Does Body Count Matter?

Politician are all the same tbh, doesn’t matter what party, what country

I wouldn’t be surprised if the rivalry is manufactured. the top republicans and democrats probably all go for drinks together at their Hampton getaways. To be clear, I have no issue with pursuing wealth or with social inequality. I hate the deception and tying in ideology, then using that to drag down others

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I think civilization is built upon the concept of marriage and family. What great civilization didn’t have marriage and a focus on family? Hedonism ends civilizations. I believe marriage strengthens women, not the opposite. Without marriage and family it makes her value become based on value of face and sex. What else would a man want from her?

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Spot on. Monogamous marriage is a key element in Western Civilization. @zecarlo

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Blackrock, vanguard, statestreet are the biggest investors doing this…this is all about making you not own anything

they are all part of the WEF

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Okay, fair enough. I have said over and over again to the girls in my orbit that making up “nice” reasons to turn down guys is actually unkind. “I don’t think we’re a good match,” or even “thank you, but no, I don’t think so.” Say a clear “no!” So I will sort-of agree with you. But is a 19yo girl supposed to tell her classmate “I’m sorry, but you must realize I’m better looking than you. I frankly can do better”? :-/

But here’s something that popped into my head on the way to work yesterday - where are the parents of these BOYS? I will acknowledge that I’m probably a lot of “mom,” but my boys, and the boys I’ve worked with, are given honesty with kindness, the kind @BrickHead is suggesting girls need. We still laugh at my house about the campaign to get my middle son to stop wearing carpenter jeans at like 13. (He may be slightly on the spectrum.) He was dumped by a girl whose family came to the US as refugees from Somalia (interestingly) maybe 2 years ago. Her Muslim family wouldn’t accept him as they began to think about marriage. They were together for 3 years and he was in LOVE. He’s struggling still. We lecture and tease and remind him about things. My husband and I even got permission to take a picture of a bartender we really liked to show him! “Too fat,” and she wasn’t even fat. Just not the girl he couldn’t have. To which we respond, maybe you should have a conversation before deciding?

No son of mine would sit in the basement on his computer, incelling, without immediate and sustained intervention. The same son went to the first day of high school with an epic zit on his nose, which we also still laugh about. We went to the doctor about it! Because warm compresses and gooped-on clearasil didn’t do anything. Like, why are these boys so alone and oblivious to standard successful-person protocol? The zit unfortunately stayed, but that kid never imagined himself alone. The entire family was involved in the crisis.

In the NY Times daily briefing email this morning:

The evidence that smartphones damage children’s mental health has continued to grow in recent years.

Feelings of loneliness and sadness began rising more than a decade ago, around the same time that smartphones and then social media became ubiquitous. The amount of time that teenagers spend socializing in person has declined on the same timeline. So has the number of hours they sleep.

Academic research points in a similar direction. Many studies have found a correlation between the amount of time that teens — especially girls — spend on smartphones and the likelihood that they will be depressed or have low self-esteem. One study last year found a striking relationship between the age at which somebody first owned a smartphone and that person’s mental health as a young adult:

I’ve encountered this research over and over again. I would add that for boys, gaming and porn are similarly insidious. Guys are experiencing ED at what should be their sexual peak.

I loved this! I’ve been a fan of Tim Urban for a long time.

Completely agree with this. Personally, I blame our corrupt political system for not controlling profiteering.

Again, where are the parents of these awkward boys? Why aren’t they more involved? I’m often startled by the frequency of phone calls from my sons when there’s a breakup. Like, didn’t we just talk for an hour yesterday, son in graduate school? Where are the moms and dads of these hurt, isolated boys? Where are the sisters? Because my daughter can butt in to her brothers’ lives like nobody’s business. “Because you’re shallow” has been said by her to the same brother within a couple of months. “I know,” he says.

Exactly.

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:man_shrugging:t2: That has been my question the whole time.

Me & kiddo have had some instructional conversations about how he presents himself, with the theme being “If you want to be taken seriously by others, present yourself in a way that garners respect.”

That covers basic hygene & dress. Shower, comb hair, dress well (well enough) speak clearly and don’t stink.

He caught on pretty quickly, and feels good about himself when he leaves the house.

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This is the second time that the font on this site has gotten me with rn looking like m. I’m here thinking that while respect from gamers might be important, it probably isn’t the gold standard we are looking for.

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Couple you put it back, please, @SkyzykS? I want to respond to it later. We’re getting ready to go hiking now.

Yep! Didn’t realize I did that. I usually just bookmark random posts. :rofl:

Lol

There are two conversations that stand out for me with my sons after reading your post, which happily don’t include the poor beleaguered middle son featured above. One was with my youngest. He was maybe 7 or 8, and started telling whoppers to other kids. I can’t remember how I found out, but I very vividly remember sitting on his bed and telling him it’s super fine to tell stories, but you have to say it’s a story. So you tell the same thing with “wouldn’t it be cool if” and then go right ahead and say you picked up a car. It worked, happily. He just needed help with language. The other talk was with my eldest, who is magically smart. Like, brilliant. Our conversation was about having been given this incredible gift, but which he didn’t earn, so that wasn’t what he should be proud about. It’s what he does with it that’s laudable, i.e. use it for good and then feel proud of that. We were standing in front of the bathtub. One of his brothers must have been in it. In retrospect I may have made a mistake with that one, because he had/has an overdeveloped sense of responsibility. But one does one’s best not to leave their children to flounder around alone, wondering why no one likes them. Or wants to date them. (Isn’t that the kid who lies? Isn’t that the kid who’s always bragging about how smart he is? Isn’t that the smelly kid?)

If you want the respect of the gamers, you gotta know how to earn it, lol.

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That’s definitely something that a man with a small penis would post.

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Might have something to do with how common gay sex was in ancient Greece? IDK, for that the smaller the better? But I guess I am straight, so I am probably wrong (my perception is gay guys on average prefer large).

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Yeah. We’ve had an ongoing dialog about these subjects.

We found out last month that he’s not gifted !!! But is very very close. He has lost patience with other kids in his class, so I explained to him that he gets a lot more out of these lessons than other kids. Some kids don’t get much out of it, some kids do. So since he gets a lot more out of these things (math mostly, but also really strong elsewhere) it would be good of him if he shared it with kids that didn’t get much. I shared with him how I tutored some classmates and it really helped them, and that he could do the same.

So now he has a sense of purpose that he will hopefully benefit from, and it keeps him a little more grounded with the other kids.

On gaming: Funny that came up. He has been designing levels for his Switch that are off the charts! Like they have a really professional layout and flow, and even built in sequences of action that are incredible!

Ok. Enough gloating.

Its a work in progress.

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My youngest is in this boat. He was recognized as smarter than your average bear in Kindergarten and immediately sentenced to collaborative classes for the next six years as he is also a very helpful kid.

When he was tracked into the Honors program in Seventh Grade, the work got a little more difficult for him and he had not developed the study skills to continue excelling at the rate he was accustomed. It was about this time that I read Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck. If you haven’t read it, it is about kids recognized as above intelligence when young and how some of them then fear being discovered as an impostor, recommends focusing on the process and seeing tests and other challenges as an opportunity to learn rather than to fail.

It resonated for me because I had been down a similar path. I focused on rewarding and praising the effort rather than the grades.

He committed to working harder and has excelled ever since.

I am not sure if this is relevant to your situation but wanted to share my experience with the book. I am sure you are familiar with the concept, if not that particular book.

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Interesting. Maybe.

And as proof they use a picture of a statue of an adolescent Jewish boy from the Renaissance.

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Couldn’t tell you. I just find the correlation between the meme and comments defending insecurity over female sexuality funny.

Well FWIW, I don’t think women on average prefer what men think they do regarding male members. I think in general men care more about it than women do. Porn depicting women going crazy about above average guys probably has something to do with it. Of course, some women (size queens) do really like it, but I think that is more niche than mainstream. There is a confidence that comes with being extraordinary though, and that is attractive to most women.

Probably true. It was a tongue in cheek post.