like shoveling compost piles with a pitchfork regularly, and in winter I clean my long driveway from snow with a shovel. Of course folks living in the city can’t have access to all that, so for them Dr. Ken came up with this routine. Steve Justa goes much farther in his book ‘Barrel Lifting,’ his routines pretty much mimic what physical labor men used to do naturally at their jobs in the past, and there he also says that in his experience nothing comes close in strength and toughness to the old timers who spent their lives working hard physical jobs (guys like that, or real farmers don’t work out, but I bet you anything, 10 out of 10 they will beat the shit out of any Ronnie Coleman type of bodybuilder any time of the day). This of course is all for real men, interested in real women. Pretty boys, worried about looking lean and toned, interested in hooking up with Instagram influencers with silicon tits and blown up duck-lips, look elsewhere.

Dr. Ken, in my mind, was trying to recreate something those hardworking men had naturally, but without people having to kill themselves at their jobs, and achieve same benefits in a shorter workout. I don’t think he succeeded, but at least he tried. And that’s what I hope T-mag delivers now, among other things, to interested readers these days. By the way, I tried the 20 rep squats do or die routine promoted by Brooks Kubik, Dr. Ken and the HIT crowd in late 90’s – and it did NOT work for me (except some minor injuries from trying to push myself beyond reasonable limits). But I loved the spirit of what we had back then. I have no idea what it happening now in this field, and I doubt that anyone will even read this post. Writing this out of respect for Dr. Ken and old memories. Fk it, we do what we think is right and we push through, 23’rd rep and you are dying but you must make it!

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Why the fuck are we resurrecting 5 year old threads to start pissing contests?

Thats just our man Asmonius’s form of communication.

Damn!

Look at that power rack. Huge and indestructible, with tight hole spacing and a cool adjustable, custom seat for box squats.

Who wants to partner with me and release a line of Dr Ken power racks?

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I’m not putting that many holes in anything. Thats just too many. :man_shrugging:t2: . Nope.

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Anyone who fails 20+ rep squats on the pins with 405lb is cool in my book. I bet Dr Ken could have chopped a lot of wood back in the day. Ronnie Coleman on the other hand would have done it without an axe and a smile on his face cuz it “aint nuttin but a peanut”.

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