for you guys with physiological knowledge, what happens to the body to make it puke from exertion? is it that the core temp gets too high, or vo2 max is exceeded or something? i’m an amateur when it comes to exercise science, but i’m always interested to know what’s going on.
i just made a weighted sled, and have been inducing vomiting in myself and friends for a few weeks now. if there are any variables involved, or special mechanisms that make you yak, i’d like to hear all about it.
Prowler Flu.
[quote]get-it-done wrote:
for you guys with physiological knowledge, what happens to the body to make it puke from exertion? is it that the core temp gets too high, or vo2 max is exceeded or something? i’m an amateur when it comes to exercise science, but i’m always interested to know what’s going on.
i just made a weighted sled, and have been inducing vomiting in myself and friends for a few weeks now. if there are any variables involved, or special mechanisms that make you yak, i’d like to hear all about it.[/quote]
Why would you want to make yourself vomit?
What is with all of this BS about people doing prowler sprints and sled drags until they puke? I mean seriously people keep talking about “prowler flu” as if it adds on man-points or something, when in reality it’s probably counter productive to work yourself that hard on a regular basis… But because Dave Tate and crew do it it’s automatically cool…
[quote]mutayshun wrote:
What is with all of this BS about people doing prowler sprints and sled drags until they puke? I mean seriously people keep talking about “prowler flu” as if it adds on man-points or something, when in reality it’s probably counter productive to work yourself that hard on a regular basis… But because Dave Tate and crew do it it’s automatically cool…[/quote]
maybe because if you puke that means youre really putting out on the exercise… or you ate some bad chinese food that day? Either one 
I get the feeling that if Dave Tate said that high rep squats or barbell complexes until you puke were the shit, we’d just be having a ton of people talking about “barbell flu” or whatever instead of prowler flu…
Just because it’s possible to push ones self that hard doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily optimal, especially if it results in puking on a regular basis… Which isn’t to say that every once in awhile it may happen, but going out with that set goal like so many of these guys are doing is just retarded.
Yeah I was curious about this as well. I’ve done some intense HIIT / sprint work before, and got close to puking. However, I always back it off before actually puking. I figured that’s my body’s way of telling me I’m pushing a bit too hard (unless I’ve just slammed down way too much food and not giving myself adequate time to digest before training).
I read some articles about Dave and crew talking about this, and ever since I’ve seen a flurry of discussion about it. Fan boys?
[quote]mutayshun wrote:
What is with all of this BS about people doing prowler sprints and sled drags until they puke? I mean seriously people keep talking about “prowler flu” as if it adds on man-points or something.[/quote]
It does.
It’s cool.
If you don’t like it, don’t worry about it.
Reaching your lactic threshold; or producing > CO2 than amount of O2 than you are conusuming.
I believew that to be the cause. It could be better explained though.
well i guess if you’re using a sled or prowler as a conditioning tool, it’s going to happen because any intense conditioning workout makes you feel like you’re going to puke. one of the differences i noted between rugby union and rugby league is that when playing league, you feel like you’re going to throw up for most of the game.
i was just wondering if there was some sort of physiological mechanism that induces nausea as the result of that sort of activity.
edit: jgerman, that’s the sort of thing i was looking for
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/63-ten-training-myths-exposed.html
People who think puking is a good thing should read #3.
[quote]OBoile wrote:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/63-ten-training-myths-exposed.html
People who think puking is a good thing should read #3.[/quote]
“Puking is one of the most catabolic things you can do to your body. If your goals are increased muscular strength and/or muscular hypertrophy, you should do everything possible not to puke during your training!”
Why is it catabolic though? Is this if you’re actually vomiting up your food, thus reducing the calories digested, and slowing the metabolism or something?
More than likely it’s the act of putting your body under such stress that it involuntarily vomits. If your body is spending all of its recovery energy just trying to get over that stupid last set of prowler runs that ran you into the ground it isn’t going to be able to recover from your regular weight training routines as well… It’s just unnecessary stress.
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/63-ten-training-myths-exposed.html
People who think puking is a good thing should read #3.[/quote]
“Puking is one of the most catabolic things you can do to your body. If your goals are increased muscular strength and/or muscular hypertrophy, you should do everything possible not to puke during your training!”
Why is it catabolic though? Is this if you’re actually vomiting up your food, thus reducing the calories digested, and slowing the metabolism or something?[/quote]
That would be my guess. Especially since it empties your stomach right at the end of your workout when you would normally want to be taking in calories for better recovery.
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/63-ten-training-myths-exposed.html
People who think puking is a good thing should read #3.[/quote]
“Puking is one of the most catabolic things you can do to your body. If your goals are increased muscular strength and/or muscular hypertrophy, you should do everything possible not to puke during your training!”
Why is it catabolic though? Is this if you’re actually vomiting up your food, thus reducing the calories digested, and slowing the metabolism or something?[/quote]
That would be my guess. Especially since it empties your stomach right at the end of your workout when you would normally want to be taking in calories for better recovery.[/quote]
So wouldn’t some solid PWO eats combat this, as after any other strength workout?
Puking is one of the most catabolic things you can do.
Anyone can work to the point of throwing up, but are you making optimal progress while doing so?
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/63-ten-training-myths-exposed.html
People who think puking is a good thing should read #3.[/quote]
“Puking is one of the most catabolic things you can do to your body. If your goals are increased muscular strength and/or muscular hypertrophy, you should do everything possible not to puke during your training!”
Why is it catabolic though? Is this if you’re actually vomiting up your food, thus reducing the calories digested, and slowing the metabolism or something?[/quote]
That would be my guess. Especially since it empties your stomach right at the end of your workout when you would normally want to be taking in calories for better recovery.[/quote]
So wouldn’t some solid PWO eats combat this, as after any other strength workout?[/quote]
No. 1. you just got rid of stuff that was already well into the process of digesting.
2. You most likely won’t be able to keep much food down if you’ve just finished puking.
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/63-ten-training-myths-exposed.html
People who think puking is a good thing should read #3.[/quote]
“Puking is one of the most catabolic things you can do to your body. If your goals are increased muscular strength and/or muscular hypertrophy, you should do everything possible not to puke during your training!”
Why is it catabolic though? Is this if you’re actually vomiting up your food, thus reducing the calories digested, and slowing the metabolism or something?[/quote]
That would be my guess. Especially since it empties your stomach right at the end of your workout when you would normally want to be taking in calories for better recovery.[/quote]
So wouldn’t some solid PWO eats combat this, as after any other strength workout?[/quote]
No. 1. you just got rid of stuff that was already well into the process of digesting.
2. You most likely won’t be able to keep much food down if you’ve just finished puking.[/quote]
you ever been super hammered and puke? I sure as hell can still dominate some 4th meal after that! Puke and Rally!!!
I don’t think the OP ever said he backed up puking. He just wanted to know why the body does force itself to.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/63-ten-training-myths-exposed.html
People who think puking is a good thing should read #3.[/quote]
“Puking is one of the most catabolic things you can do to your body. If your goals are increased muscular strength and/or muscular hypertrophy, you should do everything possible not to puke during your training!”
Why is it catabolic though? Is this if you’re actually vomiting up your food, thus reducing the calories digested, and slowing the metabolism or something?[/quote]
That would be my guess. Especially since it empties your stomach right at the end of your workout when you would normally want to be taking in calories for better recovery.[/quote]
So wouldn’t some solid PWO eats combat this, as after any other strength workout?[/quote]
No. 1. you just got rid of stuff that was already well into the process of digesting.
2. You most likely won’t be able to keep much food down if you’ve just finished puking.[/quote]
you ever been super hammered and puke? I sure as hell can still dominate some 4th meal after that! Puke and Rally!!! [/quote]
Yeah… but usually I don’t get away with puking only once when drinking. 20 minutes later, I’m back praying to the porcelin god.