Don't Underestimate the Little Guy

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[quote]Wiggum88 wrote:
Yes, this story really happened. I know all the big guys who posted on this thread would like to believe that being heavier and lifting heavy weights makes you a better fighter, but that’s bullshit.
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That’s not why people don’t believe your story. Everyone remembers UFC 1, etc.

People don’t believe your story because a) there aren’t a lot of 170 lb. guys pulling 500; b) there aren’t a lot of 290@10% guys who couldn’t pull 500. Somehow you live in a world where little guys are pulling huge amounts of weight, and huge guys are pulling tiny amounts of weight. In this world, people challenge each other to duels when they miss a lift.

I’m sure such a world exists… somehwere… though I’ve never seen such a place.

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[quote]Wiggum88 wrote:
Yes, this story really happened. I know all the big guys who posted on this thread would like to believe that being heavier and lifting heavy weights makes you a better fighter, but that’s bullshit.

Like I said, my buddy was an accomplished wrestler in high school and wrestled for the Marines. That’s no small feat. Wrestlers are pound for pound the strongest athletes in the world. (Except for maybe gymnasts). He was a highly trained athlete.

The big steroid infused, overly tanned douche bag had big muscles…yes. Too bad he had the fitness level of a 90 year old lady. He got caught talking shit and got his ass kicked. Speed, skill and aggressiveness will top strength any day of the week.

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Dude, at least lie better than this. There are very few guys on the planet who would take the years necessary to get up anywhere close to 290lbs at 10% body fat and then risk a serious injury trying to wrestle some 170lbs dude on a mat which would possibly knock them out of training for weeks.

I don’t know any bodybuilder who would even waste the time. That’s just common sense and it makes your little story ridiculous. Beyond that, most larger guys would never worry about some dude less than half his own weight, less known FIGHT him for no damn reason.

I have no doubt you have dreamed of this so many times that it may actually seem real to you now. Some “random” 290lbs dude at 10% body fat…who doesn’t compete? Shouldn’t it be easy to even find a picture of this guy? Most people that damn big aren’t very shy.

Your story is poorly written crap that you wish were true.

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Remember that time when we knocked over that cow that was sleeping in the field. That was cool.

And then you and Ray went camping together…

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Ray was a 170 lb man mountain who could palm a medicine ball.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Yes, this story really happened. I know all the big guys who posted on this thread would like to believe that being heavier and lifting heavy weights makes you a better fighter, but that’s bullshit.

Like I said, my buddy was an accomplished wrestler in high school and wrestled for the Marines. That’s no small feat. Wrestlers are pound for pound the strongest athletes in the world. (Except for maybe gymnasts). He was a highly trained athlete.

The big steroid infused, overly tanned douche bag had big muscles…yes. Too bad he had the fitness level of a 90 year old lady. He got caught talking shit and got his ass kicked. Speed, skill and aggressiveness will top strength any day of the week.

Dude, at least lie better than this. There are very few guys on the planet who would take the years necessary to get up anywhere close to 290lbs at 10% body fat and then risk a serious injury trying to wrestle some 170lbs dude on a mat which would possibly knock them out of training for weeks.

I don’t know any bodybuilder who would even waste the time. That’s just common sense and it makes your little story ridiculous. Beyond that, most larger guys would never worry about some dude less than half his own weight, less known FIGHT him for no damn reason.

I have no doubt you have dreamed of this so many times that it may actually seem real to you now. Some “random” 290lbs dude at 10% body fat…who doesn’t compete? Shouldn’t it be easy to even find a picture of this guy? Most people that damn big aren’t very shy.

Your story is poorly written crap that you wish were true.
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I’ll admit that I exagerrated the big guy. He was actually probably more like 250-260 at 15%. Although his upper body sure looked HUGE, I’ve never seen his legs. He always wears those neat little jogging pants. Still though: 1) He didn’t pull the weight, maybe it was because his arms were tired from curling, i don’t know. 2) He talked shit to the wrong motherfucker and got owned.3) He outweighed him by a good 80-90 lbs.

Maybe he doesn’t compete because his legs sucked. I’ve seen him bench 450lbs, but the most I’ve seen him squat was 4 plates on each side.

Prof, in all fairness, I honestly don’t think I could have beat the guy, but my boy “Ray” went into the lower level qualifying rounds for the Olympics at a BW of 76kg. Even at that kind of low level qualifying I think everyone of those guys could have pulled 3x’s bodyweight. They were freaks. And don’t think I don’t respect the kind of commitment and dedication that bodybuilders go through to be good at what they do. I know it takes tremondous amounts of energy and drive. But that guy was an asshole and needed to be brought down a few rungs on his ego.

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[quote]GymGeek wrote:

And then you and Ray went camping together…[/quote]

OH, SNAP!

I had completely forgotten about the whole Ray/camping thing.

My hat is off to you.

Seriously, though, with these credentials under his belt, Ray should now be the premier choice for parking lot escorts at his gym.

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[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
settle it over a tap-out fight? what the fuck is that? did you meet after study hall behind the gym? gay.

besides, i think it’s made up.

Yeah, I thought that was more civil than taking a quarter plate and breaking the fucker’s jaw. Did I mention that the gym also has a martial arts dojo? MMA guys train there all the time. Ground fighting and grappling are a regular occurance. I know it’s probably not the spandex-wearing, tanning bed having, plate loaded machine infested globo-gym conglomerate that your used to working out at, but I enjoy going there.

Oh, yeah. That’s me. You’d make it 2 mintues in a workout with me. Count on that.

Unless you’ve been to SERE’s school like I have, I highly doubt it.

First off, I don’t believe your post. It sounds like highschool fantasy bullshit to me. I don’t think that everyone ‘does MMA’ as they boast, and I think it’s possible that your friend does not even exist. He sounds like an imagined idea of what YOU would like to be. Either that or you have some unrequited man-love thing going on here.

Second, if this guy was really 290 and 10% BF and could not deadlift that weight then he’s either got a dislocated back or…again…the story is made up. I think the latter.

Third, I don’t know what the Sere school is and I most certainly have not been there. But after four years in an NCAA Division One Strength and Conditioning program, three years in NFL offseason and in-season programs, and 10-plus years training as international level olympic lifter and national level (raw) powerlifter, I think it’s safe to say my workouts are still - even at the ripe age of 37 - fairly intense.

I like to hear kids like you say that you could match my - or anyone elses - workout, just not with the same weights. Well, the heavy weights are what make you puke. For instance, last night - in my version of the full-body program - I supersetted full/olympic back squats (i.e. SQUATS - these are what fucking squats ARE, by the way) and dumbbell bench presses.

Two work sets each, 12 reps, static weight. Simple enough, right? Easy. Yeah. I had the bar loaded to 415 for the back squats and used 125-pounders (not hard- just the most I can get on my DBs) for the bench presses.

Followed that up with a superset of barbell rows with 330 for 2 sets of 12 and seated DB military presses with 100-pounders (2 x 12, also). Whole workout took 50 minutes. Try that one some time. [/quote]

Sorry if I came across as belittling your strength training to you. I respect your accomplishments. I’m sure you’ve worked hard and earned them. You were an athlete in Division 1 and the NFL, that deserves plenty of kudos.

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LOL, I just love how the bigger guys hate these stories and automatically call bullshit on them.

:smiley:

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Through his entire career, Chuck Norris has only lost one battle, and that was to Ray.

Coincidentally, he just nailed the alternate role on Queer Eye, and will make his debut on The View next week.

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[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
LOL, I just love how the bigger guys hate these stories and automatically call bullshit on them.

:D[/quote]

This guy has already admitted fudging the weight of the “big dude” by damn near 50lbs so I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy was really about 180lbs and this STILL didn’t happen.

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best thread in a few weeks, thanks guys, still laughing.

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I know I mentioned it before but I’ll say it again. There is a martial arts center in the sports facility. That’s right it is a sports facility on a military base. Converted from an old flight hanger. There is a 200m track, and on one side there is an area for martial arts training, grappling, ground fighting. On the other side of the track there is an area built around the weight room. It is a pretty nice all around training facility, everyting really except a pool.

Now does the story sound a little less bullshit to you guys? We weren’t in LA Fitness or something and just decided to ground fight next to the treadmills. There is an area set off especially for the purpose of martial arts training. For civilians the yearly rate is like 250 beans. Pretty low rate for a nice facility, that’s probably why douche bag boy works out there.

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[quote]GymGeek wrote:
Through his entire career, Chuck Norris has only lost one battle, and that was to Ray.

Coincidentally, he just nailed the alternate role on Queer Eye, and will make his debut on The View next week.[/quote]

That’s pretty funny. Make sure you save that one on your hard-drive.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Yes, this story really happened. I know all the big guys who posted on this thread would like to believe that being heavier and lifting heavy weights makes you a better fighter, but that’s bullshit.

Like I said, my buddy was an accomplished wrestler in high school and wrestled for the Marines. That’s no small feat. Wrestlers are pound for pound the strongest athletes in the world. (Except for maybe gymnasts). He was a highly trained athlete.

The big steroid infused, overly tanned douche bag had big muscles…yes. Too bad he had the fitness level of a 90 year old lady. He got caught talking shit and got his ass kicked. Speed, skill and aggressiveness will top strength any day of the week.

Dude, at least lie better than this. There are very few guys on the planet who would take the years necessary to get up anywhere close to 290lbs at 10% body fat and then risk a serious injury trying to wrestle some 170lbs dude on a mat which would possibly knock them out of training for weeks.

I don’t know any bodybuilder who would even waste the time. That’s just common sense and it makes your little story ridiculous. Beyond that, most larger guys would never worry about some dude less than half his own weight, less known FIGHT him for no damn reason.

I have no doubt you have dreamed of this so many times that it may actually seem real to you now. Some “random” 290lbs dude at 10% body fat…who doesn’t compete? Shouldn’t it be easy to even find a picture of this guy? Most people that damn big aren’t very shy.

Your story is poorly written crap that you wish were true.
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There are actually very few pictures of me, just one very grainy video. And as long as body shaving is a pre-req. of competition–I refuse on priciple.

But word has trickled down of this Ray guy…the clan is concerned!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
LOL, I just love how the bigger guys hate these stories and automatically call bullshit on them.

:smiley:

This guy has already admitted fudging the weight of the “big dude” by damn near 50lbs so I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy was really about 180lbs and this STILL didn’t happen.[/quote]

How could anyone read that post and even consider there was a grain of truth to it. First off, how many guys who have acquired that kind of size are dumb enough to walk up to 500lbs and just try to pull it unless they know they can do this and considerably more weight seeing as they did no warmup of any type. Secondly, how many upon failing then start a fight. Thirdly, how many people describe a fight and describe the loss of ???ACP-TB??? as the reason for fatigue and hence, defeat.

Nonsense.

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[quote]sasquatch wrote:
Professor X wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
LOL, I just love how the bigger guys hate these stories and automatically call bullshit on them.

:smiley:

This guy has already admitted fudging the weight of the “big dude” by damn near 50lbs so I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy was really about 180lbs and this STILL didn’t happen.

How could anyone read that post and even consider there was a grain of truth to it. First off, how many guys who have acquired that kind of size are dumb enough to walk up to 500lbs and just try to pull it unless they know they can do this and considerably more weight seeing as they did no warmup of any type. Secondly, how many upon failing then start a fight. Thirdly, how many people describe a fight and describe the loss of ???ACP-TB??? as the reason for fatigue and hence, defeat.

Nonsense.[/quote]

Stop hating…I’m special, my mom told me so

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Are you sure he wrestled in the marines?

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[quote]sasquatch wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Yes, this story really happened. I know all the big guys who posted on this thread would like to believe that being heavier and lifting heavy weights makes you a better fighter, but that’s bullshit.

Like I said, my buddy was an accomplished wrestler in high school and wrestled for the Marines. That’s no small feat. Wrestlers are pound for pound the strongest athletes in the world. (Except for maybe gymnasts). He was a highly trained athlete.

The big steroid infused, overly tanned douche bag had big muscles…yes. Too bad he had the fitness level of a 90 year old lady. He got caught talking shit and got his ass kicked. Speed, skill and aggressiveness will top strength any day of the week.

Dude, at least lie better than this. There are very few guys on the planet who would take the years necessary to get up anywhere close to 290lbs at 10% body fat and then risk a serious injury trying to wrestle some 170lbs dude on a mat which would possibly knock them out of training for weeks.

I don’t know any bodybuilder who would even waste the time. That’s just common sense and it makes your little story ridiculous. Beyond that, most larger guys would never worry about some dude less than half his own weight, less known FIGHT him for no damn reason.

I have no doubt you have dreamed of this so many times that it may actually seem real to you now. Some “random” 290lbs dude at 10% body fat…who doesn’t compete? Shouldn’t it be easy to even find a picture of this guy? Most people that damn big aren’t very shy.

Your story is poorly written crap that you wish were true.

There are actually very few pictures of me, just one very grainy video. And as long as body shaving is a pre-req. of competition–I refuse on priciple.

But word has trickled down of this Ray guy…the clan is concerned![/quote]

Guys, guys…I just talked to Ray and he has agreed to set up a super hero hotline. The # is RAY (729). Just dial the #, let him know what the problem is and he’ll fly right over to settle it out. We’re also going to make the phone an actual 600lb. barbell so Ray will have to deadlift it and then somehow power clean it to his ear. I figure that will keep him in super hero shape. He has also agreed to start giving super hero fighting lessons. The guest sensai’s will be Chuck Norris, Don “the Dragon” Wilson, Dolph Lundgren, Brian Bosworth, Steven Seagal, and of course the one and only Jean Claude Van Damme. Please phone ahead.

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[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
GymGeek wrote:

And then you and Ray went camping together…

OH, SNAP!

I had completely forgotten about the whole Ray/camping thing.

My hat is off to you.

Seriously, though, with these credentials under his belt, Ray should now be the premier choice for parking lot escorts at his gym.[/quote]

Hey, don’t forget the cougar-killing mule. I would wager he could put both Ray and a parking lot bully down at the same time. (Even if they got him in a
er…hoofbar)

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[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
LOL, I just love how the bigger guys hate these stories and automatically call bullshit on them.

:D[/quote]

I’m not big. I think the story was made up. Everyone who was actually there knows that the smaller kid popped a 7 foot boner and bludgeoned the bigger guy to death with it. Then he played a sweet guitar solo and porked fifty chicks.