[quote]dlp wrote:
I’ve set up my own athletics federation in competition to IAAF.
Someone broke Bolt’s 100m record last week, they only ran about 80m and when I say run it was a motorbike assisted run, still, world record![/quote]
I have no issue with gear. I just can’t help but cringe when i’m watching huge lifts like that. I’m always afraid a seam is going to break and then they are going to get crushed… especially on bench. I’ve watched and done more meets than i can remember and haven’t seen it happen yet. has anyone ever seen a disaster like that happen in person?
@ Storm the beach,
Like I said man, you are naive if you think that this is not a high squat. I do not even need to argue it. I will leave my opinion where it lay.
Also,
Name me one time in life where going deep is a bad thing?
Balls deep in the squat…
Balls deep in the wife…
Point set.
Serious question to Rudy and the others whining about depth: Have you ever been to an SPF meet and seen the lifts in person? I don’t think you can honestly whine about depth until that happens. All the videos are always from the front and you cannot properly make a call from that angle. I have never been to one either, so that is why I am asking. I don’t hear very many people who are actually attending these meets whining about the judging. Its always random internet dudes.
On a side note. I have competed in the USAPL (RAWWWRRRRR). However, I am now currently training with Shawn Frankl (one of the greatest multiply/SPF lifters of all time) for a multiply meet. And he is making me go the same depth that I did when training for the USAPL. Granted, the SPF may not be quite as strict as the USAPL, but I have also heard guys get squats turned down in the USAPL because the judge “shouldn’t have been that close”, even though they were below parallel.
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
I have no issue with gear. I just can’t help but cringe when i’m watching huge lifts like that. I’m always afraid a seam is going to break and then they are going to get crushed… especially on bench. I’ve watched and done more meets than i can remember and haven’t seen it happen yet. has anyone ever seen a disaster like that happen in person?[/quote]
I was a spotter/loader at a meet where around a 700lb bench (I don’t remember exactly) got away from a guy and we just saved it from crushing his face. His wrist and fingers were bent so far backwards that he had an “open dislocation” of one of his fingers. Finger was dislocated and skin broken open, bleeding all over the floor. Like a compound fracture. Dude was tough and barely made a peep.
[quote]Rudy2401 wrote:
Name me one time in life where going deep is a bad thing?
[/quote]
If you only have to go to a certain depth to get white lights (for SPF - hip crease breaks knee), then going any deeper is wasting energy and therefore from a competitive standpoint, a bad thing.
In the SPF meet I lifted at a few weeks ago, the judges were brutal with the multi ply guys, made them break depth clearly.
[quote]
Balls deep in the squat…
Balls deep in the wife…
Point set…[/quote]
…Retard.
[quote]Most Major wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
I have no issue with gear. I just can’t help but cringe when i’m watching huge lifts like that. I’m always afraid a seam is going to break and then they are going to get crushed… especially on bench. I’ve watched and done more meets than i can remember and haven’t seen it happen yet. has anyone ever seen a disaster like that happen in person?[/quote]
I was a spotter/loader at a meet where around a 700lb bench (I don’t remember exactly) got away from a guy and we just saved it from crushing his face. His wrist and fingers were bent so far backwards that he had an “open dislocation” of one of his fingers. Finger was dislocated and skin broken open, bleeding all over the floor. Like a compound fracture. Dude was tough and barely made a peep.[/quote]
that must have been tough to see. i’ve seen some spills where knees have given out or muscles have torn but luckily the weights weren’t so heavy that the spotters couldn’t catch it. i couldn’t imagine trying to catch a 1000lb bench attempt gone bad.
I didn’t read any posts after some dude made reference to depth based on a youtube video…
Donnie Thompson’s 3,000 is insane. Crazy. Nuts. Cooky.
@ Dixie,
It was a joke, calm yourself tough guy. Its the internet, don’t take it so seriously…
Also,
I understand what the rules of the SPF are, I read the book. I posted it here… However, from a front view which really is not the clearest he looks about 2 inches high from PARALLEL. Now, Donnie is a big man so I could honestly just be misjudging the squat all together.
Like I said earlier, still an impressive feat never the less…
[quote]Rudy2401 wrote:
@ Dixie,
It was a joke, calm yourself tough guy. Its the internet, don’t take it so seriously…
Also,
I understand what the rules of the SPF are, I read the book. I posted it here… However, from a front view which really is not the clearest he looks about 2 inches high from PARALLEL. Now, Donnie is a big man so I could honestly just be misjudging the squat all together.
Like I said earlier, still an impressive feat never the less…[/quote]
haha fair enough, I didnt catch the joke, apologies.
There are a lot of guys who say shit like that and arent joking though, so pardon my ignorance.
I admit, it looked suspect, but I also know that from the front angle, it is hard to tell, so I defer to the judges there and say well done Donnie
[quote]Most Major wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
I have no issue with gear. I just can’t help but cringe when i’m watching huge lifts like that. I’m always afraid a seam is going to break and then they are going to get crushed… especially on bench. I’ve watched and done more meets than i can remember and haven’t seen it happen yet. has anyone ever seen a disaster like that happen in person?[/quote]
I was a spotter/loader at a meet where around a 700lb bench (I don’t remember exactly) got away from a guy and we just saved it from crushing his face. His wrist and fingers were bent so far backwards that he had an “open dislocation” of one of his fingers. Finger was dislocated and skin broken open, bleeding all over the floor. Like a compound fracture. Dude was tough and barely made a peep.[/quote]
I saw several like that at the Best of the Best Midwest meet a while ago. Fucking scary. I saw one I think actually touched his neck. That’s a whole new level of risk.
[quote]Rudy2401 wrote:
@ Dixie,
It was a joke, calm yourself tough guy. Its the internet, don’t take it so seriously…
Also,
I understand what the rules of the SPF are, I read the book. I posted it here… However, from a front view which really is not the clearest he looks about 2 inches high from PARALLEL. Now, Donnie is a big man so I could honestly just be misjudging the squat all together.
Like I said earlier, still an impressive feat never the less…[/quote]
2 things:
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Calling a squat from the front is like calling balls and strikes from the first base line. Not a chance it should ever happen. So, while I’ll readily agree that some high squats do get passed in the SPF, and I have an issue with some of the soft handouts, etc., I can’t talk depth on a squat from the front. Having seen a number of meet squats appearing on youtube in person, they were clearly parallel from my side angle, but appeared asininely high from the video. No, not a judge, just a lover of the sport.
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Big guys are retardedly hard to judge due to the extra cushion they carry. This is why I am not a judge. And I don’t doubt that more high squats get passed at superheavy than at lower weight classes simply because of the difficulty in judging a guy with that much pudge. This would be like trying to call balls and strikes for a midget. No matter how good the judge, the difficulties are increased. Now for the others in this thread, I am NOT discounting Donnie’s lift and I’m not calling it high. This is a milestone that I wasn’t sure would be hit…and definitely not this soon. Plus I am looking forward to even more from the big man. However, if anything, this should be an argument for limiting the weight in classes as opposed to calling depth from the front in a youtube video.
Personally i don’t care that much. I couldn’t even support 1200 lbs on my back let alone move with it.
more squatting action!
beef
[quote]bro1989 wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me what is inspiring about this feat?
First of all, every elite powerlifter on this planet is stronger than me. So, no, I cannot do it better than them. But I still have an opinion, and in my opinion there are a lot of things wrong with the sport.
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Equipment should be banned.
I am only interested in what the athlete himself is capable of doing, not whatever assistance gear may help him achieve. -
The ROM needs to be lengthened.
Full squats and full range of motion bench presses should be required to pass.
If you disagree, please explain to me why. I am not trolling or trying to piss anyone off or come accross as disrespectful, it’s simply that I fail to understand what is awesome about equipped 5 inch lifting, provocatively speaking.
Thank you![/quote]
You are literally everything that is wrong with powerlifting. Another zealot that is convinced that his way is how everyone should want to be. Please die in a fire.
People want to see a side video, and I get that, but I’m guessing that a lot of these same people have never been to a bigtime multi-ply meet. Any meet that remotely cares about lifter safety will have 5 spotters (2 each side, one back) on squats over 800 lb, and those spotters are usually large men. It’s hard enough for the judge to see the crease of the hip between the spotters.
I’ve judged in the APF before and I’ve had to move all around to get a clear view of the hip crease and knee at the same time, and that’s with one side spotter. This would be impossible with a stationary camera. This is why you likely won’t see any side videos of huge squats, it’s just not logistically feasible. In addition, he’s over 380 lbs, if you shoot head on from the front, when he’s at parallel, the tops of his thighs will be a good few inches above the hip crease, blocking it from view.
I lifted in an SPF meet with Donnie a few months ago and he got reds for depth on a squat that was a little high. I’ve also sat 2nd row at the Pro-Am back in 2009 and saw some great squats (Frankl and others) that were clearly to depth, then when the videos were posted, they look high. Let’s all worry about improving our own lifts. Donnie squatting big doesn’t invalidate anyone else’s PRs.
SPF is a joke. Any org that passes squats like that should be embarrassed. And, these big name lifters should be embarrassed for seeking out these feds to perform their lifts in. Wear as much gears as you want, take drugs until you glow, I don’t care. But at least perform the lifts as the rules require.
[quote]kakno wrote:
That’s incredible. Really impressive.
FML I don’t even total his squat.[/quote]
Talk about it, I don’t even total his bench. 
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
That’s incredible. Really impressive.
FML I don’t even total his squat.[/quote]
Talk about it, I don’t even total his bench. :P[/quote]
Skip church and get in an extra squat workout on sundays man
[quote]Gaius Octavius wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
That’s incredible. Really impressive.
FML I don’t even total his squat.[/quote]
Talk about it, I don’t even total his bench. :P[/quote]
Skip church and get in an extra squat workout on sundays man[/quote]
lulz
the gear vs raw debate is tired and retarded at this point. but it is still legitimate.
here is an example…
recently, I was moving stuff around in my garage and found an old pair of single ply briefs and some pl knee wraps.
for shit and giggles, i decided to put them on for front squats that day.
I have not used gear in over 5 years.
with belt, wraps and briefs, i hit a 220kg front squat.
at the time, the most I could do with NO gear, was about 150kg.
so, how much can I front squat?
220(very good for my age and weight)
or 150(mediocre at best)???