what are the advantages of pin squats?
[quote]nlmain wrote:
what are the advantages of pin squats? [/quote]
they work you harder out of the hole, eliminating much of the bounce/stretch reflex that many of us rely on to get out of the bottom of a squat. Forces the core to remain super tight and requires more explosive effort to get started from the bottom.
at least that’s what I think and maybe remember for browsing on the internet. goggle “Anderson Squats”. Here is one article I found
thanks dog a good read. The article mentionnes that it could be a good way to practice form for the peeps like me still struggling. Anyone care to speak up on that?
[quote]nlmain wrote:
thanks dog a good read. The article mentionnes that it could be a good way to practice form for the peeps like me still struggling. Anyone care to speak up on that?[/quote]
Depends on how you do them. You can keep form best by descending to the pins and then rising. If you start from the pins it throws form off a little - in my experience. However, you get stronger in the bottom, so it doesn’t seem to hurt the lift all that much overall.
Nice job getting your training in despite interruptions!
The few times I’ve done pin squats (because I don’t have access to a power rack) I found them super, duper hard. I’d love to be able to do them more because getting out of the hole is a big problem for me.
Never done pin or Anderson squats and here’s my completely unscientific reasoning why not. Explosiveness, as developed using plyometrics, is the main ingredient for throwing far. The rebound is one of the key components in plyos. To me the the pin or Anderson’s develope the ability to put out a strong, steady drive but not a fast uncoiling. Different twitch muscles I guess. Ok, that was my 2 cents worth. Leave it to you powerlifters.
[quote]hel320 wrote:
Never done pin or Anderson squats and here’s my completely unscientific reasoning why not. Explosiveness, as developed using plyometrics, is the main ingredient for throwing far. The rebound is one of the key components in plyos. To me the the pin or Anderson’s develope the ability to put out a strong, steady drive but not a fast uncoiling. Different twitch muscles I guess. Ok, that was my 2 cents worth. Leave it to you powerlifters. [/quote]
I have to agree. A big Anderson squat hasn’t ever helped me squat a lighter weight faster or jump higher. That aspect has to be trained on it’s own. They have helped me grind my way out of the bottom of a squat though.
I’ll give them a try and see how they feel. Thanks for the good info everyone.
[quote]nlmain wrote:
thanks dog a good read. The article mentionnes that it could be a good way to practice form for the peeps like me still struggling. Anyone care to speak up on that?[/quote]
I had a somewhat different experience with them. I tried tham and flailed around like I was having a fit, my form was terrible. Of course I could have been doing something wrong.
So pin squats work somewhat differently than a box squat with a full pause at the bottom?
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
So pin squats work somewhat differently than a box squat with a full pause at the bottom?
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in that you completely lose the weight of the bar with a pin squat and cannot do that rocking motion (that I never could get rid of completely) to get started. both still have to start from a dead stop and reduce the stretch reflex.
I was lazy on sunday and didn’t do my deads like I was supposed to and forgot that a psyc appt with my son late this afternoon interfered with today’s training time. So an unintentional mini-break happens, we’ll see about deads tomorrow…
Life interfers sometimes. Extra day of rest will probably help on the deads.
I’m adding pin squats in again too. I haven’t done them in a while but always liked them. I’d always done them from the bottom but I think you end up out of position on them that way. Everyone agrees that they eliminate the stretch reflex. However, I’m thinking of adding them in because for me, they will be at a height where my suit kicks out.
Mr. SD, I can’t understand how you could be too lazy to deadlift. Unthinkable!!
Unplanned days off gives motivation to get back in the weight room and lift harder. At least thats what I tell my delusional self.
9/14/10
Bike 5 min, SLDL dynamic stretch barx20
Deadlies 135x5, 225x5, 315x3, 365x1, 385x1, 405x1, 425x1 (PR +20#s over 8/30/2010)
385x1 x3sets
Either I’m doing something right or I’ve been sandbagging for a while now. I worked up to 405 again and felt good enough to throw another pair of dimes on the bar. 425 went up just about as easily as 405 did 2 weeks ago. Maybe lifting every 3rd or 4th day suits me? But I believe I’ll let this gain consolidate a bit longer than 2 weeks this time because I could feel the lower back starting to round a bit. Working in the 90% range for a while will probably do me good.
That ain’t no max! That bar flew up! Golly you’re getting strong. That’s a huge PR gain.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
That ain’t no max! That bar flew up! Golly you’re getting strong. That’s a huge PR gain.[/quote]
thanks snapper - I bet you say that to all the boys! I just realized that’s a 2xBW lift - another milestone of sorts
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
That ain’t no max! That bar flew up! Golly you’re getting strong. That’s a huge PR gain.[/quote]
X2. 455 is going soon.
Sweet SD. Whatever you are doing, keep it up. 2x BW is a great achievement.
Gunna play hard to catch huh???